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notnarb 2010-06-01 10:26

Meego Tablet Pre-Alpha Preview - now we're talking
 
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/m...blet-hands-on/

http://i49.tinypic.com/kbccc0.jpg

So Intel has shown off a pre-alpha of the tablet version of Meego. This won't be the Meego UI on the next phones, but it seems a lot closer to the phone UI than the netbook OS would be. This should serve as something to wet our taste buds as we wait for the phone UI.

At the time of writing, there is just a somewhat expansive photo gallery of the UI, but a video is promised as soon as it is uploaded.

Edit: Video is up

F2thaK 2010-06-01 10:29

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O.....m.......g.......

EIPI 2010-06-01 10:33

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a 5 incher would be so sweet.

NvyUs 2010-06-01 10:34

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Tablet version looks awesome, wish we did not have to wait 6 months for it

there is a nice gallery full of pictures

tissot 2010-06-01 10:41

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Some noob guestions.
There will of course be support of Qt apps, but is the UI based on Qt like Nokia's Harmattan/MeeGo?

NvyUs 2010-06-01 10:43

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all meego will use Qt

Rugoz 2010-06-01 10:46

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So there is a netbook ux, tablet ux and handset ux?

tissot 2010-06-01 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 693409)
all meego will have Qt

Yes it will have Qt like N8 or N900 after PR1.2, but isn't Intels MeeGo UI based on QTK+ like Moblin?

jsa 2010-06-01 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 693404)
Some noob guestions.
There will of course be support of Qt apps, but is the UI based on Qt like Nokia's Harmattan/MeeGo?

If I had to take a guess, I'd say that UI is based on the MeeGo Touch UI Framework (formerly Harmattan UI Framework). Especially the concept of vertical panes sounds very familiar. No way to be sure yet though.

NvyUs 2010-06-01 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 693421)
Yes it will have Qt like N8 or N900 after PR1.2, but isn't Intels MeeGo UI based on QTK+ like Moblin?

MeeGo 1.0 for netbooks is still based on a lot of moblin but is Qt compatible
i think in MeeGo 1.1 it will move completely to Qt

notnarb 2010-06-01 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 693419)
So there is a netbook ux, tablet ux and handset ux?

http://meego.com/devices/
And a car UX, and a TV UX.

Intel is working on the netbook and tablet ux, while nokia is working on the "media phone" ux AFAIK.

Venemo 2010-06-01 11:04

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Is it just me, or MeeGo is really plain awesomeness?

Would it be possible to use the current MeeGo for ARM build with this UI and boot it up on the N900?

NvyUs 2010-06-01 11:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 693455)
Is it just me, or MeeGo is really plain awesomeness?

Would it be possible to use the current MeeGo for ARM build with this UI and boot it up on the N900?

Even engadget like it and they usually hate everything without a i in front

tissot 2010-06-01 11:12

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Video of the MeeGo tablet looks awesome no matter if the UI is based on Qt or not. :D
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engad...deos/1459/1.28

NvyUs 2010-06-01 11:20

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heres a better 7 minute video
that place engadget uses for video hosting sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVIKY...qI&feature=sub

EDIT
If handset UI is anything like the tablet then there will be a lot of MeeGo devices shipping end of the year.
UI looks so simple but panel mode gives it that bit of power user geekyness

mbo 2010-06-01 11:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 693487)
heres a better 7 minute video
that place engadget uses for video hosting sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVIKY...qI&feature=sub

interesting, he shows multi touch but it's a resistive screen. (6:00min)

bbin 2010-06-01 11:41

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Looks pretty nice! Is it the first device using Stantum's tech?

pyromaniac 2010-06-01 11:50

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oohh .. whens it out ? me want ..

geneven 2010-06-01 11:56

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That thing doesn't look very pocketable.

tissot 2010-06-01 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 693584)
That thing doesn't look very pocketable.

....that's why it's called tablet. :)

bbin 2010-06-01 12:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 693584)
That thing doesn't look very pocketable.

It is a tablet. Days of mids and 5 inch tablets are pretty much over i think. It is either handheld (3.2-4 inch) or a tablet 8-10 inch. I don't think anything over 4 inch is really pocketable. Well okay HD2 sized phone is in the limits :D

Lullen 2010-06-01 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 693455)
Is it just me, or MeeGo is really plain awesomeness?

Would it be possible to use the current MeeGo for ARM build with this UI and boot it up on the N900?

No it is not only you... MeeGo is plain awesomeness!:D

sevla 2010-06-01 12:16

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I'm speechless. Meego looks AWESOME! I hope they get the tablet version out by the end of the year.

THat product they were demoing isn't scheduled till fall 2011? That's wayyy to far out and will be behind the competition by then.

vkv.raju 2010-06-01 12:19

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Simply wow! And this is just pre-alpha. Can't wait enough for a 10+ inch tablet. I hope there will be devices with this OS with Pixel Qi screen technology.

Kangal 2010-06-01 13:08

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Really impressed with fluidity, sensitivity to touch (not your typical resistive), cleaness and especially after that last MeeGo (for netbooks) demo which brought nothing new to the table.
Perhaps MeeGo does have tricks in its sleeve.
And I thought that last demo was the final product, so I started thinking it should've been Nokia-Intel-Ubuntu trio. Actually Nokia is the odd one out, another company like Asus or Nvidia would've made more sense. If Google decided to cancel Chrome and transfer those efforts to MeeGo I think they could wipe Apple and Microsoft to the floor.

