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ossipena 2010-05-05 04:02
[ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Remember that extras-devel can be evil!!!!
I have ran the app with my device for long but I can't guarantee that it wont behave nasty. If you hesitate, please wait at least a version that has been more thoroughly tested.

First of all thanks to all the contributors with this. (MohammadAG, qwerty12, aspidites, and everyone who has contributed code, feature requests,...)

development thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=643856

the name of the game is portrait SMS.
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1273005732

This thread is dedicated for common chatter, sharing ideas etc

I am working on wiki page and try to make it so that the status can be seen at the front page easily without reading the thread through

http://wiki.maemo.org/VertSMS

Package can be found at extras-devel.
http://maemo.org/packages/view/vertsms/

and bugs + feature requests go to bugzilla
reports already added:
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?q...rtSMS&content=
add a new report:
https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=VertSMS


don't be too critical about what to report as a bug/feature request. if something doesn't work the way you want just create a bug report. after the bugreport is created, everyone who agrees can vote it.

I am not developing this to myself anymore(but this is excellent escape for my thoughts from bearings, fits, lining, tolerances, technical drawings...) : version 0.3 covers my needs about 100% but the moment you say "I am satisfied", wheels stop spinning completely. So please give me your opinions how to improve the app.

joshv06 2010-05-05 04:02
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Thank you!!

Tiboric 2010-05-05 04:18
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Yes a big thank you... now if only i had someone to txt. :D

mobiledivide 2010-05-05 04:37
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Thanks for this great application, who needs Nokia when we have frals and ossipena. I already used this about 10 minutes ago when I was cooking and had to send a text.

[Feature Request]

Is it possible to have a mini-qwerty keyboard as an alternate input method that is still 'thumbable'. I am terrible with triple tapping and I feel the screen size is definitely big enough to support it.

Once again thank you for this great application I look forward to testing and using it.

ppriyank 2010-05-05 04:47
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
thanks for the app...just got it...will try it out

F2thaK 2010-05-05 04:48
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
any possiblility for predictive txt?? THANKS !!!!!!!!!

d/l'ding NOW

NokTokDaddy 2010-05-05 04:48
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Thanks to all!

This is one of the reasons to stay with N900, and the best hope for its enduring future - truly independent development.

Good to see something 100% positive on Maemo.org!

F2thaK 2010-05-05 04:51
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
when i press in "type msg here" spot, virtual kb comes up, annoying!

ppriyank 2010-05-05 04:55
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
IDK if i can make a request or not...but i will throw it out there...
1.) is there a way to hold down the back space and it delets multiple letters instead of me tapping backspace many times?
2.) is there a way to highlight a word/sentance could be used for copy/paste or just delete the highlighted part.
3.) say if you had to type the word "back" is there a arrow key to press so i dont have to wait for a second or two to type the next letter via the same key?

Thank You...really like the app. i was just wondering if the ABOVE were possible? :)

Dr. P!


P.S. when i type a word (i'll just give an example) say typing the letter "back" i make an error and type "ba2k" now instead of deleting both the letter K and the number 2, if i just touch after the number 2 (so i can only delete 2) it automatically goes to the end of the message and delets the last typed input!

stew-b 2010-05-05 05:00
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
downloaded it and pretty nice.few points-virtual keyboard as mentioned is annoying..kind of half expected that when i was in normal conversations and turned the phone it would then automatically swap to vertsms rather than having to open up the application seperately and when i sent a msg there is no record of it,i expected it to appear in the current conversation for that contact?
but great start,well done!!

navsin 2010-05-05 05:50
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Really a nice start guys.... i just tested it and it seems to work well. my suggestions would be:

1) when the msg is sent, a notification says 'sending text to number'. there's no notification for sucess of sending. that needs to be there as user has no clue bout the success/failure. it could be a yellow notification script or if it's integrated to conversations, that should take care of this. or the app could close once the text is gone.

2) predictive text would be nice to have

3) touching the text area makes the qwerty keyboard pop up. it should not happen.

4) Minor - address area just shows the number and not the contact name.

that's all i could think of as of now.

thanks once again!

jayhule 2010-05-05 06:01
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
great work!

would like to see the send button on top of the text box next to "to" or somewhere. having send where it is now just makes me nervous. is that possible or what do you all think?

this way there is no accidental sending and more room for a shift button maybe

qwerty12 2010-05-05 06:23
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Code:
--- vertsms.py.1        2010-05-04 21:30:01.000000000 +0100
+++ vertsms.py        2010-05-05 07:19:03.000000000 +0100
@@ -149,6 +149,11 @@
    def pygobject_new(self, addr):
        return self._api.newgobj(addr)
 
