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maysys 2010-06-03 00:25

Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
I wonder if this could be made to run on the N900 hardware:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/m...computex-hosts

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/m...ial-download-n

Looks like it is compiled for ARM. Device drivers might be tricky, unless there are generic/nonnokia WinCE drivers out there for the N900 hardware set.

I know talking about Windows on N900 is heretical, but the N900 is by definition a device for heretics, so cut me some slack here.

xomm 2010-06-03 01:14

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maysys (Post 696903)
I wonder if this could be made to run on the N900 hardware:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/m...computex-hosts

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/m...ial-download-n

Looks like it is compiled for ARM. Device drivers might be tricky, unless there are generic/nonnokia WinCE drivers out there for the N900 hardware set.

I know talking about Windows on N900 is heretical, but the N900 is by definition a device for heretics, so cut me some slack here.

If it is in fact compiled for ARM, there's a tiny grain of possibility. However, for someone to take the time and write drivers for the N900 for free, I highly doubt.

Maybe using Mer/MeeGo drivers as a reference might speed things up, but again, I highly doubt it.

weirdbeard 2010-06-03 01:19

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
windows on my linux device? Heck NO!

maysys 2010-06-03 01:42

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
That is the orthodox response.

I get the sentiment. But it would be an interesting experiment nonetheless.

imperiallight 2010-06-03 01:43

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
100% arm but not sure what it would offer for at least 2 years.

Caballero 2010-06-03 02:20

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
Here is the download site http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembe...s/default.mspx. I wonder if this version is arm ready?? I will have to dig up my Windows live account now:)

lowtek 2010-07-15 05:15

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
windows wouldn't be as bad as anything from apple....linux would be the ideal (or Utopian as pseudo-philosophers would call it), windows would be the USA and Apple would be Nazi Germany

windows7 2010-07-17 23:59

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
I kind of like the idea.
Linux is great but is only for techies.

wouldn't it be possible to try this out on a vm first???

Microsoft has changed a lot over the years, for example they even acquired sysinternals, and those guys from sysinternals certainly have impacted products like windows 7 & 2008 for the better.

I sense this version, has also been influenced by them.

sophocha 2010-07-18 00:51

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
Plus one vote here! The more OSes we have the merrier!

javispedro 2010-07-18 01:43

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
So, stop talking, get a license (they're free if you, your company or your university is subscribed to MSDN) and start writing the drivers.

There's no impediment other than it being a massive time sink.

kingoddball 2010-07-18 04:03

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
Looks nice.. But its windows.
Just install NITdroid and change the UI.. PandaHome and some themes... Wonderful!

ndi 2010-07-18 20:19

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
There is no such thing as a Linux device, they're all devices.

On the plus side, having Windows on the device would mean good docs, developer support and, best of all, I could write my own apps, finally. Given my experiences this far, I'd rather depend on MS with updates than I would on Nokia. Drivers won't be an issue, I imagine, as the actual chips in there support Windows. Unless Nokia fiddled with something odd (doubtful), I expect no loss of functionality on the transition.

Oh, and games. I don't think 380 games would be bad for me. And office. And iGo. But then again, iGo runs on Windows, W M, W CE, Android and iOS. So, everywhere but here.

Nokia's maps is great, but every now and then I remember I can't save a point on the map and I start thinking "how does a feature like "save" escape a developer, then I realize it's on purpose, then I get mad and frustrated because I can't even buy the full version.

javispedro 2010-07-18 20:30

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 756066)

iGo does have a "Linux" (sorry I don't know more details) internal build of their software, so I ponder why they are not releasing it.

Laughing Man 2010-07-18 20:31

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
My viewpoint is that run whatever you want on the N900. Android, Meego, Maemo, this thing, even iPhone OS if you could get it working. I don't care, InternetTabletTalk's point was never dedicated solely to Maemo. Heck we even had Ubuntu working in a rudimentary way on the n800/n810. My favorite thing about the n800 was the fact I could run KDE on it thanks to penguinbait and everyone. :D

But don't expect others to do the work for you if you really want X. Developers here have different interests, and different motivations so don't think that you can just demand whatever you want around here. You can ask nicely, but if the answer is no, not interested, or no response then there's not much you can do. If you really want it then you can find a developer interested in

a) whatever you want
b) whatever money your willing to pay to do it
c) learn how to program and do it yourself (although some developers may not be interested in what your working on, there are quite a few people on here that are willing to help you learn, answer questions, or even take a look at what you've written and suggest improvements)

Heck, my own personal dream for the N900 is to be able to dual boot as necessary. Boot into a Maemo/dedicated desktop OS for desktop like work. And boot into say Android or whatever for whenever I need a smartphone. :D

Edit: This post may not really fit in here, but it was partially influenced by what I've seen other posters write in other threads. Like "if they weren't planning on finishing it they shouldn't have done it in the first place".

ndi 2010-07-18 20:45

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 756078)
iGo does have a "Linux" (sorry I don't know more details) internal build of their software, so I ponder why they are not releasing it.

Maybe it's Android version. Their FAQ says sorry, no Linux version. No other details. I wish I understood why I can't run apps over various distributions, with a little help. Oh well, at least it's as ugly as ours.

horus 2010-07-18 20:48

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
The version that you download from Microsoft is just the new version of Windows CE. I was playing with it earlier this month. Those pretty pictures you see in the Engadget report, that OS doesn't come with the download and you must develop that yourself.

Nevertheless, it's quite a sophisticated piece of software development kit. You are able to choose what type of media device your targeting, the screen size, what type of network ports is going to be on, the processor type (supports all things from ARM to Texas Instrument) and a heap of other cool stuff.

chucknorris 2011-03-04 12:10

Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
Now that microsoft has released ce 7 will it be possible to install it on n900..? coz it supports arm devices..(arm a8 included)

and wp7 is based on ce7 core..so which means it is definitely possible to install it on our n900. Nokia is definitely moving ahead with wp7..so from a developers point of view i would be happy if i could get this thing installed on my n900!

jedi 2011-03-04 12:12

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
Surely Chuck Norris would know how to use the 'search' feature?!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63472 etc

chucknorris 2011-03-04 12:27

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
lol...chuck norris just found out the community's link finder...u post somethin jedi finds the link for ya..!! and please dont teach chuck norris.. :D
and next time u search for the topic search properly. window ce 7 is not same as wp7!!

jedi 2011-03-04 12:33

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chucknorris (Post 960500)
lol...chuck norris just found out the community's link finder...u post somethin jedi finds the link for ya..!! and please dont teach chuck norris.. :D
and next time u search for the topic search properly. window ce 7 is not same as wp7!!

Errr, no - YOU want it, YOU search for it. Maybe then YOU will find relevant stuff.

Here's another link for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Windows+Embedded+Compact+7+on+n900

chucknorris 2011-03-04 12:40

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
aww...the link finder is back with another link! :D

arora.rohan 2011-03-04 12:43

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
OMG
Its the battle we have been waiting for
on one side...
Master of the Force : JEDI !

and on the other side...
Chuck Norris! : Master of everything else.

travla 2011-03-04 12:45

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chucknorris (Post 960518)
aww...the link finder is back with another link! :D

LOL. Too funny.

Captwheeto 2011-03-04 16:50

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????
 
Excessive question marks: [x]
Talks like an idiot: [x]
can't work basic utilities [x]

I bet you can't wait for Windows on your phone!

sjgadsby 2011-03-04 16:53

Re: Windows Embedded Compact 7
 
The thread "Windows Embedded Compact 7 on n900????" (8 posts) has been merged into this thread.


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