Odd_gunnic 2010-06-01 14:50

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Great job for the meego project...windows tablets are looking bloated, and android tablets look like they're meant to be in PMP's not tablets.

Way to steal the show!!! hopefully the handset UX carries on the momentum

teh 2010-06-01 15:31

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Wow. iPad has a challenger ahead there. I'll certainly buy one of these babies!

vvaz 2010-06-01 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbin (Post 693590)
It is a tablet. Days of mids and 5 inch tablets are pretty much over i think. It is either handheld (3.2-4 inch) or a tablet 8-10 inch. I don't think anything over 4 inch is really pocketable. :D

My N800 is pocketable. In cold months I keep it in pockets of trousers or jackets, in summer I put it in backpack or waist bag. It also fits in any car glove compartment or suits internal pocket.

Do these things with 8-10" monsters. With them I have to say goodbye to convergence dreams. Not only I don't have tablet with me anywhere, it also means I need separate camera.

5" (1024x600) phone/tablet with N8 camera for me would be ultimate electronic device.

Laughing Man 2010-06-01 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vvaz (Post 694172)
My N800 is pocketable. In cold months I keep it in pockets of trousers or jackets, in summer I put it in backpack or waist bag. It also fits in any car glove compartment or suits internal pocket.

Do these things with 8-10" monsters. With them I have to say goodbye to convergence dreams. Not only I don't have tablet with me anywhere, it also means I need separate camera.

5" (1024x600) phone/tablet with N8 camera for me would be ultimate electronic device.

With Meego being open (similar to Android) as in installing on numerous platforms. I'm sure one company will make a 4-5 inch tablet. That is unless Android scoops up all the manufacturers.

Odd_gunnic 2010-06-01 16:51

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So will the tablets run on chrome or firefox?

RogerTHAcctant 2010-06-01 17:02

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RESISTIVE!!! WITH MULTITOUCH, hello meego for n900!

convulted 2010-06-01 17:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 693464)
Even engadget like it and they usually hate everything without a i in front

iNtel?

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Texrat 2010-06-01 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbin (Post 693590)
It is a tablet. Days of mids and 5 inch tablets are pretty much over i think. It is either handheld (3.2-4 inch) or a tablet 8-10 inch. I don't think anything over 4 inch is really pocketable. Well okay HD2 sized phone is in the limits :D

I want a 10 inch touch screen tablet so I can sit on my couch, watch TV and do graphics design work.

Looking forward to Inkscape on a MeeGo tablet... ahhhh... :D

wmarone 2010-06-01 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerTHAcctant (Post 694218)
RESISTIVE!!! WITH MULTITOUCH, hello meego for n900!

No guarantees though. There are resistive screens with multi-touch support, but it likely requires hardware support the N900 lacks.

Just have to wait and see.

BatPenguin 2010-06-01 17:19

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That does look pretty good! And pre-alpha: that's only an alpha stage away from normal Nokia release quality, should be out soon!

Seriously though, it does look pretty nice. Hopefully they'll get one of those out pretty soon.

buurmas 2010-06-01 17:41

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Six hour battery life, they said. Not iPad's advertised 10 hours (IIRC), but way better than ExoPC Slate's three hours (thanks to Windows 7).

Why would someone want a tablet with a three hour battery life? When a tablet really rocks is when you can use it all day, like our beloved N8x0s.

I'm not sure how I feel about the UX. A flashy UX is OK with me as long as you don't sacrifice functionality & responsiveness & as long as it doesn't get in the way.

wmarone 2010-06-01 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buurmas (Post 694296)
Six hour battery life, they said. Not iPad's advertised 10 hours (IIRC), but way better than ExoPC Slate's three hours (thanks to Windows 7).

Not bad for x86, for sure. Intel has a long way to go though.

Quote:

I'm not sure how I feel about the UX. A flashy UX is OK with me as long as you don't sacrifice functionality & responsiveness & as long as it doesn't get in the way.
The UI probably needs work, certainly in how the back-end handles long load times and transitions between interfaces. Stuff just "appearing" and rendering partially shouldn't happen, instead fading into a completely rendered interface. But that's all refinements once the system is up and working (but before it goes out on devices.)

Milhouse 2010-06-01 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buurmas (Post 694296)
Six hour battery life, they said. Not iPad's advertised 10 hours (IIRC), but way better than ExoPC Slate's three hours (thanks to Windows 7).

Different generation of hardware - the MeeGo x86 tablet is based on Moorestown while the ExoPC is based on the previous generation Pine View chipset. Not saying Windows 7 isn't responsible for the cr@p battery life, but it's probably not entirely at fault so you can't really compare a Pine View tablet with one based on Moorestown.

Chrome 2010-06-01 18:58

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A new video for the tablet: http://www.viddler.com/explore/engad...os/1459/53.547

Pictures and hands-on: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/m...blet-hands-on/

buurmas 2010-06-01 21:51

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Yep, forgot about the processor.

On a somewhat-related note, here's an article I found interesting that focuses on using the iPad (sorry!), but most of it would apply to the tablet form factor in general and thus most tablets of a similar size.

The author's most consistent complaint is figuring out how to hold it to type. That makes me realize how easy my N810 is to hold & type with my thumbs. But you can't do that with a 10" tablet, right? And it's apparently awkward to put it on your lap or desk and type. The author talks about holding it with his thumbs and typing with his eight fingers. Hmmmm...


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