+def disable_osk(widget):
+    input_mode = widget.get_property("hildon-input-mode")
+    input_mode = input_mode | gtk.HILDON_GTK_INPUT_MODE_NO_SCREEN_PLUGINS
+    widget.set_property("hildon-input-mode", input_mode)
+
 window = hildon.Window()
 window.set_title("VertSMS")
 hildon.hildon_gtk_window_set_portrait_flags(window,hildon.PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT | hildon.PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST)
@@ -156,10 +161,12 @@
 #receiver = hildon.Entry(gtk.HILDON_SIZE_AUTO_WIDTH |
 #                          gtk.HILDON_SIZE_THUMB_HEIGHT)
 receiver.set_placeholder("To")
+disable_osk(receiver)
 message = hildon.TextView()
 message.set_wrap_mode(gtk.WRAP_WORD)
 message.set_placeholder("Write your message here")
 message.set_cursor_visible(True)
+disable_osk(message)
 buffer = message.get_buffer()
 buffer_receiver = receiver.get_buffer()
^ simple patch to stop the OSK from popping up. Oh, I tested that under the PR 1.2 leak; I hear HILDON_GTK_INPUT_MODE_NO_SCREEN_PLUGINS may not do anything in PR 1.1.

As for "UI of send -button must be improved in order to stop accidental sending", I guess you could bring up a confirmation message (à la Hildon.Note) or you can enable tap-and-hold on the widget which'll only send if you... wait for it... tap and hold on the widget.

Astute 2010-05-05 06:24
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
One very usefull handy application. Just downloaded before work and works fine.

Its appreciated as being a simple vertical application but some notes:

Predictive text desired.

Qwerty keyboard pops up on initial text entry.

Delivery report desired.

App works sending new messages but not when repling via conversation. Possible partial or full integration with Conversations possible ?

Other than that is very handy as it is and already alongside conversations on my desktop.


A big thanks Oss.

saxen 2010-05-05 06:33
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
it a great start!!
as other said virtual keyboard is really annoying :(

also i think it should prompt some pop-up and reset text and number field once message is sent ;)

anapospastos 2010-05-05 06:44
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Thank you. Great start:)

cloudstrife1ph 2010-05-05 07:11
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
i'll wait a bit longer for a better update but kudos to you for creating something for portrait mode. landscape is ok but an option for portrait support is welcome....

i'm not sure which layout is better between the 5800 or x6 but getting some ideas there to make the app more nokia-ish doesn't hurt. i hope there's an option for a qwerty and the traditional alphanumeric layout...

ossipena 2010-05-05 07:16
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ppriyank (Post 643903)
IDK if i can make a request or not...but i will throw it out there...
1.) is there a way to hold down the back space and it delets multiple letters instead of me tapping backspace many times?
2.) is there a way to highlight a word/sentance could be used for copy/paste or just delete the highlighted part.
3.) say if you had to type the word "back" is there a arrow key to press so i dont have to wait for a second or two to type the next letter via the same key?

Thank You...really like the app. i was just wondering if the ABOVE were possible? :)

Dr. P!


P.S. when i type a word (i'll just give an example) say typing the letter "back" i make an error and type "ba2k" now instead of deleting both the letter K and the number 2, if i just touch after the number 2 (so i can only delete 2) it automatically goes to the end of the message and delets the last typed input!
improving backspace is in todo-list. now it only deletes the last character at textbox

arrows will be added as soon as I improve the text input part and backspace improvements.

I'll have to look into higlighting words etc.

this is glued on top of os so virtual keyboard is a problem. hope I can find a solution to that. for now disabling vkb is the only solution..

no T9 coming by me (there is so much other things to do) but the source is out there for anyone to hop in, just like aspidites did and with his help this is out now, not in july.

and I have a vision that there should be multiple layouts for the keypad. and if that is doable, qwerty keys will be there too as an option.

there is no way I am aware of this could be integrated to conversations unless nokia implements it. conversations is web browser running pages inside device (and completely closed?), my app is python gtk application.

leviathan18 2010-05-05 07:21
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
excellent work

my idea for the perfect keyboard is the ones like the BB pearl where one key holds 2 letters of the qwerty keyboard.

less space than full qwerty but better than numerical

navsin 2010-05-05 07:25
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
an important functionality that could be added is sending texts to multiple recipients.....

saxen 2010-05-05 08:29
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
about integration with conversations, there is a way to import sms(retro conversation is based on it), so that could be a solution...automatically import sms once it has been sent?!

aspidites 2010-05-05 08:29
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by navsin (Post 644051)
an important functionality that could be added is sending texts to multiple recipients.....
Technically just a few lines of code to implement. In fact, I have done so, as witnessed by the screenshot below (Which is NOT a mock-up).

The problem is that a lot of horizontal space is wasted using the built in dialog, so names are unreadable.

I would suggest subclassing it and just rearranging things, but the dialog is created via a static method. As such, to get something usable, I think this would require a custom contacts dialog. If I'm right, I imagine this feature will be put on the back burner. Then again, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed...

[edit]
I guess we could manipulate the created dialog...dunno...I need to sleep

slender 2010-05-05 08:38
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 644125)
Technically just a few lines of code to implement. In fact, I have done so, as witnessed by the screenshot below (Which is NOT a mock-up).

