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apcoelho 2010-06-08 22:16

Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Tired of seeing posts about people saying they will change to iphone, the door is wide open but donīt forget this list of simple stuff Iphone should do and it doesnīt, and N900 does:

I want to send a mp3 file over bluetooth ... oh wait ... i canīt
I want to download a file from a webpage to keep it on my cellphone... oh wait... I canīt
I want to attach a MP3 file to an email so I can send it to my friends.... oh wait... I canīt
I want to make a SIP call from my phone ... oh wait .... I can, but I have to open the SIP software before...
I want to make a video call to my friends computer .... Oh wait... my friend has to have an Iphone 4g ...
I want to have another browser I donīt like mine ... oh wait... I canīt
I have an "non 3g Ipad" and I want to connect to the internet through my iphone... oh wait ... I canīt
I want use my iphone as a 32 or 16gb Pen Drive... oh wait ... I canīt
I want to customize my desktop to my needs ... oh wait... I canīt and my grandpaīs iphone Is almost the same config as mine...
I want widgets so I can quicky access essencial Info... oh wait ... I canīt
I want to see the adress of one company but their site is made in flash technology... oh wait ... I canīt
I only want to be online everytime it detects wifi, my carrier doesnīt have a great data plan... oh wait... I canīt
I want to be able to delete data from the phone memory... oh wait ... I canīt, have to do it from Itunes...
I want to play videos on my phone without having to convert them... oh wait... I canīt
I need subtitles on my videos ... oh wait... I canīt
A friend on mine wants to see jizzhut or porntube videos online ... he canīt ... and he shouldnīt...


As you can see Iīm not talking about Gyroscopes, multitouch and other fancy stuff, Iīm talking about simple things.
If I left my N900 to an iphone I would miss this and much more.


Iīm talking about a standard iphone , anyway, 90% of this stuff not even jailbroken...


I love my N900 but lets face it ... itīs not perfect, has some flaws depending on the needs of its user. Its like buying a Ferrari and say its too noisy or uncomfortable, for that kind of customer you have a Mercedes S500... but will have its flaws too, it wonīt be quick and sporty enough .... Nothing is perfect for everyone.

slappy 2010-06-08 22:33

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
i want to listen this new song in my car stereos, no wait I cant, I dont have fm sender.

quipper8 2010-06-08 22:36

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I want to buy my phone unlocked without a contract... oh wait ... I canīt

clasificado 2010-06-08 22:36

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
let me guess... another off-topic thread, in the general section

T-unit 2010-06-08 22:37

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
@Slappy Rephrase that "I have to buy a FM transmitter"

I want to multi-task oh wait which apps did apple say I could do this with? Oh I think this one... Oh sh*t where did my business paper go!

quipper8 2010-06-08 22:38

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I want to be always chat available online with gtalk, msn, facebook, work jabber server, skype, aim, and yahoo... oh wait ... I canīt

T-unit 2010-06-08 22:38

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Life must be dandy when you can buy a phone and let the phone company (not the carrier) tell you what you can and can't do. I am glad I have an n900

quipper8 2010-06-08 22:39

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I want to use syncml for my integrated calendar and tasks and notes... oh wait ... I canīt

ysss 2010-06-08 22:40

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maxximuscool 2010-06-08 22:40

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 706237)
I want to buy my phone unlocked without a contract... oh wait ... I canīt

Yes you can :D This part you surely can without locked down :D

Come to New Zealand you can buy iPhone fully Provider unlocked. Which can we worked with all other carriers.

quipper8 2010-06-08 22:40

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I want to swap my photo and video storage between phones using removable media... oh wait ... I canīt

gerbick 2010-06-08 22:40

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Do you guys really even need to start threads like this? I mean... for each positive point you've listed, I'm sure it will take just one disgruntled person - N900 owner or not - to respond and next there will be some hyper-nerd fight over which offering is best.

Different needs, different products. That's the summation of this entire thread in four words.

T-unit 2010-06-08 22:41

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You guys are missing the point... They get as far as oh wait I can't then the next time they see an apple logo they forget about it.

