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euanandrews 2010-05-29 09:12

PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Unhappy with PR1.2 and the features and functions still missing from the N900?
Lets make a PR2.0 wishlist.

- Systemwide portrait mode
- 3G video calling
- STK support
- Ovi Maps voice guided navigation
- Full Ovi.com support, including online syncing
- On-screen portrait mode QWERTY
- Customizable ring tones for contacts and contact groups
- Ability to make custom contact groups
- Ability to make custom folders in apps menu
- MMS
- FM radio receiver
- 720p HD video recording
- Full Facebook and Twitter apps and desktop widgets
- MeeGo?

I know there are 3rd party apps that can do some of this list, but it would be preferable that Nokia provide such functionality, so it could all be better intergrated into the OS and other Nokia apps...

What else is missing?
Thoughts

Blaizzen 2010-05-29 09:13

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
I'd like to wish for PR2.0

(seeing as I haven't even seen any mention of further updates)

bockersjv 2010-05-29 09:14

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Best place for such a list is in the Meego area surely.

Don't think we will ever see a v2 of Fremantle

rolan900d 2010-05-29 09:16

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
No more threads like this one...

mfr 2010-05-29 09:25

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
All that you said i wish for ESPECIALLY > OVI Maps 3 and 3G Video calling.

P.S: Nokia might not make N900 full portrait coz of Keyboard and As its MOSTLY a tablet and phone second.

baxyp 2010-05-29 09:36

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
* updated video drivers with working vsync and real buffer swaps (currently uses blits)

* +1 for STK

MohammadAG 2010-05-29 09:43

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by euanandrews (Post 687588)
- 720p HD video recording

Software can never update hardware, how can they add 720p recording when the cam is only 5MPs? (actually less than 5MPs due to the size of the lens)

efekt 2010-05-29 09:48

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
What's wrong with PR 1.3 to 1.9 that we need to jump over them?

zehjotkah 2010-05-29 09:50

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 687625)
Software can never update hardware, how can they add 720p recording when the cam is only 5MPs? (actually less than 5MPs due to the size of the lens)

5MP is 2592 × 1944
720p is 1280 x 720
so where is the problem with the cam hardware?

of course the processor can't handle it.

jakiman 2010-05-29 09:51

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 687625)
Software can never update hardware, how can they add 720p recording when the cam is only 5MPs? (actually less than 5MPs due to the size of the lens)

720p is only 1280x720. That's not even 1MP. Samsung I9000 Galaxy S mobile phone can record and play back 720p H264 videos with a 5MP camera. (and nearly the same CPU but at 1GHz) Samsung OmniaHD can record 720p HD videos using identical OMAP3430 as N900. It's all in the drivers and software limitation for the N900 currently imho.

Even the one of highest end Canon 1080i Full HD video camera has a sensor which does less than 2MP. (Canon XH A1S)

Duff 2010-05-29 09:52

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
I think it's a little bit unfair to place a generalization that N900 should support portrait mode. I'm actually quite happy with the landscape format, it's what I initially paid for; a mobile-computer.

Here's my realistic wishlist:

Facebook Application
- I know theres Facebrick, but still would really prefer a more graphical friendly application with all the proper GUI and still retain it's conveniency. Take example of iPhone's facebook app.

Flash 10.1
- We seriously need this! One of the major reasons why I bought an N900 is because of the full-flash desktop web browser.

Better Performance
- I still believe the N900 still lags from time to time depending on how stressed it gets by certain multitasking even though thats totally understandable. However, when theres nothing running its really depressing to witness some grudgyness when scrolling up and down your contacts (or anything else really).

Tbh, most of the already-available N900 applications blew me away at first try, i'm not asking much but yeah... a smoother lag-free N900 is we need. Who wants a laggy phone anyway?

MohammadAG 2010-05-29 10:32

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 687635)
5MP is 2592 × 1944
720p is 1080 x 720
so where is the problem with the cam hardware?

of course the processor can't handle it.

The Samsung Omnia HD could record 720p and it has the same 600MHz ARM Coretx 8 processor.

KapCaveman 2010-05-29 10:40

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
PR2 to be step one of 5 for the rise of the machines?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/w...-bots-get-rea/

7thd 2010-05-29 10:41

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
WISH
stereo mic recordability. That would add 1 whole dimension to the video. Preferably through a TRS plugged mike.

pantera1989 2010-05-29 10:42

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by euanandrews (Post 687588)
Unhappy with PR1.2 and the features and functions still missing from the N900?
Lets make a PR2.0 wishlist.

