Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Have you seen this?

I know many ppl jumping string to TALK.

My 2 cents?

YES!

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Yes... a lot of us have seen this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=4266

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Well better late and working, than early and not working. Since many people are using the N900 as their main phone, I dont see why they should release a buggy firmware update that is not tested.

"I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience. Hmm. Much anger in him, like his father." - Yoda

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Sorry but I am not looking at Chuck Norris threads.
It went to far to be funny and to take it seriously IMO.

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actually it isn't late because there is no deadline. delayed is probably better adjective

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WAIT. then why does hong-kong have PR1.2 and we don't?? isnt it ready because hong-kong have it?? why delay the rest of the world????????????


that is BS. i want nokia to answer that. If PR1.2 is out in hong-kong why is there still a delay?????




ps: im not trolling. just saying i hate people who beat around the bush. i can deal with waiting but on with a straight answer not BS or just say nothing.

yesterday i went to a chicken shop which said take away only. a couple behind me ordered and got a seat????? double standards

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

They didn't want the UK to feel left out this time, of course.

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If even it's true that leaked 1.2 is what we expected explanation about poor Flash performance it's good enough for me. Because indeed it's very bad with leaked version.

My whole point is they should keep us informed.

Bad news is always worst than any news at all.

I would like to know yet, what About Flash 10.1.
Give me good explanation Nokia please, even if this is bad news.
Then I can really compare to what I heard 7months ago and get my conclusion.

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when announcing MeeGo they said that if you're a developer looking into meego, then you should get an N900 and code with Qt.

now they released the "Nokia Qt SDK" wich has a simulator and even deploys on Symbian devices, but not on M900 (not without PR1.2).

are we (developers) expected to go to HK and get a unit there?

they gotta release it soon. they are holding development for their platform(s), not only bugfixes for their users.

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lol just wait for it :D i want it too be a stable build

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If you were running development at nokia, would you release a buggy update for the world?

However, if you had committed to a launch date for the device in a country where PR1.1 doesn't support their local language, you would be willing to do a limited pre release of the PR1.2 software to these users, better than miss a launch date.

We however have our devices, lets wait patiently, if we give them enough time, and it is us shouting via the press that pressurises them into releasing buggy software, they could well deliver a really excellent stable and fast release this time

:)

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Public unstable branch with nightly builds would've fixed most of QQ on the forums.

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Give them respect too, they've created the most exciting mobile device I've ever seen - and I have played with a lot of them....

Given time to do their job, the N900 could still be an iPhone(and ipad) competitor in the bigger marketplace, I would so love to see it become the standard personal computing device.

I'm not someone who will naturally favour any vendor, but everything the n95 had in features got upstaged by the gui, screen size and touchscreen of the iphone, now we're using something that has the flexibility and power to put the iphone to shame in every respect other than app availability.

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Thats a very good suggestion, but it would have to be kept securely away from noobs who may find random issues distressing.

Nokia, don't fancy extending your firmware testing into the community do you?

Would save you money and enable us people to iron out every ghost left in the system.

Anyone got a direct link into Nokia to suggest this?

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One more time:
IF "Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late" is the answer to our long-waiting release...
WHY Honk Kong has it?
HOW can Nokia release so buggy software for Chinese?

IF NOT, again, why we doesn't have pr1.2?

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Probably Chinese developers are better then guys who work in Finland ? :) seriously I think there are problems with crappy and lazy developers. I recall couple of days ago someone opened a thread that his backup application wasnt working when language was set to Finnish sooo.... :eek:

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Android 2.2 will be here before PR 1.2 with full flash 10.1 support... NOKIA are you getting how angry your customer are? Do you get that many of us will never ever buy a phone form you?
It's so pointless... nobody gives a f... about us..

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

They already did when they released the PR1.0 N900 last year and then with PR 1.1 and then with PR1.1.1.

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It's late because blah blah blah. that's what i see. they don't explain anything that is going behind the scene. only saying that they are testing ( it's obvious). but how it's possible - not to know date, i mean at least month or year or what ever. why didn't he explained why it's so important to release everything on this release - because other wouldn't come?

