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h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 10:19

Reason I sold my N900
 
Low battery life despite the low processor speed and stepping
Maemo stability very poor compared to current phone OSes
Issues with SIM card not detected in slot with no fixes as of now
Fragile mini USB slot
Promise of freedom with linux but the average user can't do more than on any other OS and is actually restricted by the limited number of developpers and clouded by its fanbase
GUI not fluid, stutters most of the time - EVEN WHEN NO APPS ARE RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND
Plastic cover is cheap and seems that the clips are on the brink of breaking everytime I pull it out it to replace the SIM card that is not detected.
SIM card holder is the worst I've seen yet, what a shame Nokia
No true auto-focus when taking pictures unless button manually pressed half way beforehand
Community members mock the average user
Very slow updates from Nokia with none of the needed major changes are brought to the OS that has been ditched.
Update failures in many phones, can turn it into a brick
Windows X64 not supported for manual flashing
Wrong time on received SMS
No official MMS app
GPS software is outdated and is pretty much useless without voice navigation
GPS takes forever to sync with a satelitte unless it uses an internet connection. No such problem with the N95.
Very small choice of applications in both the ovi store and the application manager
Stylus fell off and got lost after 2 weeks
Earpiece volume is very low and the fix is to physically make the hole bigger
Music player is too primitive with no equalizer or good alternative players around, yes i've tried them all.
Setting up Gmail on it is a hassle and is probably not possible
Cheap resistive screen gets scratched very easily unless you buy a screen protector
OVI store still not public and probably never will be
MeeGo ditched, N900 left without a future
Poor wifi performance considering it's "g"
Problems with file transfers over bluetooth
Phone gets very slow after installing more than ~15 applications ( about the whole app store)
Application manager extremely slow in seaching, updating and installing
Can't hard reset unless you accept the major risk of bricking your phone if done wrong, and phone can brick even if done right.
Phone rarely resets when plugging it to the USB slot
Possibly no more major updates
Possibly no more flash 10.1
After months of complaints and threads, Nokia has not fixed most of these issues, if not any, despite the long wait.
Phone is not covered (warranty) in many countries.

rolan900d 2010-06-01 10:25

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Reason you sold the N900....

Not thinking in what you will get or need but showing off a new cell to get in to someone pants....

spanner 2010-06-01 10:27

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
OK, you don't have an N900 any more. We all wish you the best of luck with your new phone.

Some of your points have merit, all of them have been discussed to death already.

Please say goodbye and then STFU.

longcat 2010-06-01 10:28

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
thanks for sharing this useless feedback

zehjotkah 2010-06-01 10:29

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
at least he is now on topic. in the other thread (from which he copy and pasted his post (trolls are getting lazy, huh?!)) he was offtopic.
and following his example I will c'n'p my post too:

Quote:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=673

just in case someone needs this regarding h3llraz0r

btw. he must be some kind of masochist, if he bought the n900 because of that reasons..
btw2. i don't have these problems..

rickysio 2010-06-01 10:29

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
BWAHAHAHAHA!

I've used my N900 without protection for MONTHS, and the screen is flawless! What in the blue blazes are you going on about?
Maemo is rock solid - I've had had it going for three weeks without reboot once and it NEVER crashed. Unlike the iPhone. Unlike the DROID. Unlike the Nexus One, where all three crashed on me much earlier than my N900.
GUI not fluid - excuse me, this is a TRUE multitasking phone. What'd you expect? Want it to be fluid? Exit apps! Or tune transitions.ini for more win.
Community members mock the average user, since these users refuse to wake up and use their brains, often posting the same topic OVER AND OVER AGAIN refusing to search. It won't be that different in the Android world, mon cheri.
No true autofocus bit had me ROFLOL. Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? When did any other phone NOT require a half press? Granted, most HTC phones (Android/WinMo) don't need half press cause they don't even HAVE a hardware camera button! Same for iPhone.
Wrong time on received SMS? Check your settings.
SIM card holder is the worse? Nokia has used the exact same holder in god knows how many phones. WTF are you talking about. The one in my N900 and my 5700XM is the SAME.
Promise of freedom? Having root access from the get go is NOT freedom? Then explain why every single Android device has been rooted - for freedom.
Earpiece volume is very low? Check your ears - even for me who is moderately deaf it's plenty loud.
No good media player alternatives? Have you even TRIED Canola2? Media Box?
Poor wifi performance? What are you on?
Phone slows down after ~15 applications? Stop using experimental apps, if you don't even know what they entail.
Phone is not covered (warranty) - then don't buy export phones. Blame the seller, not Nokia.
Can't hard reset? Check again.

