Maemo Mapper Repositories
 

Due to the growing number of map repositories that are compatible with Maemo Mapper, I decided to create a thread that would aggregate them and keep them up-to-date.

To use one, tap-and-hold on the link and copy the link address to the clipboard, then paste it into Maemo Mapper. Many of these repositories are also available by simply selecting the "Download..." button in the "Manage Repositories" dialog box in Maemo Mapper itself.

The following is a set of working repositories that you can use for Maemo Mapper:

Google Maps (street)
http://mt.google.com/mt?x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d

Google Maps (street) (alternative)
http://mt.google.com/mt?v=ap.999&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d

Google Maps (satellite)
http://khm1.google.com/kh/v=&hl=en&x=%d&y=%d&z=%d

Google Maps (terrain)
http://mt.google.com/mt?v=w2p.92&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d

Virtual Earth (street)
http://r0.ortho.tiles.virtualearth.n.../r%0s.png?g=45

Virtual Earth (satellite)
http://a0.ortho.tiles.virtualearth.n...a%0s.jpeg?g=50

Virtual Earth (hybrid)
http://h0.ortho.tiles.virtualearth.n...h%0s.jpeg?g=50

Yahoo Maps (street)
http://us.maps1.yimg.com/us.tile.map...=%d&y=%-d&z=%d

Yahoo Maps (satellite)
http://us.maps3.yimg.com/aerial.maps...=%d&y=%-d&z=%d

OpenStreetMap - Traditional "Mapnik"
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%0d/%d/%d.png

OpenStreetMap - Developmental "Osmarender"
http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/%0d/%d/%d.png

Terraserver USA (WMS)
http://www.terraserver-usa.com/ogcma...PTIONS=INIMAGE
(Note: WMS URL formats requires the installation of proj.)

RunwayFinder.com
http://www.runwayfinder.com/charts/x%dy%dz%d.jpg
(Note: WMS URL formats requires the installation of proj.)
(Thanks, gregrenda.)

viajoasi.com.ar (WMS)
http://viajoasi.com.ar/c.php?VERSION...PTIONS=INIMAGE
(Note: WMS URL formats requires the installation of proj.)


Layers
These repositories contain transparency and are thus ideal for use as layers on top of the above repositories.

Google Traffic
http://mt.google.com/mapstt?zoom=%0d&x=%d&y=%d

Google Labels
http://mt.google.com/mt?v=w2t.999&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d
(use with Google Satellite or Google Terrain for labels for cities, roads, etc., i.e. "Hybrid" maps.)

U.S. Weather Overlay (WMS)
http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi...ANSPARENT=TRUE

Legal: These repositories are for demonstration purposes only. Please use them at your own risk, since their use may be restricted or even illegal for use with Maemo Mapper. I cannot be held responsible for anyone's use of these URL formats.

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P.S. As soon as I can figure out MIME on the 770/N800, I will release a version of Maemo Mapper that will allow you to click on a link to set up a repository, so you don't have to copy/paste the URLs. Kinda like the .install files for the 770/N800's Application Manager. When that feature is added, I will add links to the above post to allow you to do that.

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Another useful repository for pilots that serves aviation charts:

http://www.runwayfinder.com/charts/x%dy%dz%d.jpg

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What is meant by this: "(Note: WMS URL formats requires the installation of proj.)"
What is 'proj' and how is it installed?
Neil

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"proj" stands for "projection" and it is a command-line application that Maemo Mapper uses when it needs to transform from one projection to another. It is only needed for WMS repositories (like the Terraserver one), because they use a different projection from the others.

You can install the proj package from the same repository from which you installed Maemo Mapper. Here is a link that will install it:

http://www.gnuite.com/nokia770/proj.install

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1) What do I use in place of the "..." in the above URL's? If I leave the "...", I get an error message in mapper.

2) Will I get the same Route, regardless of the map url I use?

Thank you!

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The "..." is just a side effect of the forum's display of URL links. Just tap-and-hold a URL and copy the URL to the clipboard. Then paste into Maemo Mapper.

Yes; the downloaded route is dependent on the URL listed at the top of the "Download Route" dialog box. (It is usually never changed.)

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I realised that I should have posted that here. Anyone any idea whether a URL can be deciphered from the above for Michelin Maps? - they have good coverage of Europe....