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so I feel even worse now being tied to vodafone uk.......I still havent got the last update let alone even thinking about the new next update ......I love the phone and will stick with it but it just pisses me off that I feel like Iam treared so differently. Rant over lol

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First of all, I would NOT RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE for the world:mad:

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i wonder if those angry 3-year-olds here realize how most people who own an N900 neither experience bugs at all nor know that a firmware update is in the works (and if they know, they don't care about it much other than thinking "oh, hopefully it won't ruin my settings".)

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+1.

Be patient everyone and wait for it to be stable.

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this firmware better be better then anyone is expecting because nokia need it to still stay in the game.

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I hope the 4-month-old fanbois in here realise that no matter how long PR1.2 will take, it will have bugs and regressions. The only thing the delay does is making us wait longer for getting fixes to the bugs and regressions in PR1.1.

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All right, kids, chill... whatever your age.

/me writes script to block any post mentioning PR1.2 :p

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For one thing, making sure the upgrade path to 1.2 works for everyone takes time. That delay is cut away if you have it installed to begin with.

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I'm not Nokia, but my honest guess is that any delays in Flash come from Adobe (the whole Flash thing is their doing). They have been notoriously bad supporting any Linux version. For example, they did never get Flash 9 for x86 out of beta. Also Flash 10 for 64-bit Linux is still in alpha.

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To pick up on Texrats advice...

Please be aware of that HK version is some kind of different to the global version so there maybe other things they have to look at for the global one.

Asking again and again for explanations wont help as you wont get much more than already released.

Nokia has a demand of working PRs so it might take some time to fullfill this. As already mentioned in the email, there are some bugs not easy to track down. I am currently investigating in hildon-home hickups which take about 2-5 days to occure so to determine which of the 3rd party programs is causing it takes weeks of testing already. He wrote about longterm issues and maybe they got a way to get something like home mess up in a shorter time but still it will take weeks to test and fix.

If you like to have your phone broken or bricked because of a leaked PR's RC this is ok with me. Maybe there is no closed community test for PR1.2 as Nokia does not want to take the risk yet. Have you thought of that they may bricked devices while testing and decided to not release yet?

Please chill out on the PR1.2 topic. We all have to wait! Posting off-topic and Nokia requests all over the place doesn't help any one but keeps the moderators busy.

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I don't care about hildon-home. This is free software, so we can fix it ourselves. But regressions in closed components should not take 4 months to fix.

BTW, according to gitorious hildon-home was not touched since February 19 except for some debug related compilation flag.

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Why do some people keep referring to this 1.2 as released in Hong-Kong but not the rest of the world ?
As far as I know it was shown on a device during a show in HK, at this time someone got hold of the beta FW and spread it around.

It is not an official release, not available for N900 buyers in HK or anywhere... so ?

If I was head of sw development @ Nokia I'd leak it and hope that the hackers & tweakers would test it.

I'd have a team following the "issues" & "bugs" and I'd let a few shills make postings like: "DON'T install this !", "ILLEGAL" & "Will BREAK and BRICK your device", etc.

In the mean time I'd have plausible deniability and get feedback from the die-hard fans of the N900 :)

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Thanks Matan. I don't think anyone dares to call you troll.

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http://www.softsailor.com/news/26404...-concerns.html

anyone read this?

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This.

The closed source apps (and heck, even the other components of the OS that can be compartmentalized) should really be treated as separate applications and receive separate updates from the massive PR updates that appear to be death to release on time.

And yes, I have voted for that particular brainstorm :P

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WHO bricked his device??????

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Yesss WHO? :p

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lol..i dont know..should be someone who is too lazy to read the wiki about flashing thoroughly...

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Well as I have read, all those who tried going back to PR1.1 !
Many on this forum + e.g.;
http://www.softsailor.com/news/26404...-concerns.html

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Absoloooooot RUBBISH lol :p

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In fact i would say absolute impossible unless you got no idea how to flash an N900.