Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 

"Moving away from the update and to look at MeeGo and the Nokia N900. Many of you have been asking whether the new MeeGo platform will be supported on the N900 once it’s device-ready. Although Nokia N900 devices are being used for platform development and testing purposes by those involved in the MeeGo project, we don’t have plans for a full scale commercial MeeGo upgrade on the Nokia N900. The reason? It’s really about ensuring that you have the best possible experience designed for the features on your Nokia N900 device. Nokia realises this news may be a disappointment for some, rest assured that Nokia will continue to support the core Maemo software on your Nokia N900, as evidenced by the PR 1.2 (V10.2010.19-1) update available today."

http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...e-release-1-2/

Sorry, guys.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

But there was never going to be a commercial MeeGo release

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disappointment

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

true that, but I believe someone in the community will port it to the N900, someone from Nokia said this "If we don't bring MeeGo to the N900, we expect someone from the Community to bring it to the device" !!

MeeGo 1.0 is expected to be released soon, lets see what does that bring !!

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

What does MeeGo actually give you that Maemo does not? Do apps for MeeGo run on Maemo PR1.2. If so, why is there this over whelming desire to get Meego? -just curious

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That made me a little limp... :(

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What absolute ******** rationale. This is the official line? That may have held true with the 770, where the hardware was truly a limiting factor, but the N900 has absolute state of the art hardware stats comparable to anything released on the market today or in the near future.

"Ensuring the best possible user experience" has become the blanket term used by uncreative PR flacks when they are s***ing someone over.

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How is this a surprise? =)

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Let's remember that this all about user experience. Polishing software is a lot of work. Polishing each application for resistive screen (as good as it is) is not trivial considering that we are making the UI for our Nokia product on MeeGo for capacitive screens as we have said already in Maemo Summit 2009.

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Good and bad news in one day. I don't know how I should feel right now.

But for now, I'll be happy and will update to 1.2 soon. :D

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Do you guys check topics what have been made in last 1-2h at all? And thread topic is plain wrong. It will be but not commercial.

..edit
And i should check times. This was first but second thread has right topic :|

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

Yes, it does with the coming of PR1.2 its the first device with Pre-installed Qt, and it is future compatible with the MeeGo and its 3rd Party apps !! everything that runs on MeeGo will run on Maemo !

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There you go its a bleak story yet again from a company that only cares about money forget people !.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

Does this mean that, let's say Samsung makes a resistive screen device with MeeGo on it, we can port the Samsung version?

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yyeee made me limp too. nokia really dont care lol. they know we want it. but dont want to give it. they know people are unhappy but.... dont care. well dont nokia realise every second person has a iphone??? lol nokia might be king BUT king of what... the low-end market????????


:D o well someone will port it.

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Added "(commercial)" to the title, but doesn't seem to load it yet.

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There will still be flashable versions for the N900 I'm sure for quite some time all. So as MeeGo becomes "mature" you'll still be able to flash it and use it.

Now.. whether there's actually going to be a "user" experience that degrades between the use of capacitive or resistive *shrug*.. but it'll be there for those who want it I'm sure. (They'll just say it's "devel").

(ETA: I am, however, saddened they decided not to official support it.)

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

I guess now nobody will dare even to mention flash 10.1 :(

So N900 becomes Holy Grail , IMO MeeGo wil adopt capacitive and mutlitouch screen without hardware keyboard..N900 with Maemo 5 stays the only real pocket computer!!!! :)

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

If Meego is being designed for capacitive, does that mean we are likely to loose the physical keyboard? This blows. I dont want meego if it has no keyboard.

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to Peter@Maemo Marketing : sure user UI is priority, but it just doesn't seem to be ethical to screw customers who buy the MOST EXPENSIVE and highest-end mobile phone available from nokia, only to have it fall by the way side and become a legacy device.

If MeeGo is seen as an OS for top end nokia phones, then it sounds like nokia was covering the wool over n900 buyers by leaving future maemo support purposely 'open' so that we wouldn't know we're buying a shiny new device that has reached its end-of-life.

but hey, i've got pr1.2 downloading now, i only have myself to blame when i bought the n900. caveat emptor eh nokia? i'm still an n900 fan, regardless of the company shafting us for the sake of 'the future and scalability' that is the meego cashcow.

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For Nokia. There is a possibility that other companies could make resistive screen meego devices

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You guys have to stop believing everyone is like us. How would the average user feel if they started up the device one day only to find out everything is slightly different?

That leaves Nokia with the unattractive option of supporting two operating systems on one device. Why do you think they owe us this when an unofficial port can do the job and Maemo has Qt anyway?

You're acting like Fremantle is some kind of horrible system when in reality it is excellent with a couple of omissions.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

I've got to admit that it doesn't bother me wether the N900 gets an official port of MeeGo or not. First I'm quite sure that someone will port it over and second I'm quite happy with Maemo as it is. As long as Nokia doesn't stop to support it as soon as MeeGo goes on sale...

It all boils down to: lets wait and see....

