Smartphone market share for USA market
 

I've been watching this forum for a long time. I admitted I bought the N900. I bought it because I knew the Nokia brand. However I was wrong. This phone is piece of s... Just accepted it!. N900 is a failure. Nokia can't compete in USA market.

Oh btw here is the market share. http://gizmodo.com/5556346/iphone-os...-share-for-now

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no wonder, the N900 is too smart for americans

Re: Losers look at this!!!
 

lmao :D:D

Re: Losers look at this!!!
 

Hmmm, that's why the phone says "disconnect charger from power supply to save energy " when I disconnect from the power supply.

Re: Losers look at this!!!
 

seriously whos afraid about this?i mean im happy that not every stupid child have an n900.everybody who have a n900 knows that this isnt a phone for everybody.and im happy with it.......

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I'm not happy with it So what? I just say what I feel about the phone. I also told that I bought this phone just because of the name, Nokia. But compare to other phones, it's BS. You may have lower expectation for $500 phone but I f@#$ have higher ones. It needs to be very close to perfect but it's not even close to a phone.

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Hcancelik, since u hate it so much, can i buy it off ya for 100$? u're just gonna throw it into corner arent ya? I think it deserve a better owner who treat it the way it should be treated LOL

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it is so funny!

you bought a +400$ device and did not a single google search for it?

This is my second nokia device, my first was a normal phone back in 2003. I bought the n900 with no care of market share or anything but the reviews I read and the info I got from forums all about it.

If I had build up my knowledge up on commercials I would had bought an iPhone!

What is this "blame nokia" behaviour helping anyone here? This is a community forum!

I am sure nokia knows about their market share better than gizmo. I don't care what the company behind my phone does as long as it is the hardware I want with the software I want!

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:) actually I'm sellting it for $350. Would you like to buy? It comes with extra wall charger and car charger. But I have to be honest.

- It restarts everytime you turn on the paired bluetooth headset.
- You have to click multiple times (more than 5 times) on a link inside the emails.
- You have to click play button again and again to listen any online radio station.
- you have to wait at least 2 minutes to open single f@#$ email
- you have to hold to phone very steady. If you aim it little bit the phone app opens (if you set so)
- you won't get any app support
- I can go more if you want.

would you still buy?

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I did do google search? What should I search for? Piece of **** phone that nokia makes but it doesn't work?

This is my second nokia device too. Don't you f@#$ read. I said I bought it because of the Nokia brand. I trusted them because I though they were behind their sh@#$. I'm not blaming this community or anyone else because this is on all Nokia.

I'm not trying to help anybody here. Like you said this is community forum and I'm sharing my experience.

that data is not from gizmodo. Read the whole f@#$% article.

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the only merit in this thread is the use of the misleading title. The OP knew it would cause otherwise disinterested members to read his drivel, rather than just consign yet another pointless whine to the "ignored" corner, where it belongs..

What an evil genius ... If only he would use his superpowers for good!

Oh, and with America's record on energy consumption (along with every other natural resource on the planet), I don't think it's too unreasonable for the phone to nag him into removing the charger from the wall socket after use - though admittedly, having it auto-disable this based on GPS/Locale for less 'gas guzzly' countries would be a great enhancement :-)

Mods - please change thread title to somethign suitably boring ...

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no need to change the title if posters here actually comment about the market share and not start another whine-fest

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The only merit you should get this thread is how N900 or Nokia suck in the USA market.

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I know this thread is going to close soon so I bought www.n900sucks.com
I'm going to update that website soon.

I asked for assistance from Nokia twice, and all I got crap. So I'm going to keep this as long as I can.

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I'm glad that nokia isn't aimed to US market so it can keep higher level of complexity(you know, in developed countries complex means better). Anyway, it's funny how americans simplify everything so much that it's on the edge of usability/unusability. Enjoy your IPhone

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Don't talk like looser. America is not an developed country? You only fool yourself man.

Btw I'm not American at all. I grow up in Europe. This is not about Europe or America. Why are you guys are so f@#$% close minded?

I'm not an iPhone fun either. I actually switch from iPhone to N900. But guess what? They have better service, They have solid working phone. They have support. Plus they know what they are doing. I should have stayed with them. That's my bad.

Now I actually believe that my first title was appropriate. But for some reason it changed.

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Sure it isn't. Look at european society - enlightened and educated, Americans with their outlooks taken from XIX century look funny. Remember, advanced weapons aren't measure of development.

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That 2% is for Symbian. The N900 is NOT factored into this chart, if it was, it would say Maemo and not linux.

Lets go even further: IF Linux = Maemo, how would you expect Maemo to have a large market share? The US cell market is driven by cheap carrier subsidized phones. Any OS or device that you can get on contract for $200 or less that has great marketing will have great market share. The MORE devices like that with said OS, the more market share.

Where does the N900 fit in that chart, NO WHERE! It isn't cheap and it is NOT on a US carrier or subsidized.

That is why Symbian has 2% as well. Only 3 Symbian carrier phones come to mind. 2 on *ATT (E71x and Surge) and 1 on T-Mobile (Nuron). I will venture to say that the 2 percent market share is MOSTLY Nokia Nurons as it has sold well.