Ta.

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Not without making modifications to Maemo Mapper. I investigated ViaMichelin's website, and its PNG files are accessed using complex, encoded URLs that look something like this:

http://m1.viamichelin.com/mapsgene/dm/mapdirect
;d29yXzAwMjRt;MDAwMDAwMDAxMjAwMDAwMDAwMTA=

The part after the semicolon presumably identifies a bitmap (254x254 pixels, which is weird). Now, the website uses javascript, and although it's heavily obfuscated, in theory the algorithm for generating one of those identifiers is buried somewhere in that javascript code. The same algorithm could be used in Maemo Mapper to translate between lat/lon and ViaMichelin's codified ID, but I'm not really motivated enough to sift through the mounds of javascript.

By the way, if you ever come across an online map that you'd like to use in Maemo Mapper, I am always open to the possibility of adding new types of URLs. All you need to give me is an easy way to map a Maemo Mapper coordinate (x, y, zoom) into the URL. Most URLs have their own quirky style of encoding, some of them more obfuscated than others. For example, Google Maps Satellite uses a qrst-encoded quadtree URL, whereas Virtual Earth uses a 0123-encoded quadtree URL, so the code in Maemo Mapper to handle each is similar, just tweaked slightly for each source.

Firefox has this great utility for spying on exactly what images a website pulls in. For example, go to Google Maps and use the "Tools | Page Info" menu item in Firefox. The "Media" tab contains a list of all media pulled in by the page, including images. In the case of Google Maps, there are a bunch of "mt1.google.com"-style URLs that reveal exactly the URL format that Google Maps uses to retrieve its bitmaps. This is how Maemo Mapper first came into being.

Back in the olden days, MapQuest didn't even have an AJAX-ified website, so you couldn't use the "Page Info" trick used for Google Maps. Nowadays, however, MapQuest uses a completely different URL format. When you use Firefox's Page Info tool, you see a bunch of URLs like "http://tile3.mqcdn.com/map/Scale29337258/0/5/0/2.gif", where "ScaleXXXXX" maps somewhat to Google Maps's "zoom=" variable, and the "5" and "2" map to the X and Y coordinates of the map.

So, it might be possible to write an algorithm that translates "5, 2, 29337258" into Maemo Mapper's "x, y, zoom" format. Unfortunately, I think MapQuest uses a projection other than Mercator, and the scales don't cleanly match between Mercator and MapQuest, which makes it difficult, perhaps even impossible, to use in Maemo Mapper. It just takes some investigation...

P.S. kempja: would you mind removing the "script" code from your post, or at least break it up into smaller lines? It causes the page to render poorly in most browsers.

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HI Gnuite,

Would it be possible to use the Mapquest "Routing File" in mapper?

The reason I ask is that I have done some routes in mapper (same as Google Earth) and Mapquest.
"For me", the Mapquest routes are much better.
One of the routes I did in Mapquest is the actual route I take to pick up my grandchildren from school.:) Again, I stress "for me".

Thank you!

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How about this one that even seems to have a developer api available?

http://devnet.map24.com/

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joeo, I couldn't agree with you more. I too prefer Mapquest's routing algorithm to Google's, although I prefer Google's interface. If I could parse Mapquest's directions HTML page into a GPX file, trust me, I would, but I haven't found a way to do so.

The route points themselves may be somewhere in the javascript, but Mapquest seems to have done a very good job of hiding them, plus there doesn't seem to be much connection between the route points and the direction information (e.g. "Turn Right at ..."), so even if I could find the route points, there wouldn't be any waypoints.

Google Maps's maps, on the other hand, are much more easily parseable.

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Have cleared it up; is that any better?

Thanks for the tip about Firefox; I am now using it to investigate another new map server over France, serving IGN Maps.

I have just about finished the cmd scripts that read the xml file from MapCruncher, available herehttp://research.microsoft.com/mapcruncher/, even for big (50 x 50 km), overcoming a max xml file size of ~100 lines - it extends the quadtree to the max zoom level crunched. I just need to join the scripts together and write some instructions. The results are as almost as accurate as the VE tiles on which they were 'pinned' ~ +/- 5m at 1:25k, showing no discernible stretch to go form UTM to VE's TM projection (although I can reproject using another programme - it's just a pain)

I will make this available after the w/e, if anyone is interested.:D

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HI Gnuite,

Thank you for the reply and for all your help!

