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x61 2010-05-17 02:10

OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Just found out today that my Sygic USA map does not included the state of Indiana...wtf? I got lost somewhere in Indiana and I pulled out Sygic for a route home then....NOTHING. Ovi maps did one good today.... I am emailing Sygic on this matter.

nosa101 2010-05-17 02:12

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
i thought ovi maps was teh worst?

kingoddball 2010-05-17 02:13

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
That's disgusting..
Maybe it's a coastal things? Maybe you buy maps for regions?
I'm not sure where Indiana is, but maybe regional maps are purchased.
I would buy Sygic if they had Australia maps.

Are we getting a decent OVI store soon that may include something good like tom tom so I can have voice nav?

craftyguy 2010-05-17 02:16

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
That's amazing. Even in a major US city (Portland, OR), Ovi maps still tries to tell me to drive off bridges and through parking lots in its routing. Sygic works like a champ.

Too bad there's not a way to completely remove Ovi maps and replace it with something that works...

x61 2010-05-17 02:20

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 661700)
i thought ovi maps was teh worst?

Yeah... OVI maps was the sh**t until I noticed Sygic does not have Indiana maps in there... Still prefer Sygic over OVI any time... but what is the use of Sygic when there is no Map?

CepiPerez 2010-05-17 02:35

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
I'm from Argentina and sygic has no maps for me :(

borland 2010-05-17 02:38

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Sygic>Ovi for me.
Sygic froze on me a couple of times, but still the options it has keeps OVI aside.

x61 2010-05-17 02:54

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Can people with USA maemo map check to see if the state of Indiana is there for them? I could not find it.

craftyguy 2010-05-17 03:12

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 661724)
Can people with USA maemo map check to see if the state of Indiana is there for them? I could not find it.

Wow you're absolutely right, I don't have it either...

Maybe Sygic has something against Indiana??

HellFlyer 2010-05-17 03:23

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 661705)
That's amazing. Even in a major US city (Portland, OR), Ovi maps still tries to tell me to drive off bridges and through parking lots in its routing. Sygic works like a champ.

Too bad there's not a way to completely remove Ovi maps and replace it with something that works...

Really? Well tell you what when Ovi Maps gets updated with voice and free turn-by turn would you still want to do that?

Ovi Maps is free and includes the whole world not just Portland lol

kingoddball 2010-05-17 03:47

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@ HellFlyer:
Is that just a guess about OVI with voice nav or a real update that's coming in the future?

HellFlyer 2010-05-17 03:53

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 661754)
@ HellFlyer:
Is that just a guess about OVI with voice nav or a real update that's coming in the future?

Its a guess but a good one ;) in PR 1.2 maps will be updated with some minor tweaks and Ovi Suite 2.2 will be out with N900 support so its only a matter of time. Moreover since Maemo/MeeGo are very much similar even if we dont get Maemo 5 Ovi maps MeeGo should include one

F2thaK 2010-05-17 03:53

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
i would buy sygic if they had australian maps also

I have kept my old 5800xm as it has garmin gps with turn-by-turn!

craftyguy 2010-05-17 04:19

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 661740)
Really? Well tell you what when Ovi Maps gets updated with voice and free turn-by turn would you still want to do that?

Ovi Maps is free and includes the whole world not just Portland lol

Yes, yes I would. What good is voice nav if the 'nav' part of that sucks horribly? My point is that Ovi has a terrible routing engine.


Quote:

Moreover since Maemo/MeeGo are very much similar even if we dont get Maemo 5 Ovi maps MeeGo should include one
I really hope that Ovi maps is ditched altogether and replaced with Google maps in Meego :)

HellFlyer 2010-05-17 04:32

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 661772)
Yes, yes I would. What good is voice nav if the 'nav' part of that sucks horribly? My point is that Ovi has a terrible routing engine.




