Over the Air updating and why isn't it used?
 

Hi,

I thought that the N900 is able to get the updates over the air and that would mean that you simply can update without the help of any other device (PC/Mac).
so why isn't this function used in that way? why do i still need another device with the nokia software installed on it, and why does the N900 software update application show me that there is an update which i can't use with the N900 alone?!

cu Assetburned

Re: Over the Air updating and why isn't it used?
 

I had the same problem with OTA not working though the update showed.

Try uninstalling any apps from extras-devel then update, worked for me.

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i don't know what you mean. i updated 1.2 over the air.
the only requirement is that you have a full battery.

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I updated OTA.

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it does get OTA updates... well its meant to.. HAHA

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I've received all updates OTA with no problems whatsoever.

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My OTA upgrade died like this:

Upgrading mp-fremantle-generic-pr 3.2010.02-8 to 10.2010.19-1
apt-worker: free space (/) = 66306048
apt-worker: free space (/home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/) = 28344909824
Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fr...0m5_armel.deb: Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transfered the last 120 seconds
Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fr...0m5_armel.deb: Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transfered the last 120 seconds
Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fr...0m5_armel.deb: Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transfered the last 120 seconds
Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fr...0m5_armel.deb: Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transfered the last 120 seconds
Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fr...0m5_armel.deb: Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transfered the last 120 seconds
required disk space: 118036412

I haven't tried again since I'd like to know what's going on.

Re: Over the Air updating and why isn't it used?
 

ummmm i updated to pr1.2 over the air with no problems... took about 30 minutes for the download and install. I did nothing special. Maybe theres something wrong with your n900?

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I've done all my updates OTA. I have to remove my OpenGLES games and libraries for PR1.2 though.

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assetburned, I had the same question as you when I first tried to upgrade to 1.2, but then I searched around this forum and found that I needed to temporarily disable 'extras' and also uninstall several applications (e.g. brainparty) for OTA to work smoothly.

There is a list of the offending apps around here somewhere.

Obviously Joorin has a more difficult problem, but perhaps that was just a temporary problem with the downloads.maemo.nokia.org server, at least, let's hope it was!

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ok but shouldn't the updater app say that there isn't not enough space or that there is a problem with some apps, instead of suggesting that it doesn't work?

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Joorin lol it is self explanitry the update timed out due to slow speed lol.

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@Joorin:

don't know if you using wifi, but if not i would suggest it. you also can try downloading the .deb manually and putting them in you apt cache folder and then try again.

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I suspect that the operation too slow messages are just another way of saying there isn't enough room.

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@abill_uk, smurfy

If all the other packages were downloaded properly, why would these fail? And yes, I'm using a WiFi connection.

I want to at least try to understand how OTA upgrades work. I did try to go to the same download location with my browser on my stationary computer but was only greeted with a broken certificate and "You're not allowed to view this".

@geneven

28GBytes of space isn't enough?!