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Could you help me in defining the repository information for the following map site:
http://www.freemap.co.il/map/

Using the above-mentioned "trick" it seems that the tile URL's are pretty straightforward:
For example:
http://www.freemap.co.il/map/tile.ph...&g=all&i=png24

Thanks

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First, thanks Gnuite for a great program.

I ran across this mapping site today, and it looks like they use an easily-parseable URL format, but I'm not sure about the actual body of the page - there's a fair amount of javascript, but it doesn't look too complex.

EDIT: There's a link at the top left of the page that takes you to the "Old Site" or "New Site". My comments above are for the "New Site", but the old one might be easier to parse.

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Can you print on the M800? Thanks in advance, Derrick

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Gnuite, I too have had a look at this site - Multimap.com. The new site is working on 256x256 tiles and they are mercator projected, like VE and GE. Additionally they have UK topo 50k maps (similar to USGS ones availble from Terraserver); most useful for hiking etc.

The urls, from Firefox, of the image tiles are thus -

http://mc0.multimap.com/ptiles/map/m...vice_seq=14458 for Topo

http://mc3.multimap.com/ptiles/map/m...vice_seq=14458 for route/street maps

They seem to be some sort of quadtree, but referenced from bottom left rather than top left. "13" is the zoom level, with map type being the "mi8**".

Any ideas for a URL to go into MM?

Cheers
Kempja

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First of all I have to admit that for the past few months I did not really think MM would live up (for me) to the hype it generated in other parts of ITT (and other sites) -- mainly because no maps cover the area where I live in any detail. Plus, I don't have a bluetooth GPS. However, yesterday I downloaded it and spent more time playing with MM than I should have (I am currently during my "exam season" at University :))
In any case, I have two small quibbles:
- Most of the time, when I fire up the "Manage Map Repositories" dialog, I find that my list of repositories has been doubled (e.g.: Rep A, Rep B -> Rep A, Rep B, Rep A, Rep B). This behaviour is consistent and seems to happen every time except for the first time I fire up this dialog in a MM session. If I click cancel, the doubled list is not saved.
- Google satellite repository stopped working about 5 minutes ago :( What is happening is that it either leves a black space or uses the Google street JPEG's. Yes, the maps are downloaded in different directories :) This happened after I played around with the repository settings ("Download Zoom Steps" and "View Zoom Steps") a bit. MM does not complain about the maps not downloading or anything. Weird.
- I will be going abroad in a few weeks and would like to make decent use of MM. Is there an easy way of downloading all the JPEG's, at particular zoom levels, for an entire selected area? Or do I have to stay going around the whole area at every zoom level?

Thanks for any replies!

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I've never seen this behavior - you're not pushing the "Download..." button, I presume...

Did the dialog always behave this way, or did it happen after a certain (or uncertain?) event? If the latter, I would try using the "Reset..." button in the dialog and/or gconftool-2 to clear all of your Maemo Mapper settings.. (If the dialog has always duplicated, then this won't have any effect.)

Weird indeed. Did your repo settings get changed during one of the duplication bouts you mentioned earlier? Are you able to fix the problem by tweaking the repo's settings?

Check your repo directory and see if you can find any text files instead of JPEG files. They won't have a text-file extension, so they may be difficult to find. If you know how to use grep, then you can grep the files for the string "<html>". If you find any, the error message contained therein may give a clue to why the repo is messed up. Some users have done this and found error messages indicating that Google has detected them as a "bot" or spammer, in which case Google might have started denying you satellite images. (I don't think this has ever happened with Google's street maps, and I also don't think that the Satellite repo has ever returned Street maps before.)

Use the "Manage Maps" dialog, which allows you to download or delete maps for your current repository. See the Help file for more details.

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It always happened (and always did) on the second and every following time the dialog pops up. No repo settings seemed to have change, and I can't seem to change this. I'll try the grep thing tho.

Thanks :D

*edit*

The files are empty!

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Convulted said,
"- Most of the time, when I fire up the "Manage Map Repositories" dialog, I find that my list of repositories has been doubled (e.g.: Rep A, Rep B -> Rep A, Rep B, Rep A, Rep B). This behaviour is consistent and seems to happen every time except for the first time I fire up this dialog in a MM session. If I click cancel, the doubled list is not saved."