- Systemwide portrait mode
- 3G video calling
- STK support
- Ovi Maps voice guided navigation
- Full Ovi.com support, including online syncing
- On-screen portrait mode QWERTY
- Customizable ring tones for contacts and contact groups
- Ability to make custom contact groups
- Ability to make custom folders in apps menu
- MMS
- FM radio receiver
- 720p HD video recording
- Full Facebook and Twitter apps and desktop widgets
- MeeGo?

I know there are 3rd party apps that can do some of this list, but it would be preferable that Nokia provide such functionality, so it could all be better intergrated into the OS and other Nokia apps...

What else is missing?
Thoughts

I like most of your list. Also more stability and faster UI will not kill us. A browser supporting Flash 10.1, and a freakin equalizer.

Raubtier 2010-05-29 10:57

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by euanandrews (Post 687588)
Unhappy with PR1.2 and the features and functions still missing from the N900?
Lets make a PR2.0 wishlist.

- Systemwide portrait mode
- 3G video calling
- STK support
- Ovi Maps voice guided navigation
- Full Ovi.com support, including online syncing
- On-screen portrait mode QWERTY
- Customizable ring tones for contacts and contact groups
- Ability to make custom contact groups
- Ability to make custom folders in apps menu
- MMS
- FM radio receiver
- 720p HD video recording
- Full Facebook and Twitter apps and desktop widgets
- MeeGo?

I know there are 3rd party apps that can do some of this list, but it would be preferable that Nokia provide such functionality, so it could all be better intergrated into the OS and other Nokia apps...

there was a chat with a representative of nokia sweden:

http://translate.google.se/translate...-1.360340.html

he makes it quite clear that:

1) there will be no mms (he talks about third party software)
2)there will be no ovi maps with voice nav, (talks about third party software, like sygic for e.g)
3) there is a twitter app in the ovi store, or at least it was announced alsready..

i also really would like to see full portrait mode functionality with screen keyboard. they also need to get their act together with renaming song file names and the wy you can arrange pictures in the gallery.

urishamay 2010-05-29 12:21

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
3g video call!

nosa101 2010-05-29 12:32

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raubtier (Post 687746)
2)there will be no ovi maps with voice nav, (talks about third party software, like sygic for e.g)
.

I think this will come because that's the only way MeeGo can get it. The Ovi Maps on symbian will have to be ported to Qt and if it does, we should get it

mud 2010-05-29 12:32

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
for me the most important update would b some provisionning support on mail for exchange. until then I cannot use the phone for work. this is bad as all the other symbian nokias support some of it and so could use them.

mikaelh 2010-05-29 17:29

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Yes, provisioning in Mail for Exchange trumps anything else in this thread, for me, as that would allow me to carry only one device during the working day - and EVERY OTHER COMPETITOR DEVICE HAS IT, that I know of.

oved_etzot 2010-05-29 17:57

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
* MFE allowing sync for multiple calenders
(Vote for Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10268)

* Ability to flip songs while Phone is Locked with the camera button.

craftyguy 2010-05-29 21:16

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Considering it was 5 months between 1.1 and 1.2, it should be around fall of 2013 before we see 2.0 :)

euanandrews 2010-05-30 03:02

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 687625)
Software can never update hardware, how can they add 720p recording when the cam is only 5MPs? (actually less than 5MPs due to the size of the lens)

I agree with what your saying, and if it cant be done it cant be done...I know nothing of the specifics on how camera work....but the reason I included it as I have noticed other mobiles with 5MP cameras out there that have 720p video recording....how do they manage to acheive that with their 5MP cameras?

tenkom 2010-05-30 03:09

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Er.. 720p is only about 1 megapixel(1280x720). why would they not be able to do it with a 5mp camera? Heck, they could even do 1080p if that was the only problem. processing power and such things are the real problems.

euanandrews 2010-05-30 03:15

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Exactly
Thats what I am saying...
And as Mohammad even pointed out, the Omnia HD uses the same processor as the N900....
So the camera MP is not the issue, the processor is not the issue...whats stopping an upgrade to 720p or even 1080i?

euanandrews 2010-05-30 03:33

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
Here is an examples of a mobile with 720p video recording, also with only a 5MP camera and using the same processor and graphics chip

Vodafone 360 H1

Radicalz38 2010-05-30 04:01

Re: PR2.0 [Wishlist]
 
the problem is the camera hardware itself. Pictures yes. But video? Its like processing pictures 30x a second so it depends if the camera could handle that much stress.
Also this is a wishlist its not good to say 'bla bla bla is not needed so its ok that it wouldnt be implemented' FYi not all people have the same taste as you. if you prefer that then fine but dont contradict peoples likes if ever a feature is implemented then just dont use it but dont say that its not needed coz some people do.


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