Regards,
Glasswalker

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TBH though, do people want MeeGo because of the apps? If so, the Qt apps should work on Maemo.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

not really. the samsung UI, designed for resistive, would most probably be closed source, just like the nokia UI is closed.

there'll be an open "reference UI" though. i wonder if this will be optimized for capacitive or resistive.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

But doesn't that defeat the openness of it all? I think it should be no different from flashing the Sense UI onto a Nexus 1

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Typical Nokia. And TBH, not just Nokia.

New OS in an existing mobile device? No way.
Despite some "wannabe" inside info claiming Meego MAY be available for N900, it was obviously planned from the first moment, that Meego will be available ONLY for an upcoming new device.
New OS -> New Device -> $$$$$

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I want MeeGo soley for selfish 'me-too' reasons. buying the highest-end most expensive device represents the cutting edge bleeding technology with the inference that any more advanced operating system that is deemed by the company i bought the device from to be 'the most advanced' should be available for my device.

at the very least, an operating system which is the 'successor' to the current o/s should be made firmware upgradeable, a reasonable request considering the less than 1 year age of the n900 since its release date. heck, in my country (singapore), they launched the n900 officially 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks old and it's EOL? doesn't seem to be anything than unethical social corporate responsibility from nokia. not a rant, just a realistic prosumer point of view. i love my n900, but question the actual decision-making and longevity-support from nokia's management.

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It have never been said that MeeGo will be a OTA release for n900. The things that have been said that it might come a dual boot option. But the installation will be manual. So no bad news just great. ;)

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

Sigh. Cool down people. Get up, take a breath of air, and then come back to the thread.

Let's take the facts:
- The N900 will not get a commercially supported MeeGo release
- The N900 is a reference development platform for MeeGo
- MeeGo (an upstream linux distro) is heading for it's 1.0 release

Out of those it is pretty easy to deduct that:
- MeeGo on the N900 is not for the average consumer.
- MeeGo will run in it's default configuration on the N900
- No-one will give any guarantees on how MeeGo on N900 will work

=> If you are a hard core developer, MeeGo on N900 is for you.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

the most important part here is Qt. Meego and Symbian apps can also be targetted to the 900. We should see at least a decent increase in apps now over the next few months.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

Okay so what about the "nokia" news about dual boot for Meego and Maemo i guess this was a lie?

Iam happy about PR 1.2 now for the Moment but how many offical Updates we will see after this?

@madnes why do you say Meego is a new System its mostly from Maemo Components as you can see at some threads here its called a better Maemo 6.

So for me this is really angry i just hope that the next news arent Meego is based now on a higher version of QT or something like this and that we really can use the Apps at the N900.

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You could dual boot but not with "official" firmware

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You act as if porting an OS to a device is an easy task. Maemo, despite a surface appearance of openness, contain quite a few closed source components without which huge chunks of basic functionality are missing and have to be reimplemented. To date, there isn't really a viable community supported release of Maemo for any of the Nokia devices. It is small wonder almost no 3rd party manufacturers have attempted to make a device based on Maemo, while it is hard not to trip on all the new android devices coming out near daily.

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all i care about is flash 10.1. i want GPU support

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"rest assured that Nokia will continue to support the core Maemo software on your Nokia N900"

So is that going to be like the assurance we got for the n810 platform?.....or more like death in under 9 month and your outdated device gets laughed at. People I'd just like to say from my NOKIA to my wallet: Thanks you for your money and oh yea best wishes, rest assured we gotcha guys! ;)

Nokia is the most pathetic incompetent pack of losers to ever walk into an IT room or get in the market. With hopes of being truely "open" after relying on the market on zero innovation and a 100% reliance on Symbian they are losing market share and running scarred for the hill.

You know what, keep your MeeGo, Intel is going to create their own locked down OS built especially for their Moorestown chip and MeeGo is just going to be a bridge gaper along with Android. Which, might I add, are just about light years ahead of you, at least they support the user who shells out the $500 for your unfinished device. And Apple? They are in a different universe comparing to you. You know as much as I hate em and how much they get bashed by zealot users on this site, you can still install any new app on your very first iphone 8bg that you bought back in 2006 to this day and it runs at near identical speeds.

One more thing, I've had my posts deleted before, posts that were not insulting that were not violating any rules set in place, why were they deleted, because they were not favorable to Nokia. So if any of you folks feel that Nokia is going to be something more "open" in the future, your lying to yourself.

My personal take on the future is that open is going to all close, minus maybe openmoko. And the closes that anyone is going to get to being truely "open" and at the same time competent, it is going to be the Android platform. Currently Nokia cannot satisfy even one of those....

/rant

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I'm pretty sure those companies obtained a license from Google. There was android before the Nexus 1. WM 7 will be on multiple devices but it isn;t open

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flash 10 support would be good now, can then watch iplayer, tv catchup etc!

I dont care too much for meego as long as we now get the apps on maemo i'll be happy.

Re: Official: No MeeGo for the N900
 

Yeah, speaking as an Android owner whose phone came out about 4 months before the N900, you guys have now officially gotten 1 more software update than I have (and will likely ever get).

So the grass isn't always greener. Be happy the phone is being improved.

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While I understand the reasons, I still believe that such non-trivial effort should have been made.