I really hope that Ovi maps is ditched altogether and replaced with Google maps in Meego :)

I've been using Ovi on my N95 8gb with voice and turn by turn and I never had any problems. ( I'm not comparing because they are different software) .....However for that same reason do you have any inside knowledge about terrible routing engine. because as far as I know Ovi Maps for N900 was developed from scratch :)


Dont be ridiculous , Ovi wont be ditched for Google maps, if you want Google maps switch to Android or wait maybe one day Google will develop an Maps app for MeeGo ;)

kingoddball 2010-05-17 04:33

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Thanks HellFlyer, nice guessing. I hope you are right and I hope that we finally get some nice apps (and games!).

craftyguy 2010-05-17 04:34

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 661778)
However for that same reason do you have any inside knowledge about terrible routing engine

Umm.. my own experience with this product as a customer??

HellFlyer 2010-05-17 04:45

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 661780)
umm.. My own experience with this product as a customer??

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ossipena 2010-05-17 04:54

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 661772)
My point is that Ovi has a terrible routing engine.

are you talking about ovi maps for N900, ovi maps 3.x or every ovi maps version ever made?

fms 2010-05-17 05:33

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 661702)
I'm not sure where Indiana is, but maybe regional maps are purchased.

Neither do I nor Sygic developers. Admit it: as far as the world is concerned, Indiana may not actually exist.

cjp 2010-05-17 10:06

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
What is it actually that you guys hate about Ovi Maps?

Beyond the horrible usability, do you guys find route finding really bad in Ovi Maps, or is it simply the lack of voice guided navigation`?

x61 2010-05-17 11:36

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 662103)
What is it actually that you guys hate about Ovi Maps?

Beyond the horrible usability, do you guys find route finding really bad in Ovi Maps, or is it simply the lack of voice guided navigation`?

The lack of voice guidance plus inability to reroute.

geneven 2010-05-17 12:11

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
My Sygic map has Indiana.

x61 2010-05-17 13:14

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olighak (Post 662205)
Who goes to/through Indiana? :cool:

Otherwise, the maps might exist, but have failed to be copied over to the N900 by Sygic assistant.

Go to program files\sygic mobile maps usa\maps and see if you canīt find the uia folder.

Copy it manually to the maps folder for sygic on your N900. You are good to go.

Sygic did copy the indiana maps to my N900 so I have them there, but I saw it fail to copy Malta and Iceland over to my N900 in the European maps. I was getting quite pissed at them for advertising Sygic as having maps for those countries, but not having them, until I realized that they were on my PC but hadnīt been copied by the assistant over to my device.

I have the uia file but I believe that is for Iowa not Indiana. I believe Indiana map should be uin but it is not in there... Do you have have the uin.pak file?

olighak 2010-05-17 13:31

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 662349)
I have the uia file but I believe that is for Iowa not Indiana. I believe Indiana map should be uin but it is not in there... Do you have have the uin.pak file?

Iīm sorry of course it should be UIN.

And I do have the file. You can download it from http://hkn.it/uin.pak

just create a uin directory on your N900 and copy the file in there.

Is it not in your maps folder on your computer?

:)

I also copied the setup file from sygicīs server to have it for reinstallation etc.

You can download it from http://hkn.it/sygic/SetupSMM_Maemo_USA.exe

I canīt believe itīs illegal to distribute it, since you need to buy a license to use it anyway after downloading.

x61 2010-05-17 13:33

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olighak (Post 662381)
Iīm sorry of course it should be UIN.

And I do have the file. You can download it from http://hkn.it/uin.pak

just create a uin directory on your N900 and copy the file in there.

