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h3llraz0r 2010-05-26 12:49

Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Please reply to this thread if you agree!

rpgAmazon 2010-05-26 13:01

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
...Yup! You are better troll than me, I meant:
I can't ask for MeeGo because I buy a Maemo5 device.
We all (ALL) thought n900 will upgrade to Maemo6-Meego. But, in fact, Nokia never said that... and after selling enough n900, they say it will not happen. Ok, Nokia play rules, I suppose they know what are doing.
But, Ovi Maps v3? Where is the excuse for stay out of that?
Anyway, their matter, not mine. In few months we will start reciving mails and sms "ofering" us their "new revolutionary device".
And then kindly they will be answered.

daemonfin 2010-05-26 13:04

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
This is useless.

pyykkhe 2010-05-26 13:04

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Yep, if they offer it, we don't have to squeeze it.

acvetkov 2010-05-26 13:08

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Please someone tell me that there is a ban option in this forum for users like h3llraz0r that are starting pointless and stupid threads all days and basicly the only thing they do is curse at nokia. A hint go whine at Nokia. Maemo community DOES not dictate Nokia company policy.

If you don`t like the device SELL it for god sake, am tired of reading pointless threads of whines. This community is about making the maemo experiance better not whining whining and whining. Life is not fair grow UP.

Dirkjl 2010-05-26 13:11

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Did I miss the news that Nokia officialy said there will be no MeeGo for the N900 ??

rpgAmazon 2010-05-26 13:15

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirkjl (Post 679323)
Did I miss the news that Nokia officialy said there will be no MeeGo for the N900 ??

@Dirkjl
Yes, I'm sorry but you missed it. No official release.

Tedri Mark 2010-05-26 13:18

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
On a related note, I am A little disheartened to find that Microsoft never released windows Vista for my 486. I mean, how dare they?

h3llraz0r 2010-05-26 13:19

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedri Mark (Post 679350)
On a related note, I am A little disheartened to find that Microsoft never released windows Vista for my 486. I mean, how dare they?


You're comparing Vista/486 with MeeGo/N900


I must disagree with that comparison!

stopgap 2010-05-26 13:20

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
One vote from me. I don't care what Nokia said or didn't say - the N900 is clearly capable of running it and of being a better device and it costs a lot of money. I bought it with the expectation of a string of Maemo based devices to come after it and hence continuing to drive support and updates based on that. As that's clearly not going to happen I want the option to switch the the OS that is.... it's not like I want a 4 year old phone to suddenly have all the updates of the latest one, this phone and OS is mere months old! (not that I like Apple or the iPhone one bit, but... they did update their 4 year old devices!!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 679351)
You're comparing Vista/486 with MeeGo/N900


I must disagree with that comparison!

Here here! I'm so fed up of people on this forum spinning perfectly valid comments and complaints into ridiculous extreme examples like that. The Maemo platform in release terms is mere months old - not 15+ years!! MeeGo is obviously able to run on the N900 because they have released builds of it for developers, for the N900.

Tedri Mark 2010-05-26 13:25

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 679351)
You're comparing Vista/486 with MeeGo/N900


I must disagree with that comparison!


I bought my fone based on what it did at the time and whether I thought that was suitable for me, which is probably why I'm not that bothered about future support for it. Sure some more apps would be nice, but whatever happens happens. I feel a bit sorry for those who bought the device based on speculation of what might become, but surely in this day and age people know better..

Parody 2010-05-26 13:30

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Now that the browsing is better and the virtual keyboard doesn't suck anymore, all I care about is Flash Player 10.1. :)
It's pretty much perfect for me now.

stopgap 2010-05-26 13:32

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedri Mark (Post 679364)
I bought my fone based on what it did at the time and whether I thought that was suitable for me, which is probably why I'm not that bothered about future support for it. Sure some more apps would be nice, but whatever happens happens. I feel a bit sorry for those who bought the device based on speculation of what might become, but surely in this day and age people know better..

Yes and no... it's not really unreasonable to speculate that Nokia, having released a brand new operating system, would continue to build devices that use it. Such a string of devices would drive further development and maintenance of the OS and hence keep it alive and fresh with new features and fixes. Nokia instead have just dropped it in favour of MeeGo which will presumably have a string of devices... who knows, they might just drop that one dead too!

