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PradaBrada 2010-05-30 12:37

Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
The Opera keyboard is ****ing perfect, both in landscape and in portrait, not to mention the browser itself, while the Maemo virtual keyboard is ****ing **** and doesn't even support portrait mode.

So is there anyway to get the Opera keyboard as the default virtual keyboard in Maemo?

MOC 2010-05-30 14:00

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
I would love this too. It was a nice surprise to be able to browse without swinging the phone around.

ivnvir 2010-05-30 14:18

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
I always thought N900's virtual keyboard was useless, well, thought also that having virtual keyboard when you have a physical one was useless.
But Opera's keyboard is so cool that it makes me want to have a slimmer cellphone with a virtual keyboard only!

Very well done Opera!

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 14:21

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
So we only need a REAL cool hacker hooking it as main system vkeyboard if possible... Is it possible?

joppu 2010-05-30 14:21

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
It has already been stated by an Opera dev.

No.

kennibal 2010-05-30 14:29

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
That hack is possible using an application just like that of S60's Dayhand Input.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 14:29

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 689867)
It has already been stated by an Opera dev.

No.

No.
Well. What do you mean?
Maemo5 open OS could not be "hacked" to hook another vk?
You couldn't hook another vk?
No-one wants to hook another vk?
"No", is not a very well documented answer when speaking about a full debian distro, I think...

joppu 2010-05-30 14:42

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
I can't find the exact post, but it was stated it wouldn't be doable because the Opera's keyboard is do integrated to the browser and the N900 uses a whole different system for the system wide virtual keyboard.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 14:45

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 689899)
I can't find the exact post, but it was stated it wouldn't be doable because the Opera's keyboard is do integrated to the browser and the N900 uses a whole different system for the system wide virtual keyboard.

For sure you are smart enough to distinguish between algorithm and implementation, and some guys here are skilled enough to implement it as system vk.
Regards.

ToJa92 2010-05-30 14:46

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
You can replace the VKB(there's a handwriting VKB available) but as joppu pointed out the Opera keyboard is built differently from the system-wide keyboard.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 14:50

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToJa92 (Post 689905)
You can replace the VKB(there's a handwriting VKB available) but as joppu pointed out the Opera keyboard is built differently from the system-wide keyboard.

Of course.
But skilled ones can "copy" its behavior and "paste" a new vk.

joppu 2010-05-30 14:53

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 689903)
and some guys here are skilled enough to implement it as system vk.
Regards.

What? If it was so easy to implement a system wide portrait keyboard, why no-one has done it yet? That would be so much easier than trying to implement the opera keyboard, and it's a necessary step in order to even do so (implement the Opera one).

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 689903)
For sure you are smart enough to distinguish between algorithm and implementation.

I think the codebase of the binary data flow subsystem would be inversed in that case.

PradaBrada 2010-05-30 14:58

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
man, I'm willing to bet users would even be willing to pay €1-2 for their vkeyboard if Opera recompiled it as a standalone Maemo vkeyboard app in Ovi Store (LOL Ovi store)

Pair this vkb with the working portrait apps and we are starting to have the real portrait experience Nokia promised back in Dec 09

Seriously, kudos to Opera Maemo devs, you guys rock

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 14:58

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 689918)
What? If it was so easy to implement a system wide portrait keyboard, why no-one has done it yet? That would be so much easier than trying to implement the opera keyboard, and it's a necessary step in order to even do so (implement the Opera one).



I think the codebase of the binary data flow subsystem would be inversed in that case.

... are you Finnish? Sure?

joppu 2010-05-30 15:00

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 689930)
... are you Finnish? Sure?

And this has do what with the topic?

Your arguments are getting stupider and stupider (or should I say "flaming" instead of "arguing"?)

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 15:04

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 689937)
And this has do what with the topic?

Your arguments are getting stupider and stupider (or should I say "flaming" instead of "arguing"?)

Are you insulting me? Must I report you? What kind of arguments are you using?
I'm so disappointed!

joppu 2010-05-30 15:08

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 689949)
Are you insulting me? Must I report you? What kind of arguments are you using?
I'm so disappointed!

... are you Spanish? Sure?

rpgAmazon 2010-05-30 15:15

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 689953)
... are you Spanish? Sure?

Yes! For sure! Look at this:
a) Ole toro!
b) I love paella.
c) Visca Barça.
d) "La lluvia en Sevilla es una pura maravilla"
e) I never worked.
f) I could give you a lot of arguments, but I must go to sleep...

xomm 2010-05-30 15:16

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Can we get back on topic please? It seems like every little insult now-a-days turns into a brawl.

Basically the question now, is how to get a virtual keyboard that allows you to interact with the background while it's still active (a la pre-Fremantle's stylus keyboard).

(And I know the Opera keyboard "port" is not possible. It'll have to be cloned, if anyone bothers.)

gerbick 2010-05-30 15:28

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
No, it's not possible as it stands to take the Opera on-screen keyboard and deploy it for use in Maemo 5.

Straight from Opera's mouth. One more just in case you didn't believe the first one.

It will have to be reproduced, if anything. And so far, nobody has taken that task.

dchky 2010-06-19 06:18

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
The opera keyboard seems to be a cross between the Nokia 5800 and the dayhand thing. Pretty slick for sure, but not ideal.

Dayhand is about the best I've come across only it doesn't integrate itself quite fully within the native UI.

The keyboard itself will be quite easy to code up, but I'm not sure about replacing the built in virtual keyboard, no idea how easy or difficult that would be.

vlg 2010-07-19 15:01

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
Can someone post a screenshot of both keyboards so that those of us who don't own the device can see what the excitement is all about? thnx.

xomm 2010-07-19 16:02

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by vlg (Post 756855)
Can someone post a screenshot of both keyboards so that those of us who don't own the device can see what the excitement is all about? thnx.

Taken on an N800. Shouldn't be any different from the N900.

andrew_85 2010-07-19 16:15

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
this would be great for our phone!!!

ZShakespeare 2010-07-19 16:19

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
I would literally be willing to kill a man (or at least pay a reasonable sum of cash) to have a roughly equivalent system keyboard featuring portrait qwerty and landscape qwerty.

Airtux 2010-09-19 18:28

Re: Opera keyboard as default Maemo virtual keyboard?
 
I request portrait keyboard QWERTY here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...trait+keyboard

It's very important for cell phone!

Please Developers!


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