Nokias US market share is going up, starting with the Nuron and next the E73 Mode. It will be $69.99 on contract when released. UNTIL it is released, to get a similar E series will cost the American consumer $300-500 unlocked and Americans will NOT pay that. But at the contract price, thousands will be sold and Nokias market share WILL improve.

Atlast, the amount of sales doesn't make a phone great. It is determined to be great before it comes off the assembly line. My N82 is a great phone and my N900 is a great mobile computer. User opinions may vary, hardware does not.

I hope you find the device and market share that is right for you.

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It's not factored but it's not even there. I didn't expect to have a large market share. I didn't even care about it. I just wanted a good cellphone (as advertised) or something better than others (since I paid over $500) The N900 doesn't fit anywhere in the chart. That's what I'm saying. but I don't understand the part why people are here got too obsessed when someone says N900 sucks. Why just you people accept that?

Nokia shares will not be go up anywhere in USA market with this competition. Like you said users opinions may vary but the fact is not.

Again, I don't really give a sh@# about the market share. (I posted that data because of some damn a@# here)

Thank you. I hope I'll find one and I hope I'll warn people who thinks to buy this phone.

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End of, matey.
You "just wanted a good cellphone". So that would be why you bought a device that is not marketed as a cellphone and whose primary function is not as a cellphone.
Fail.

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Let's see.
-I do not have bluetooth headset so I can't comment much on this one. Have you searched forums and maemo's bugzilla? From what manufacturer and model your headsets are. Also remember that there is quite many users using n900 happily with their bluetooth headsets.

- Have you calibrated your screen? I do not have this problem. Did you have this problem from day one?

- I do not have to tap play button many times to listen online radio. Once and it starts buffering and after a while it starts playing.

- N900 email client is horrible, but i do not have to wait for 2 minutes for mail (maybe 10 seconds most). People here say that nokia messaging is faster.

- RTFM and change phone apps settings.

- What you mean that you do not get app support? Try official support forum:
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...ces/bd-p/maemo

- Please tell more because actually you haven't told much.

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First, why you thought that after you have find that it doesn't fullfill YOUR needs you have to come here and make pretty empty comments about why it sucks. Could you please try to describe and analyze with facts why it sucks. Now you are just ranting and it's just waste of everybody's time.

And about accepting. I know that quite many grown up people get nervous when someone just comes to comment movie, book, car or anything else by saying it sucks. "Normal" people expect that you make your point by analyzing and describing why something sucks so bad in your opinion.

You do not care about shares and you made thread with this title? As*clown of the year title might be actually yours!

Warning people and telling them about your experiences is good but dear god try to tell them why it didn't fit your needs. Do not rant. Nobody likes to listen when someone goes to monologue about bad experiences and keeps telling actually how they failed to use device and read manual.

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The N900 doesn't suck for me but I understand that it may for other people. That is why I dont recommend it to my friends and family that are looking for a good cell phone. I have recommended my wifes HD2 or my daughters Nurons or my friends Iphones and all those other phones. I don't have a problem with recommending other devices or with anyones dissatisfaction. I recommend the N900 to techies who are less concerned with the smartphone aspeect and more concernd with the mobile computer aspect.

Example: I had 3 Samsung Memoirs, expecting the picture, video and audio to live up to the marketed hype. It didn't, FOR ME. 3 returns later, I am very cautious to buy Samsungs due to my horrible hardware experience. The phone may be fine for others though and I cant say it sucked, just my expectations were too high.

We all must feel like our money is well spent and only you know what will get you to that point. If I had an extra 350, I would buy it from you and give it to a friend who really wants one for mobile computing but is on a carrier budget.

My N900 upsets me with call glitches but oh well....that wasnt the main feature that I bought it for so all is well that ends well.

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Guys, despite the thread title implying some 'serious' discussion it's just another whine post. We've been over this before many times. There's people who love the n900 and there's people who don't.

We can discuss for hours and prove people wrong about things that are not working on their phones, but in the end what's the gain? NONE.

Stop taking part in these pointless threads, enjoy your phone, or don't. Your call. There's better things to do out there than to discuss something completely non-constructive on maemo.org.

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hcancelik dude, you need to read carefully so that you won't be disappointed.

Your statement "Don't talk like looser. America is not an developed country?". Well USA is indeed, a DEVELOPED country since she has reached her Apex. you are confusing the term DEVELOPing countries which are countries in the process of developing their economic base.

Nokia's created the smartphone market. All Symbian phones have set the benchmark for smartphones. I know for sure you have not owned a Nokia Symbian phone as you stated because you would known the true meaning of smartphone. Nokia never advertise the the N900 as a smartphone, but portable computing device (i.e MiD)


The USA did not even know what are smartphones until the iPhone was quoted to be a smartphone. And believe it or not the iPhone is still not a smartphone yet because it cannot provide some basic smartphone features which are standard in Nokia phones.

i.e. a short list

1)Multitasking
2) High resolution camera above 5 MP
3) Front camera for Video calling
4) Ability to transfer vcard, images, video or any files via bluetooth
5) Set an Alarm clock and turn off the phone, then phone will activate the alarm ontime while it is off and give you the option to turn on the phone
6) builtin SIP/VoIP capability in all E and N series phones to allow calling over the internet with bot WiFi and 3G
7) Fully integrated contacts with all form of telephony and social network.