Once again, a troll. We won't miss you - now shoo.

roguespy0 2010-06-01 10:30

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
How many useless threads are you going to start¿ Adding op to ignore list

cardiff-blues 2010-06-01 10:30

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Ok, so you don't like the N900 and have moved on. I hope your new device meets your needs. Thanks for trying the N900 but I think the problem with many users is they want instant gratification.

They want a completely bug free piece of kit and are not prepared to allow some time for the device and its apps to mature. Sure, I am disappointed by the speed or lack of it, for the N900 and the lack of communication regarding updates, etc, but I know if I switched to an iphone or similar - I would get bored after a day or so.

Let's face it - the N900 is an incredible device that can do pretty much anything you want it to without having to buy apps all of the time.

And because of the open source platform the N900 could potentially become an iconic piece of kit and still have the ability to run different OS as and when these clever guys port of program them.

For me, I am not so much seduced by the iPhone app store as I know it will cost me in the long run although I do admit that the eye candy is nice, but realise that the iPhone took a little time to mature as well so I'm inclined to stick with my N900 as it is simply a much better device.

Goodbye, but really - all you guys that are leaving the N900 - there's no need to post your leaving issues. Just move on and thanks for trying it at least. :)

rolan900d 2010-06-01 10:31

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 693372)
at least he is now on topic. in the other thread (from which he copy and pasted his post (trolls are getting lazy, huh?!)) he was offtopic.
and following his example I will c'n'p my post too:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=673

just in case someone needs this regarding h3llraz0r

btw. he must be some kind of masochist, if he bought the n900 because of that reasons..
btw2. i don't have these problems..

You don't need this mate....

Stay the way you are and were....
Helpfull and gentle spirit...

When are you going to update the youtube videos?
Loved those.......

zehjotkah 2010-06-01 10:35

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 693380)
You don't need this mate....

Stay the way you are and were....
Helpfull and gentle spirit...

When are you going to update the youtube videos?
Loved those.......

it's just funny, because he is such a troll ;)
I'm still helpful to nice community members, or new ones, that don't know better (check my recent posts ;))

There will be soon new videos (not today, because I don't have time today).
About Sygic Mobile Maps 10, Rollercoaster Jurassic, Zen Bounds, Buddy.
All the cool stuff...
Have you checked out my new website?
:D

rolan900d 2010-06-01 10:38

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Missed that one...

Will do that now...

Cheers

johnel 2010-06-01 10:40

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Maybe h3llraz0r will finally STFU.

Don't let the door hit you when you leave.

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 10:41

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 693373)
BWAHAHAHAHA!

I've used my N900 without protection for MONTHS, and the screen is flawless! What in the blue blazes are you going on about?
Maemo is rock solid - I've had had it going for three weeks without reboot once and it NEVER crashed. Unlike the iPhone. Unlike the DROID. Unlike the Nexus One, where all three crashed on me much earlier than my N900.
GUI not fluid - excuse me, this is a TRUE multitasking phone. What'd you expect? Want it to be fluid? Exit apps! Or tune transitions.ini for more win.
Community members mock the average user, since these users refuse to wake up and use their brains, often posting the same topic OVER AND OVER AGAIN refusing to search. It won't be that different in the Android world, mon cheri.
No true autofocus bit had me ROFLOL. Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? When did any other phone NOT require a half press? Granted, most HTC phones (Android/WinMo) don't need half press cause they don't even HAVE a hardware camera button! Same for iPhone.
Wrong time on received SMS? Check your settings.
SIM card holder is the worse? Nokia has used the exact same holder in god knows how many phones. WTF are you talking about. The one in my N900 and my 5700XM is the SAME.
Promise of freedom? Having root access from the get go is NOT freedom? Then explain why every single Android device has been rooted - for freedom.
Earpiece volume is very low? Check your ears - even for me who is moderately deaf it's plenty loud.
No good media player alternatives? Have you even TRIED Canola2? Media Box?
Poor wifi performance? What are you on?
Phone slows down after ~15 applications? Stop using experimental apps, if you don't even know what they entail.
Phone is not covered (warranty) - then don't buy export phones. Blame the seller, not Nokia.
Can't hard reset? Check again.