:)

U the MAN!!!

tissot 2010-05-17 14:07

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 661772)
I really hope that Ovi maps is ditched altogether and replaced with Google maps in Meego :)

OVI maps is great at least here in Europe, but it's horrible for Maemo.
Google maps is not free here in Europe as Google doesn't own any maps like Nokia does as it bought Navteq years ago for 8.1 billion so OVI maps is a no brainer in Harmattan/MeeGo.

radiowc 2010-05-17 14:11

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Well, it always good to have a backup gps navigation software regardless sygic or ovimap, etc. You never knows, one day you might depend on it just like what you had experience.

sebastian_ua 2010-05-17 14:20

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 661698)
Just found out today that my Sygic USA map does not included the state of Indiana...wtf? I got lost somewhere in Indiana and I pulled out Sygic for a route home then....NOTHING. Ovi maps did one good today.... I am emailing Sygic on this matter.

wasn't that "Interstate 60" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_60? wasn't that super-town Danver and you failed to get there?..

x61 2010-05-18 00:07

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
The file is added but still the Indiana map won't show up. I even re-run the setup. By the way, the original setup has a .deb while the one olighak uploaded is .exe. Anyway, it does not work...

myk 2010-05-18 04:12

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
> Neither do I nor Sygic developers. Admit it: as far as the world is concerned, Indiana may not actually exist.

How many people in Indiana know where Bratislava is?
Maybe Sygic thought it was part of Canada.

Anyway, the only direction you need in Indiana is "stay on the interstate".

geneven 2010-05-18 04:25

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
I have rerun setup several times, and Indiana is there every time. For example, I can see the streets in Gary, Indiana.

There are checkboxes when you install the maps, and it is possible that you accidently unchecked the checkbox for Indiana. That would mean that no matter how many times you reinstalled the setup, Indiana would be mysteriously absent. Did you make sure the Indiana map was checked?

If you did, I'm surprised you didn't mention it -- it's something you would mention if you were checking thoroughly. You would say "and I even checked Indiana among the maps to install!"

phase315 2010-05-18 04:26

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
[QUOTE=HellFlyer;661778]I've been using Ovi on my N95 8gb with voice and turn by turn and I never had any problems. ( I'm not comparing because they are different software) .....However for that same reason do you have any inside knowledge about terrible routing engine. because as far as I know Ovi Maps for N900 was developed from scratch :)

I didn't know they made voice turn by turn for the n95, I have a N82. I wonder if they updated maps for it?

HellFlyer 2010-05-18 05:37

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
[QUOTE=phase315;663441]
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 661778)
I've been using Ovi on my N95 8gb with voice and turn by turn and I never had any problems. ( I'm not comparing because they are different software) .....However for that same reason do you have any inside knowledge about terrible routing engine. because as far as I know Ovi Maps for N900 was developed from scratch :)

I didn't know they made voice turn by turn for the n95, I have a N82. I wonder if they updated maps for it?

I was using unlocked Symbian with cracked Maps , 2.0 or something like that , I made a mistake by that time I was using it was called Nokia Maps but it had voice though :)

x61 2010-05-18 16:02

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 663440)
I have rerun setup several times, and Indiana is there every time. For example, I can see the streets in Gary, Indiana.

There are checkboxes when you install the maps, and it is possible that you accidently unchecked the checkbox for Indiana. That would mean that no matter how many times you reinstalled the setup, Indiana would be mysteriously absent. Did you make sure the Indiana map was checked?

If you did, I'm surprised you didn't mention it -- it's something you would mention if you were checking thoroughly. You would say "and I even checked Indiana among the maps to install!"

I don't remember having such options. What do I need to know to reinstall it? I added the uin.pak to the maps folder and re-run the setup but still it won't work.

x61 2010-05-31 18:26

Re: OVI maps saved the day.... Sygic, a real dissappointment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olighak (Post 662381)
Iīm sorry of course it should be UIN.

And I do have the file. You can download it from http://hkn.it/uin.pak

just create a uin directory on your N900 and copy the file in there.

Is it not in your maps folder on your computer?

:)

I also copied the setup file from sygicīs server to have it for reinstallation etc.

You can download it from http://hkn.it/sygic/SetupSMM_Maemo_USA.exe

I canīt believe itīs illegal to distribute it, since you need to buy a license to use it anyway after downloading.

Olighak, the re-installation file is a .exe file. should it not be .deb file?


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