Got another one.

I wish everything was integrated... Oh great shiny worthless app just got released... Let me get my wallet...

maxximuscool 2010-06-08 22:41

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
One thing that iphone can't do is:

Let me sync more than one MS exchanger email accounts. Opps I can only handle one :D hahahha

pantera1989 2010-06-08 22:44

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Another iphone hate thread..seems as common as N900 hate thread. Instead of posting garbage like that in these threads why not try to be useful and help others, or post ideas etc.

Just to be clear. I don't hate the iphone. I hate Apple. Totally different.

ysss 2010-06-08 22:45

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
It'd be a fairly good diss/parody if the whole thing doesn't simply sound so.... bitter....

rmerren 2010-06-08 22:46

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I want to look at my phone sitting on the desk and know if I have any emails, text messages, or instant messages waiting...iCant. (Love me the little blue light!)

I want to ssh into my phone to transfer music or files on or off....iCant

imperiallight 2010-06-08 22:47

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Half of your points are old and outdated from like generation 1 of the iphone, the other half work with JB (which you probably don't agree with even though you are on a Maemo board).

And yes there is no Flash support on the iphone.

Only the point about the widget is of note and I think you can do this on JB.

imperiallight 2010-06-08 22:48

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Quote:

Another iphone hate thread..seems as common as N900 hate thread. Instead of posting garbage like that in these threads why not try to be useful and help others, or post ideas etc.
The difference is I can take down 90% of these points as working on the iphone. Its just the posters that are misinformed.

gerbick 2010-06-08 22:49

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I don't get how the "No Flash" support is a bulletpoint. I mean, half of this forum hates Flash... they want to uninstall it, remove it, block it, or disregard it - despite others wanting the 10.1 Flash Player plugin like something fierce.

Anyway, music over bluetooth... slow. I'd kill somebody if I had to send over two CD's (ripped) over bluetooth. Try it, time it, get back to me on that one.

pantera1989 2010-06-08 22:49

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I feel that Apple is taking over the world with mediocre products. And somehow inventing already existing inventions..like a touch screen phone. or iPad (Tablet PC). I don't say that the iPhone sucks. It would not be true. But I do hate Apple. Yes. However this is only my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

And just to clarify: bad press for the iphone is still press. If you want the iphone to die one day..stop talking about it.

quipper8 2010-06-08 22:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 706269)
Half of your points are old and outdated from like generation 1 of the iphone, the other half work with JB (which you probably don't agree with even though you are on a Maemo board).

And yes there is no Flash support on the iphone.

Only the point about the widget is of note and I think you can do this on JB.

Jailbreak away, I hope Steve never sends you

"This Apple ID has been disabled for security reasons"

error :)

which is basically another point

I want to do amoral things with MY device without fear of being remotely disabled by the manufacturer...oh wait....I can't

gerbick 2010-06-08 22:55

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 706274)
I feel that Apple is taking over the world with mediocre products.

Replace "Apple" with "Microsoft" and you have the 90's all over. Replace "Apple" with "IBM" and you have the 80's.

danramos 2010-06-08 22:57

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I wish I could walk into a store to get help with using my iPhone... oh..OH! I.. I guess I can!
I wish I could get accessories that work well or are made for my iPhone.. I.. guess I can.
I wish I could walk into a store and at LEAST get repairs, parts or even a replacement for my iPhone.. hey, I can!!
...and so can MOST phones except the N900. :)

I personally don't care for the iPhone.. but this is a silly thread. heh

rmerren 2010-06-08 22:58

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I don't want the iPhone to die...if it were not around, I would not be able to feel so smug and superior. I would not be different from my demographic. I would be ordinary.

jaeezzy 2010-06-08 22:59

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Oh plzzz let the "...Oh! I can't" thing going. I'm loving it :D..

quipper8 2010-06-08 23:01

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
I want to write quick little programs in scripting languages right on my device and run them....oh wait...i can't

Benson 2010-06-08 23:02

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 706269)
Half of your points are old and outdated from like generation 1 of the iphone.