I bought my N900 speculating on this, not that MeeGo would be made available. I think that MeeGo should be made available now that they've dropped Maemo in such an insanely short space of time - but that isn't what I originally hoped for when I got it - it hadn't even been announced when I did. This is an expensive and capable piece of hardware with much room to expand and grow - it's not unreasonable to expect it to do so and I wouldn't call that speculation, just reasonable expectation based on cost and size of manufacturer, compared to other computing goods and hardware's track records (in similar and different areas).

zaedej 2010-05-26 14:00

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
It won't work!! You think Nokia cares, they already got our $$, now it's time for them to make us get Meego through another phone.

Tedri Mark 2010-05-26 14:19

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zaedej (Post 679469)
It won't work!! You think Nokia cares, they already got our $$, now it's time for them to make us get Meego through another phone.

This is probably true, although it's probably more down to the business model for mobile technology than any sort of moral or ethical standpoint.

Right now it seems like we're going through a transition from fones being something that you have for 12 months then replace to something that is set to last you 2 or more years..

twigleaf1976 2010-05-26 14:21

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedri Mark (Post 679364)
but surely in this day and age people know better..

In this "day and age" People know that two massive corporations are vying for control of the mobile phone market with app based shops that support all old phones running that OS (All Iphone and the ipad have to be able to use all their apps. Android 2.2 will play most if not all of the previous apps if you update one or two pieces of software, with only a small % needing to be scrapped. MS Marketplace trying to do the same for Winmo. 6.0, 6.1, 6.5 and 7.0 (Though badly)

So if you compare what Nokia are trying to do on paper, they should at least be equal to them if they want to compete in this decade. Maemo has been born and died on the N900 as before that Maemo 4 was on what phones?.

The merit of a petition is good, but Nokia have put the writing on the wall. "Maemo is dead, Meego lives, if you bought a phone and believed the hype then you're a dumb ***." (Granted the last is my interpretation of their efforts to fix the ovi suite, ovi maps offers etc.)

BN900 2010-05-26 15:09

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
WE WERE PROMISED a brand new OS (Harmattan) that would involve, among others, FULL PORTRAIT MODE SUPPORT.

We were promise Flash 10.1 when it was demonstrated online by Nokia and Adobe!

Many people bought their N900s based on these promises!

This is somewhat ILLEGAL and infuriating. We should make a petition. It will not do much. The best it could do is to push them to make Maemo 5 with full portrait mode.

Laughingstok 2010-05-26 15:13

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Where was it promised? :confused:

Stskeeps 2010-05-26 15:15

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BN900 (Post 679684)
WE WERE PROMISED a brand new OS (Harmattan) that would involve, among others, FULL PORTRAIT MODE SUPPORT.

They promised it for N900? :) I'm sure it'll come, but not for N900, officially.

BN900 2010-05-26 15:21

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
I am not talking about Meego1, I am talking about Maemo6. That was PROMISED.

We were also promised ovi maps 3 capabilities "Eventually".

BN900 2010-05-26 15:23

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
The main problem for Meego is the resistive screen, IMO, of the N900. I do not know how difficult it is to change the algorithms for Capacitative to Resistive screens. Another issue will be that that Meego probably will expect at least 800 Mhz with GPU or Snapdragon as a starting point. Although the N900 can do this, Nokia will not officially support Overclocking.

resplendent2209 2010-05-26 15:23

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
@Nokia and The hardware adaptation team

You guys carry on the work of bringing Meego-Harmattan to N900. This community will never be satisfied.

gerbick 2010-05-26 15:23

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Maemo 6 was never promised. Fremantle was delivered (Maemo 5) and Harmattan/MeeGo was never promised.

Optln 2010-05-26 15:50

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Why do you want an immature OS which would probably need months to become usable state? Android became a proper OS after 2 years of its initial announcment. I like Maemo 5, and with PR 1.2 and better Ovi Suite experience it's probably better OS that MeeGo will be in many months. What needs a petition is Flash 10.1 and a promise for new apps in Ovi Store.

6sicSIX 2010-05-26 16:16

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
I'm probably talking crap, but,
Meego will run in some way as it is being developed on the N900, yes?
The main problem is the resistive screen?
If, say, a third party company were to make a drop in replacement capacitive screen, I'm assuming that the hardware could take it as it's the same as the iCrap.
I know nothing about development, but how hard would it be to modify the screen driver? What about the milestone driver?

leetut 2010-05-26 18:25

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
ill get a meego device when they come out as long as there better than this one, or ill go android or iphone if they 'ever' release a device thats better than this one!
im sure maemo5 will be even more awesome in a couple of years, just give it time, personally i love maemo5 and meego looked a bit crap in those photos that were floating around recently, but everyone should move forward if something better comes along, we should be privelidged that nokia let us buy this device in the first place,
in the mean time someone should create a thread to buy maemo from nokia!
then we can run our own OS and compete against nokia, ill throw 20 quid in for the cause

tobylee 2010-05-27 04:03

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
The OP also started a thread called "sell your N900 and buy an android phone"

FYI

HellFlyer 2010-05-27 04:05

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
If Nokia gives FULL portrait mode and voice navigation I dont need stupid GoGo until it matures to at least 1.6 or 2.0

kingoddball 2010-05-27 04:12

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Just release a:

MeGoo N900 Hacker Edition! (aka - Fully working developer edition)

Be happy with what you get.