Once again, a troll. We won't miss you - now shoo.




Another reason why Nokia doesn't bother releasing updates and ditches the phone with pretty much a low number of complaints from this example.

I can prove you wrong on so many levels but I don't like feeding stupidity.

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 10:44

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 693398)
Maybe h3llraz0r will finally STFU.

Don't let the door hit you when you leave.


Don't worry, N900s could have a new feature soon: A Solid doorstopper

zehjotkah 2010-06-01 10:45

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 693412)
Don't worry, N900s could have a new feature soon: A Solid doorstopper

Not yours, because you sold it :D :D :D

#fail

jamie721 2010-06-01 10:45

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 693352)


Stylus fell off and got lost after 2 weeks

my favorite line. haha i lost my styles nokia must be s***.

gabby131 2010-06-01 10:48

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
i can do many stuff in different phones, but none of them turned my cheek on the n900 and what it has to offer.

so nice having you here.

filbert 2010-06-01 10:50

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
In case anyone is looking at this thread trying to decide whether or not to buy an N900, I disagree with most of the points listed in the first email. The problems mentioned have *not* been my experience.

I agree that the N900 is not for everyone - but neither is the iPhone.

Rgrds

Peter

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 10:50

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie721 (Post 693417)
my favorite line. haha i lost my styles nokia must be s***.


Another example of how a forum member with lower than average intelligence fails to understand what a design flaw means.

Raubtier 2010-06-01 10:51

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
a lot of what you wrote is flat out untrue...

this user has been trolling the forum ever since and i`m really astonished the mods have not banned him yet..

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 10:52

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 693416)
Not yours, because you sold it :D :D :D

#fail



I sold it to the guy next to you and I bet he agrees with me... right, about... now. :)

johnel 2010-06-01 10:56

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 693412)
Don't worry, N900s could have a new feature soon: A Solid doorstopper

Why don't you use your head - it's dense enough.

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 10:56

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 693390)
it's just funny, because he is such a troll ;)
I'm still helpful to nice community members, or new ones, that don't know better (check my recent posts ;))

There will be soon new videos (not today, because I don't have time today).
About Sygic Mobile Maps 10, Rollercoaster Jurassic, Zen Bounds, Buddy.
All the cool stuff...
Have you checked out my new website?
:D



I think it's cool that you're contributing positively to development of the forums. Sometimes I wish the N900 was not a failure so that I could do the same.

zehjotkah 2010-06-01 10:56

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 693432)
I sold it to the guy next to you and I bet he agrees with me... right, about... now. :)

do you think your father agrees with you? After years of punishment he gave to you? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 693439)
I think it's cool that you're contributing positively to development of the forums. Sometimes I wish the N900 was not a failure so that I could do the same.

so the problem must be you, because I have no problems doing what you want to do.

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 11:00

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 693441)
do you think your father agrees with you? After years of punishment he gave to you? :D



so the problem must be you, because I have no problems doing what you want to do.


rofl

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Venemo 2010-06-01 11:00

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Reason I sold my N900
And why do you think we care?

rolan900d 2010-06-01 11:01

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Well, you sold it so let's get on with it....

Get a new toy and go talk in that forum...

I just don't see the sense in stay around here when you ain't got the N900 anymore

xKamaitachi 2010-06-01 11:03

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Hi my name is h3llraz0r and I made this whole thread to get flamed at because I am simply an idiot with unrealistic desires , no one likes me , and I'm a lonely prick.

I think that is all i read from your first post rofl. If you have nothing good to say about the n900 then just leave and stay quiet, otherwise you really are just a troll who wants to get bashed on.

johnel 2010-06-01 11:04

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
h3llraz0r is the kind of person you never get tired of slapping.

h3llraz0r 2010-06-01 11:17

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xKamaitachi (Post 693451)
Hi my name is h3llraz0r and I made this whole thread to get flamed at because I am simply an idiot with unrealistic desires , no one likes me , and I'm a lonely prick.

I think that is all i read from your first post rofl. If you have nothing good to say about the n900 then just leave and stay quiet, otherwise you really are just a troll who wants to get bashed on.



