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Siddarth 2010-05-27 10:24
MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
I just the article on www.gsmarena.com....
http://www.gsmarena.com/meego_availa...-news-1691.php

Wht is happening...first It was announced That no meego for N900 now..they say Its THERE partially.....Is IT YES OR NO!!! IN OR OUT!!!

WHATS REALLY HAPPENEING!!!!!:confused:

nosa101 2010-05-27 10:29
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Just read the threads on the topic. Please

matrim 2010-05-27 10:30
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddarth (Post 682240)
I just the article on www.gsmarena.com....
http://www.gsmarena.com/meego_availa...-news-1691.php

Wht is happening...first It was announced That no meego for N900 now..they say Its THERE partially.....Is IT YES OR NO!!! IN OR OUT!!!

WHATS REALLY HAPPENEING!!!!!:confused:
There will be no official supported version of meego for the N900 released by Nokia but there will be unofficial development \ test \ community builds of meego for the N900

atilla 2010-05-27 10:32
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
maybe nokia had put down their crack pipe and decide to give us maemo too.who knows,............

Rocketman 2010-05-27 10:40
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
It appears that Nokia is using the N900 as a test bed / developer device to get it ready to ship officially on a future phone. There will not be an official commercial release of Meego for the N900. There is a group of people, including some who work for Nokia & work on Meego, working to release Meego for the N900. One of the big issues is that quite a few components of Maemo & now Meego are closed source apps, binary blobs & various bits licensed from other companies.

This has been a MAJOR issue with trying to create community supported versions of Maemo. Would you want to run Meego on your N900 if it didn't support Flash, phone functionality, wireless, bluetooth, etc. Reverse engineering chips in order to write drivers for them is a decidedly non-trivial task. Until Nokia makes a clear commitment to open up components that are currently closed, I am highly, highly skeptical that we will ever see a community supported version of Meego for the N900 that any regular user would want to run.

Siddarth 2010-05-27 10:42
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketman (Post 682272)
It appears that Nokia is using the N900 as a test bed / developer device to get it ready to ship officially on a future phone. There will not be an official commercial release of Meego for the N900. There is a group of people, including some who work for Nokia & work on Meego, working to release Meego for the N900. One of the big issues is that quite a few components of Maemo & now Meego are closed source apps, binary blobs & various bits licensed from other companies.

This has been a MAJOR issue with trying to create community supported versions of Maemo. Would you want to run Meego on your N900 if it didn't support Flash, phone functionality, wireless, bluetooth, etc. Reverse engineering chips in order to write drivers for them is a decidedly non-trivial task. Until Nokia makes a clear commitment to open up components that are currently closed, I am highly, highly skeptical that we will ever see a community supported version of Meego for the N900 that any regular user would want to run.
True...Very true!

casper27 2010-05-27 10:43
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
think of it in the same way Opera was released for N900. Its not a offivial release but will have more or less the same features as the offiial release as some of the people working on it are employed by the actual software developers be it Opera or Nokia.

jaysire 2010-05-27 10:47
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddarth (Post 682240)
You just accidentally a whole coka cola bottle?

Stskeeps 2010-05-27 10:50
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketman (Post 682272)
It appears that Nokia is using the N900 as a test bed / developer device to get it ready to ship officially on a future phone. There will not be an official commercial release of Meego for the N900. There is a group of people, including some who work for Nokia & work on Meego, working to release Meego for the N900. One of the big issues is that quite a few components of Maemo & now Meego are closed source apps, binary blobs & various bits licensed from other companies.

This has been a MAJOR issue with trying to create community supported versions of Maemo. Would you want to run Meego on your N900 if it didn't support Flash, phone functionality, wireless, bluetooth, etc. Reverse engineering chips in order to write drivers for them is a decidedly non-trivial task. Until Nokia makes a clear commitment to open up components that are currently closed, I am highly, highly skeptical that we will ever see a community supported version of Meego for the N900 that any regular user would want to run.
Important thing to notice is that the group you mention also deals and makes solutions for the blobs in question, including working to open source what we can. It isn't Nokia guys working in their free time on this only.

Think of MeeGo as Intel, Nokia, other companies and the rest of us working as one community to provide a product. Then things start making sense.

Siddarth 2010-05-27 10:53
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 682295)
You just accidentally a whole coka cola bottle?
hehehehe...I missed the Word "Read" ....:o

Venty 2010-05-27 11:18
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Look at it this way: Sure, full official MeeGo support for the N900 by Nokia would have been optimal. BUT! Compared to Android, we can run MeeGo on our N900, as opposed to Android 2.2 on a G1 or other phones.

So all in all, I think the way things turn out are okee. It could be worse.

devu 2010-05-27 11:27
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
From my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong please, is MeeGoo not longer Open Source OS ?

nidO 2010-05-27 11:30
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devu (Post 682419)
From my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong please, is MeeGoo not longer Open Source OS ?
You're wrong, it is.

The MeeGo operating system is open source, it's just either hardware drivers or user software added to it by individual vendors that may or may not be.

pantera1989 2010-05-27 11:33
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devu (Post 682419)
From my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong please, is MeeGoo not longer Open Source OS ?
No it's open source. What made you think it wasn't? The problems are that the drivers for N900 hardware are closed source.

malabar 2010-05-27 11:33
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
That is correct it is not an Opensource OS , Meegoo is that stuff dripping from my eyes after reading half these posts

harrihakulinen 2010-05-27 12:00
Re: MeeGo available for Nokia N900 after all, probably no official ROM??? Whats happening In or OUT!!!
 
About MeeGo 1.0 Core release for N900

It does NOT include

- Mobile UI/UX (N900 will boot to Xterm)
- Reference Applications

It is intended for MeeGo developers for development purposes, and

- has practically NO value for end users
- has little value for MeeGo application developers.

Please do NOT install it if you don't know what you need it for.

For mor in formation, pls. see
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900

Br,
//Harri


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