Suddenly, out of nowhere, I am getting the same behavior with MM. When I go to "maps", I now have two Google Streets and two Google Satellites listed. I don't know how it happened. I hadn't used MM for several days and when I used it today, that's when I noticed the doubled map sets.

???

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I am experiencing the doubling of my map repository listings as well. I am using the latest version of MM from the garage.

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This is one of my favorite map sites:

NLS topographic maps covering all Finnish regions are available at Citizen's MapSite. This service is universally accessible and free of charge.

URLS look like these:
http://kansalaisen.karttapaikka.fi/k...urenna&lang=FI
http://kansalaisen.karttapaikka.fi/k...urenna&lang=FI

Are they gettable I wonder? I've been ripping them manually and stitching them together for my forest trips. Very nice with a very accurate map.

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This happens when you open the dialog box to choose the default maps after setting up the program. Essentially you are doing it twice. At least that is what happened to me. Simply delete the extra repositories.

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It happens whenever I go to edit, _not add_, reps.

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Got it. Problem reproduced and bug identified; fix forthcoming.

In the meantime, there are two workarounds: restart Maemo Mapper, or delete the duplicate repository entries.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Fixed and released in Maemo Mapper v1.4.6. See the release announcement post.

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Great work! Both issues are fixed. Hope I don't get the Google satellite thing again :)

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This latest version fixed the doubling repositories issue for me as well.

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Damn. Google satellite stopped working again! I'll try to investigate, but all I know thus far is:
(i) I would be browsing Google satellite maps when suddenly the images stop downloading (but MM does not complain)
(ii) The downloaded images are 0 bytes in size.

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I am having problems with Google's satellite imagery as well. Google streets still works fine. Have they changed their URL structure or implemented some check to keep people from pulling down the data?

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Do you have answer to your question? I need also map of Israel. Thanks

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Gnuite,

Take a look at this French website; the tiles appear to be organized in Mercator Lat/Lon, but with an alpha-numeric referencing system. The Topo maps and imagery are top notch though.

http://www.geoportail.fr/visu2D.do?ter=metropole

Image tiles are like this:
http://visu-2d.geoportail.fr/geoweb/maps8u6m2GpH0.jpg

Also found this http://thepochisuperstarmegashow.com...cts/#geopochi2 a tool that reads the tile into GEarth; would it be of any help, since this guy has cracked the tile naming convention?

Cheers

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How to add personal jpeg map files, especially how to divide it to specific coordinaties.
Like I have a big jpeg file , I have some point whose I konw the coordinaties, how to adjust and divide for specific zooms, specific size,... for maemo mapper???

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Try MSR MapCruncher program here http://research.microsoft.com/mapcruncher/

but you will have to rename the tiles; I have written a script but can't upload it ion here.

Kempja

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Is anyone get this site work with maemo mapper, or is it even possible?

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The finnish NLS topo maps at kansalaisen.karttapaikka.fi use finnish KKJ coordinate system, so MaemoMaper would have to do on-the-fly warping of the tiles. Perhaps MapCruncher is the way. Here is quite detailed description of the KKJ coords (you can extract also some conversion code): http://www.viestikallio.fi/tools/kkj-wgs84.php#KKJ-PI
BTW, stitching can be automated by e.g. montage utility from the ImageMagick suite.

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I have been download and install "map cruncher" program and sucessfully create map with that.
It makes 3 folders and 3 files.
<DIR> Layer_Newlayer
<DIR> Legends
<DIR> SourceData
<FILE> MapLayers.crunched.xml
<FILE> SampleKey.html
<FILE> SamplePage.html

How-to make files (directory structure and filenames) Maemo mapper compatible.

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A part of answer is :
For reference, Maemo Mapper uses the exact same tile structure as Google Maps. The directory structure itself is defined as "map_cache_dir/zoom/x/y.jpg". For example, file "map_cache_dir/12/5/10.jpg" maps to "http://mt.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.999&x=5&y=10&zoom=12". So if you can figure that out, then you can produce maps that will work in Maemo Mapper.
By the way, Maemo Mapper also supports PNG, or any other format that is recognizable by gdk_pixbuf. The names of the files must have the .jpg extension ...

I hope it'll help you.
If you find a solution, please help me.