Your first paragraph is your unconscious speaking about your primary fear in this forum: Not being liked by everyone. That proves that the "Thank you" button is pretty much a tool used to counter anyone who has any complaints against the phone because chances are, thank yous won't be going to people who go against the norm established by Nokia. (which proved to be effective in countering any outcry against it during the downfall of the N900)

rickysio 2010-06-01 11:18

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 693405)
Another reason why Nokia doesn't bother releasing updates and ditches the phone with pretty much a low number of complaints from this example.

I can prove you wrong on so many levels but I don't like feeding stupidity.

Prove me wrong? Please do try - I'm pretty sure you'd enforce my case instead. Try again, troll.

Low number of complains? Try LOOKING at Bugzilla, noob.

Flandry 2010-06-01 11:23

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Guys, let's all be glad he has moved on and do the same. As he is currently unable to respond to your posts, please don't respond to his directly.

johnel 2010-06-01 11:28

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 693502)
Guys, let's all be glad he has moved on and do the same. As he is currently unable to respond to your posts, please don't respond to his directly.

But I had so many witty responses left.

Ok fair enough - maybe locking the thread or deleting it maybe in order?

etuoyo 2010-06-01 11:31

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 693373)
BWAHAHAHAHA!

I've used my N900 without protection for MONTHS, and the screen is flawless!

I think it is a common error made on this website to assume that because something has not happened to me personally it is a problem that does not exist at all.

I got two very very massive scratches on my screen after only a month and that was despite my treating the device with great care. I think it is very widely accepted that the screen is very prone to scratching although it is probably a problem with resistive screens rather than the N900. That reason alone is enough to make me glad that Nokia is moving away from resistive (in addition to the fact that whether people on here choose to admit it or not) capacitive screens are just so much more responsive.

johnel 2010-06-01 11:39

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 693522)
I think it is a common error made on this website to assume that because something has not happened to me personally it is a problem that does not exist at all.

I got two very very massive scratches on my screen after only a month and that was despite my treating the device with great care. I think it is very widely accepted that the screen is very prone to scratching although it is probably a problem with resistive screens rather than the N900. That reason alone is enough to make me glad that Nokia is moving away from resistive (in addition to the fact that whether people on here choose to admit it or not) capacitive screens are just so much more responsive.

They are two different technologies that solve the problem in different ways - One is not necessarily better than the other.

I like resistive-type touch screens because it allows you to use a stylus thus giving you more accuracy - ideal for paint-type packages, photo-retouching.

Capacitive-type touch screens are more receptive and the added benefit of using a solid cover - e.g. glass.

If the n900 was a capacitive-type screen there is the possibility of shattering the screen and still scratching it.

Flandry 2010-06-01 11:40

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 693514)
But I had so many witty responses left.

Ok fair enough - maybe locking the thread or deleting it maybe in order?

Sorry. There are more than enough easy targets around this place; i'm sure you'll find a place to unload them witticisms soon enough.

I would rather not close the thread but will if it seems only the OP himself is the focus of the responses.

On topic: Capacitive certainly can be scratched, but glass is harder than most materials that could be used in resistive screens. I'd still rather have resistive.

gabby131 2010-06-01 11:52

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
the real beauty is in the eye and hands of the beholder......

rickysio 2010-06-01 11:53

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Capacitive can be scratched - and since it IS glass, it becomes much easier to damage by shock than the plastic screen of resistive devices. Glass does have more resistance against scratching, that I'd admit.

etuoyo 2010-06-01 12:11

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 693536)
They are two different technologies that solve the problem in different ways - One is not necessarily better than the other.

I like resistive-type touch screens because it allows you to use a stylus thus giving you more accuracy - ideal for paint-type packages, photo-retouching.

Capacitive-type touch screens are more receptive and the added benefit of using a solid cover - e.g. glass.

If the n900 was a capacitive-type screen there is the possibility of shattering the screen and still scratching it.

Yes agree with that. Comes down to what you use it for. I don't use anything that needs a stylus so would very much have preferred a capacitive screen for better precision and avoiding the scratching issue. The only time I use my stylus is when I have to because of lower touch responsiveness on resistive screens such as when I am playing free cell. Would prefer to use my fingers but keep making errors.

UNderworld 2010-06-01 12:22

Re: Reason I sold my N900
 
reason why i will sell my N900:

ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.
ITS SH*T.


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