HellFlyer 2010-05-27 04:16

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Well I'm happy with Maemo :D

kingoddball 2010-05-27 04:19

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Maemo is great, BUT! Seems a little... flat..

It's not as customisable as I would have expected. Being open and linux.
I can not even customise it unless I install a theme.

I'd like to add features to it, Like a start menu or something..

IT'S DAMNED LINUX! We should be able to.

Optimus 2010-05-27 04:23

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Petition to get vsync and physx to n900!

PradaBrada 2010-05-27 12:54

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Useless thread

volt 2010-05-27 13:09

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
There's no "back" in "official support on the N900". Also, Maps 3 were promised on the Maemo OS family. I have never seen it promised on the N900 device.

People expect too much from after-sales customer care. This is why I was disappointed in the initial Maemo 5 release, because what you get up front in a deal is usually pretty much what you get. Sales oriented people don't usually run after people to give them freebies after a sale. Nokia could throw in millions of euros to improve the lives of existing Maemo 5 customers. But that would partially prevent these customers from wanting to buy the first Maemo 6 device. That would be stupid money. Smart money is the same money, made to improve the sellability of the next device.

ysss 2010-05-27 13:13

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Need capacitive multitouch screen to be MeeGo 1.0 eligible...

russo_br 2010-05-27 13:23

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
I was fighting for this as well, but I don't think a petition will help.... The decision was already made despite even knowing that it would cause disappointment.

USE YOUR CUSTOMER POWER: NEVER BUY FROM NOKIA AGAIN, AND ADVISE YOUR FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME!!!!!!!

And I complement my rant with a simple question:

Do anybody here really believe that Nokia was not even discussing Meego when they launched Maemo 5 on N900 last year???

If you are that naive to believe Nokia does care for its image with customers, you can believe that and keep being a blind fanboy.... If not, you are probably also angry for spending 600 bucks on a high-end device and get the same support you would get from that U$50 "generic" Chinese mobiles.

Frappacino 2010-05-27 16:26

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
>> But that would partially prevent these customers from wanting to buy the first Maemo 6 device. That would be stupid money. Smart money is the same money, made to improve the sellability of the next device.

You are quite the fool. You do realise one of the base truths of business is that it costs MUCH less to keep an EXISTING customer then to gain a NEW customer ?

This is why you can often call your bank/credit card company etc and bargain for better terms, because to them it costs less to keep you then to lose you to another company.

When you PISS off a customer, they will feel hard done by and go out of their way to tell their friends NOT to buy your product.

And who do you think people will trust ? References from their friends or marketing spin from Nokia ?

Again Russo_BR has it utterly correct.

If you are not happy with n900, TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS to get a droid/apple phone.

If you are happy with then n900, well TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS that too.

But I bet you the 1st will outnumber the 2nd, because the n900 aint selling well. Otherwise it will be support by major players like adobe.

wmarone 2010-05-27 16:32

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Indeed, off to the iPrisons for all of us! Closed, locked down devices only available through unfair carrier contracts is the only way!

Then we can be assured that we only get upgrades if the company feels like it, instead of being unsure and having the possibility to do it ourselves!

h3llraz0r 2010-05-29 06:29

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 683306)
Indeed, off to the iPrisons for all of us! Closed, locked down devices only available through unfair carrier contracts is the only way!

Because jailbreaking is illegal and can't be done by noobs! Any noob will get their phone from a carrier. At least carriers supply it... To get the N900 in many countries you are forced to lose the warranty.

Quote:

Then we can be assured that we only get upgrades if the company feels like it, instead of being unsure and having the possibility to do it ourselves!

Yeah like with Nokia and PR 1.2... making us wait for so long and ditch MeeGo. At least the iPhone has updates for a few years ;)

I'm not PRO iPhone but I am anti-*****

mfr 2010-05-29 06:38

Re: Petition to get the official MeeGo support back on the N900
 
100%, we need meego so we can download apps from maemo and moblin :D:D


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