The problem is that a lot of horizontal space is wasted using the built in dialog, so names are unreadable.
So vertical splitting is easy but horizontal splitting needs rewrite of whole contacts module. Did I miss something or is coding really that hard :D

gibsonus 2010-05-05 09:12
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
i like this :)

i can't input a number to send to without the virtual kb comoimg up in landscape.

it says sent message but it didn't get there on my first test. Predictive texr would be great.

It's looking great so far.

ossipena 2010-05-05 09:27
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saxen (Post 644124)
about integration with conversations, there is a way to import sms(retro conversation is based on it), so that could be a solution...automatically import sms once it has been sent?!
could you give me more information?

I have already a small code snippet that reads all the messages from el.db so I basically know what to write there but I am still gathering courage for it and start testing tonight.

casper27 2010-05-05 10:05
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
downloaded from both Garage and extras-devel but application just crashes straight away. Can't seem to get it started from xterm to see output. Anyone else having same problem?

madnes 2010-05-05 10:15
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Test it a bit.
Sending works good.
No crashes yet.
Some sort of artifact appears when you return from the normal v. keyboard but nothing important.

PR 1.1.1 if it matters.

ossipena 2010-05-05 10:32
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by madnes (Post 644324)
Test it a bit.
Sending works good.
No crashes yet.
Some sort of artifact appears when you return from the normal v. keyboard but nothing important.

PR 1.1.1 if it matters.
I am disabling the virtual keyboard as qwerty12 instructed. so the artifact shouldn't be a problem in the future.

e: I am investigating the crashing. probably missing dependencies.

ossipena 2010-05-05 10:56
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 644296)
downloaded from both Garage and extras-devel but application just crashes straight away. Can't seem to get it started from xterm to see output. Anyone else having same problem?
try launching the app by:

Code:
python /opt/vertsms/vertsms.pyc
from command line.

oxpo 2010-05-05 11:13
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
I don't know if this is something local for Telia, Sweden, but I can't send to contacts in the adress book, if the number is stored as international (+4670... for Sweden). It said "Sending to 004670...." but nothing came through (I sent to myself)
When I changed to a local number (070....) I could send.

/oxpo

troff76 2010-05-05 12:27
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oxpo (Post 644415)
I don't know if this is something local for Telia, Sweden, but I can't send to contacts in the adress book, if the number is stored as international (+4670... for Sweden). It said "Sending to 004670...." but nothing came through (I sent to myself)
When I changed to a local number (070....) I could send.

/oxpo
I have exactly the same issue in Cyprus, using Cytamobile-Vodafone.

I can only send SMS to contacts who don't have the International code included in their number. Unfortunately 95% of my contacts are stored with the international code in order to call them when I am abroad, so I can't use VertSMS yet.

So, is it a provider issue?

However, you are doing a great job! It's one of the first things I wanted eversince I got my N900 and I guess it won't be hard for you guys to fix this bug. Thanks

brera 2010-05-05 12:30
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
for me sending not working for any of number in my contact list, i try 0038598xxxxxx or +38598xxxxxx but after sending message receive a sms from my operator t-mobile that i send a sms to number that can received sms and wrote a number +38598xxxxxx1 which i am not type to send sms, only +38598xxxxxx...

casper27 2010-05-05 12:33
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 644391)
try launching the app by:

Code:
python /opt/vertsms/vertsms.pyc
from command line.
Heres the ouput

~ $ python /opt/vertsms/vertsms.pyc
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "src/vertsms.py", line 11, in <module>
ImportError: No module named dbus


Mmm very strange.

ossipena 2010-05-05 12:40
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 644434)
Heres the ouput

~ $ python /opt/vertsms/vertsms.pyc
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "src/vertsms.py", line 11, in <module>
ImportError: No module named dbus


Mmm very strange.
try

Code:
apt-get install python-dbus
as root.

note to self: add that to dependencies

MohammadAG 2010-05-05 12:43
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 644439)
try

Code:
apt-get install python-dbus
as root.

note to self: add that to dependencies
Note to self: added.

Edit: sent to devel as v0.1-1, since it blocks installations. Doesn't need a whole version bump for a changed control file.

ossipena 2010-05-05 12:45
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by troff76 (Post 644426)
So, is it a provider issue?
it probably is. I've had reports that non-international numbers only work and international numbers only work from two different providers. shame that those can conflict, it would have been easier to fix if one case works for everyone.

hey nokia, could someone spare a tip with this issue? how is it implemented in os?

with saunalahti finland both ways work.

troff76 2010-05-05 12:46
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Messages sent via VertSMS do not appear in Conversations.
Could that be fixed?

NokiaRocks 2010-05-05 12:47
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Looks good.
But how i can write capital letters ? Or am I just blind ? xD

saxen 2010-05-05 12:50
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 644192)
could you give me more information?

I have already a small code snippet that reads all the messages from el.db so I basically know what to write there but I am still gathering courage for it and start testing tonight.

something like this?!
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37354

:confused:

ZogG 2010-05-05 13:12
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
is the original nokia conversation is closed - it would be nice to build in this into it.

also is it possible to make long touch press - as you press button for a long pressing it became number and backspace for multiply use. thank you again


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