The RIM/Blacberry definitively was not a smartphone it was just an email point to point to exchange messages device since the concept of SMS did not exist in USA because service providers in the USA did not have a network to perform the task until 2003. Now SMS ( so call TEXTing) is possible in USA, therefore RIM changed the market plan by trying to be a smartphone vendor in 2005. Check their phone specification you will see not until

USA for a DEVELOPED country still cannot provide 3G coverage. Only t-Mobile is trying to deply true UMTS WCDMA/3G capabilities. All the other carriers are just providing EDGE in steroid.


All Nokia phones can be paired and perform those exchanges and it is rudimentary in those devices.

Since you are in the USA, you should get a Verizon phone since it allows you to do one thing at the time and you can only use the phone in the USA. While you in the VZ store tell them an iPhone to go...


Since you have not been outside the USA, you would not have known people around the world buy any phone they want a CHOOSE the best service provider for their need. Unlike USA, you must select a provider, then select a phone from their lists a phone you are force to like. This is what USA call freedom of choice within the realm of the providers.

Indeed Nokia will not be strong in the USA because the providers require the subscriber to buy a phone in order to subscribe and lock you into 2 plus year contract. If the consumers are not smart enough to demand the ability to bring their own phone to simply get a SIM card from the providers to start using their personalized phone which may have been purchased anywhere in the world.


Face it dude, the USA is behind in the mobile phone market.


gianni_mar said best. The Nokia Phone are too smart for you and Gizmo/Nielson because you can only do one thing at a time.


The Nokia phone and a specially N900 rocks for free thinkers of the world !!!


Nokia is the Mercedes and BMW of the mobile phone market. A phone to fit every life style...

Dude when you want a smartphone you can get RIM/Blackberry or an iPhone. But when you need an intelligently designed mobile device you get a Nokia



This message was sent from a Nokia N900....

Re: Smartphone market share for USA market
 

Then why did you link to a survey that is exclusively based on US data, and does not even mention the rest of the world (rest assured, Symbian is not 2% in a global view) ?

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Nokia is a brand that caters to Third World Countries. Nokia can never compete in USA. the only phones Nokia can sell in USA are pennies.

the N900 experience that OP describes here is not in isolation. NOKIA have great hardware, but their software lags big time

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BigBadGuber!

You definitive has been outside the USA. read my previous post to learn something about the world. The world is BIGGER than the 50 states....

Nokia is designed devices for the world

here is the world view of smartphones

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10438790-1.html

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>> We can discuss for hours and prove people wrong about things that are not working on their phones, but in the end what's the gain? NONE.

Oh What BS

How are new perspective buyers supposed to know what are the downsides of the n900 if the negative points are not mentioned ?

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BigBadGuber!

You definitive has been outside the USA. read my previous post to learn something about the world. The world is BIGGER than the 50 states....

Nokia is designed devices for the world

here is the world view of smartphones

http://stats.getjar.com/statistics/

Re: Losers look at this!!!
 

It means disconnect the charger from the plug (not the phone from the charger). Plain english. I guess if you don't get it then you don't get it :rolleyes:

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How disappointing, I was hoping to get some more info on the actual market share. Thanks to the few who actually posted information pertinent to the topic.

By the way, the market share in the USA is skewed greatly because of the subsidized phone idea that service providers push onto the consumer. As a resident of the states I was happy to by my N900 and use it and not have to renew a contract or get a phone loaded with bloatware.

Just an FYI: http://stats.getjar.com/statistics/ This link is based on the market share of phones that are actually being used for mobile data and browsing. Check the link at the bottom for how they get their data.

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KD_alex, you are correct...

Here are other articles from Gartner and otherstake a look:


http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1306513


and here is another static

http://gigaom.com/2010/03/18/the-mobile-os-market/

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The N900 is not an easy phone to obtain in the US. If you bought one not knowing its limitations it is your fault, not the phone's or Nokia's. But you are not coming off too bright here, so...poor you. Sell it and move on. Whining will get you no where.

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Wow, so not only are you dumb for not doing your research on the device but your excuse (because that's what it is) about buying the phone based solely on the fact that you bought a Nokia before is inexcusable and ridiculous. To take that a step further it's also apparent that you're too dumb to reflash or even send it away to be fixed. So, while you're rolling along on that train of ignorance, sell your device, shut your mouth and quit embarrassing us Americans even further with your nonsense and whining....

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Good finds ypslinux. I am glad to see that Windows Mobile's OS share is dropping. I hated using it so much on my old HTC.

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These threads are like hydras... chop one down and two more pop up.

Disgruntled with your purchase? There's a return period that's longer than a day. Should have returned it and avoided buyer's remorse.

Disgruntled with these kinds of posts... then ignore it folks. Nothing makes this forum uglier than seemingly folks ready to attack all that disagree.