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vicegerent 2010-06-05 12:09

Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
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Guys,

I am unable to upload my N900 to the lastest version.

It shows in my apps manager to download but when I do so, it says to connect to the PC using nokia PC Suite software and download using that software.

However, when I connect to the Nokia PC Suite software and try to update via the "software updater" it gives the message saying your phone already has the latest update.

For details please see the attached screenshot.

Can anyone advice how I can update my phone to latest PR 1.2 version or whatever it is?

Thanks for your help.

matts76 2010-06-05 12:19

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
you need to clear out your rootfs to do the ota update i think you need about 58mb free, otherwise you can use the flasher utility if you do a power search there are plenty of guides.

vicegerent 2010-06-05 13:01

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Thanks for this info I just checked my rootfs and it shows 23.6 MB free.

How do I clear the root fs? How do I get the flasher utility?

cpitchford 2010-06-05 13:21

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
It isn't space.. you don't need 58meg.. you need about 40 (I think the limit from the deb info is about 35meg).. the problem is very often dependencies..

remove stuff like gltron, tomatoes, wikitune, tux racer, stuff like that..

you need to remove all packages that rely on libgles1 (because it relies on libgles1-sgx-img which has a hard requirement for opengles-sgx-img-common)

Plus you need to remove packages that are eating your root space.


I upgraded with 43meg of root space free.. dependencies are usually the problem

peace_man 2010-06-05 14:18

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Hi,

i have deleted sevral app's and got 46.3 MB on rootfs
but still can not update

what to do?

Thanks
Or

cpitchford 2010-06-05 14:22

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
you've not removed the app (or apps) that are causing the problem.. See this post on the Nokia forum.. I've refered many users to this and practically all have had upgrade success:

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/.../692307#M11170

vicegerent 2010-06-05 14:25

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
I am not sure what to do but I had removed some applications like Firefox which had 9+ MB and there was another supporting application from Mozilla for firefox that was 28MB so I removed them both.

I also removed the Go To Viewer (Document Viewer) software which was taking about 9MB or so.

However, when I checked the space in rootfs at the command line it still showed that the free space was only 23MB as before... and actually it was a few 100kb lesser after I performed these uninstallations.

When I checked it with Disk Checker utility, it also showed the same 22.4 MB free space left.

As I was reading to update software from command line by following the Flasher 3.5 update so I forgot about the checking disk space and followed the instructions given here

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/tips/software-update/

It says switch of your N900 then press and hold the "U" key on the device and connect the device with USB to the PC. I did that and it says as long as you can see the USB cable on the top right hand side screen of your device it means the phone is in flashing mode. As I saw the USB Icon on the top right hand side of my N900 screen I have run the commands.

In the center it also shows the NOKIA name while it shows the USB on the top right hand corner.

The instructions say after 4min it should re-start your phone with an updated firmware. However, its been more than 4 mins and on the screen it still has NOKIA name in the middle and the USB icon on the top right hand corner.

It hasn't restarted yet. So what do I do now if it remains the same after a few more mins?

cpitchford 2010-06-05 14:29

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
did the flasher command complete sucessfully? that is much more important.. if flasher said it finished sucessfully, unplug the phone, turn it off then back on

vicegerent 2010-06-05 14:31

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
how do I check if the flasher command completed successfully? I am preparing screenshots of the command window.. will post here soon

cpitchford 2010-06-05 14:34

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
doesn't it say "completed successfully" at the end?
http://chris.intrepid.cx/N900/linusb...sblinux-07.png
?

vicegerent 2010-06-05 14:37

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
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After I executed the command line as shown in the first screenshot, system ran several lines at once (all of them within a second) and stopped at the list line which can be seen in the 2nd screenshot.

However, it has been more than 15mins now but the phone hasn't restarted.

I can still see the NOKIA name in the middle and USB icon on the top right hand corner of the screen on my N900

cpitchford 2010-06-05 14:39

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
no.. that's bad.. it's not finished running..

This could be a windows problem.. I'd unplug and turn off your phone (pull the battery out for 2 minutes too) and restart your PC and try again

vicegerent 2010-06-05 14:39

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cpitchford (Post 701114)
doesn't it say "completed successfully" at the end?
http://chris.intrepid.cx/N900/linusb...sblinux-07.png
?

No, as you can see in my screen shots, it doesn't shows that about flasher completing succesfully... (pls see second screenshot in my previous msg)

vicegerent 2010-06-05 14:40

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
before I try again, after unplugging the device.... shall I restart my fone to check if its still working with the current settings as it was previously?

cpitchford 2010-06-05 14:42

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
You could.. but it's possible it will be in an inconsistent state.. I think you've rather committed yourself to flashing, now..

vicegerent 2010-06-05 14:43

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
ok but what if this windows XP SP3 gives the same problem again?

cpitchford 2010-06-05 14:47

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Windows XP seems to work better.. but the alternative is to boot Linux from a USB stick.. this avoids using windows at all.. I've pretty much only ever heard of flashing problems on windows..

Macs and Linux generally seem great..

If you have a 2Gig usb stick kicking about, you could try these instructions I put together..

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/.../693460#M11588

That'll let you flash your phone by booting from the USB stick.. It's seriously easier than trying to fix windows issues, imho

vicegerent 2010-06-05 15:00

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Hmm,... I lost my USB stick at work so only option I have now is do it via laptop that has XP SP3.

Also, when I connected the USB cable by pressing and holding the 'U' key on the phone, on my laptop it recognized the phone device but said the device did not get connected properly and might not work properly.

However, as the instructions on the flasher update said that as long as you see the USB icon on the top right hand corner of your phone it means the phone is in flashing mode so I went ahead with command prompt...

I will restart my PC and give it another try.

Hope it will work ok this time.

Thanks for your advice cpitchford.

vicegerent 2010-06-05 15:07

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
I just restarted my laptop now.

Also, i have rebooted my phone as of now it looks fine... I dont know if it will surprise me later lol

using disk checker utility I also checked the free space in rootfs and its only 23.4MB left.

So how do I create more space in rootfs before I retry to upgrade firmware?

vicegerent 2010-06-05 15:16

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
I deleted quite a few programs and now I have also deleted Tuxrace, still when I check the rootfs (both using command prompt and DiskCheck utility) it sill shows free space as 22.4MB and used space as 200MB (90%)

Why doesn't it updates the free space as I have deleted quite a few programs and also the game.

Rob1n 2010-06-05 15:54

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vicegerent (Post 701170)
I deleted quite a few programs and now I have also deleted Tuxrace, still when I check the rootfs (both using command prompt and DiskCheck utility) it sill shows free space as 22.4MB and used space as 200MB (90%)

Why doesn't it updates the free space as I have deleted quite a few programs and also the game.

Most programs don't use much rootfs space - the bulk is installed to /opt instead. Generally rootfs space gets used up by libraries, so it's only when you've uninstalled all programs using a library that the space can get freed up.

vicegerent 2010-06-05 16:22

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 701215)
Most programs don't use much rootfs space - the bulk is installed to /opt instead. Generally rootfs space gets used up by libraries, so it's only when you've uninstalled all programs using a library that the space can get freed up.

Dude how do I uninstall using library? could you guys please advice.

I checked the rootfs again it still shows same 22MB free space even though I have removed apps and games worth over 80-90MB`

cpitchford 2010-06-05 16:28

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_man (Post 701088)
Hi,

i have deleted sevral app's and got 46.3 MB on rootfs
but still can not update

what to do?

Thanks
Or

I think you just sent me your debug.tgz file?

If so, you need to uninstall these packages:

teeworlds
brainparty
gltron

Then you should be able to upgrade

peace_man 2010-06-05 16:34

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cpitchford (Post 701099)
you've not removed the app (or apps) that are causing the problem.. See this post on the Nokia forum.. I've refered many users to this and practically all have had upgrade success:

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/.../692307#M11170

hi,

i did it and sent you the mail...

cpitchford 2010-06-05 16:37

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
It was you!! i keep getting debug files with the original user's name in the subject!! ha :)

See my last post, hopefully that should fix your upgrade jam

vicegerent 2010-06-05 16:43

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
cpitchford,

Any advice on this? I uninstalled Tuxrace but it still shows free space as only 22MB in my rootfs

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicegerent (Post 701247)
Dude how do I uninstall using library? could you guys please advice.

I checked the rootfs again it still shows same 22MB free space even though I have removed apps and games worth over 80-90MB`


cpitchford 2010-06-05 16:53

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
vicegerent:

Open these two links on your phone
http://chris.intrepid.cx/N900/debug.sh
http://chris.intrepid.cx/N900/diskspace.sh

Save BOTH files into the Documents folder on your phone..

Open an X terminal and run

sh MyDocs/.documents/debug.sh

Wait for it to finish.. it will take AGES

Then run:

sh MyDocs/.documents/diskspace.sh MyDocs/debug.tgz


This will show you a table..

The first column is the package
The second is how much rootfs space that package is using
The last column is how much emmc space that package is using

The largest rootfs space users appear at the top..

That might give you a clue as to which packages you need to remove..

If you follow the debug link I posted earlier, I can help you more (it involves sending me the debug.tgz file)

peace_man 2010-06-05 17:20

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Thanks man.
the device got unjamed :)

cpitchford 2010-06-05 18:26

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
/facepalm... welcome to the conversation :)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=701019&postcount=4

vicegerent 2010-06-06 02:41

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Hi cpitchford,

I didn't had to do anything. I just checked the link you have posted from Nokia forums.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpitchford (Post 701099)
you've not removed the app (or apps) that are causing the problem.. See this post on the Nokia forum.. I've refered many users to this and practically all have had upgrade success:

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/.../692307#M11170

In that thread Paulfp said he also faced problem with not enough memory and disabled extras-devel and extras-testing.

So I did the same too and once I disabled these two the rootfs memory shot upto 43mb (or 46mb) and voila I manage to download the firmware direct on N900 itself without having to connect to the PC and it has installed successfully!

bunanson 2010-06-06 04:36

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
Boy, what a suspense, like cliffhanger! Happy endings. Thanks for posting the results, others can benefit from it.

bun

Canada 2010-06-06 16:49

Re: Unable to update my nokia to latest version. Please advice?
 
This was way too easy and dumb at the same time. Disabling extra's and extra devil allowed me to get the update. Guess I will be doing that for every update. Here I was about to go about doing it the hard way.


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