Perhaps you could enumerate them? I mean, there's only sixteen, it shouldn't be too hard to run through them point-by-point. It would be greatly enlightening for those of us who don't have an iPhone, and are stuck with second-hand reports at best.

I'd thought most of them are valid at least as far as the 3GS. Not sure what iOS 4 brings, so I wouldn't be surprised if some are invalidated by it, but I think few if any would be invalidated with the iPhone 3G or early releases. (Unless you meant "old and outdated" in the sense that everyone's tired of hearing them, not that they're now fixed, in which case I agree completely. ;))

As for jailbreak, I wonder why people who like a system you're encouraged to hack by the manufacturer would be say you can't count hacks which are denounced as illegal and actively countered by the manufacturer... after all, these are both hacks, so should be cool, right?

danramos 2010-06-08 23:04

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The "this is so sad" tag on this thread just makes me snort-giggle because it's so true. This N900 fanboism just conjures up the image of a bulky black N900 crying "I'm still relevant!" in a sea of peppier more popular devices.

pantera1989 2010-06-08 23:05

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 706285)
Replace "Apple" with "Microsoft" and you have the 90's all over. Replace "Apple" with "IBM" and you have the 80's.

I was born in 1989. So I don't know about IBM.. Microsoft..I never particularly liked them, but didn't hate them.

Apple just makes my blood boil. Sleazy marketing and all these fan boys. Microsoft never had these fan boys. At least not where I live. I constantly feel like punching them...

danramos 2010-06-08 23:07

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 706293)
I want to write quick little programs in scripting languages right on my device and run them....oh wait...i can't

iPhone is pretty tightly closed up (unless you jailbreak it), but Android easily has that covered:
http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 706299)
Microsoft never had these fan boys.

Wow. You're clearly new to this world.

wmarone 2010-06-08 23:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 706299)
Microsoft never had these fan boys.

You must be new to the internet!

As for the topic, the iPhone shouldn't treat me like the enemy, but it does.

To be fair to Apple, HTC phones do as well though weakly, and Motorola has an entire research line (MotoMAGX) that uses SELinux and TrustZone to ensure your device is permanently crippled.

So yeah. Yeah. Boy, this thread is kinda lame, isn't it?

quipper8 2010-06-08 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 706303)
iPhone is pretty tightly closed up (unless you jailbreak it), but Android easily has that covered:
http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/

Cool

Thanks

pantera1989 2010-06-08 23:16

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 706307)
You must be new to the internet

If I browse 10 webpages about Microsoft, 7 are bashing them about their OS being buggy, or slow, crashes etc.

If I browse 10 webpages about Apple, 0.1 is saying anything agaist their products. Apparently they're perfect. Until you use them and find out for yourself (I don't mean the Mac or iPhone crashes constantly..but perfect..no way).

gerbick 2010-06-08 23:20

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 706296)
The "this is so sad" tag on this thread just makes me snort-giggle because it's so true.

Blame me. I put it there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989
I was born in 1989. So I don't know about IBM.. Microsoft..I never particularly liked them, but didn't hate them.

Apple just makes my blood boil. Sleazy marketing and all these fan boys. Microsoft never had these fan boys. At least not where I live. I constantly feel like punching them...

You cannot be serious. I suggest doing a bit of research before 1989 - Microsoft has had fanboys that would put Linux (or any) fanboys to shame.

And I was born in 1974. So by the time you were born, I was programming for at least 3 years.

wmarone 2010-06-08 23:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 706321)
If I browse 10 webpages about Microsoft, 7 are bashing them about their OS being buggy, or slow, crashes etc.

Like I said, You're New to the Internet! The fanboys have faded mostly, or been fairly defanged since they got boned back in 2000 and have had eyes staring down their back since. Prior to that, man...

Quote:

If I browse 10 webpages about Apple, 0.1 is saying anything agaist their products. Apparently they're perfect. Until you use them and find out for yourself (I don't mean the Mac or iPhone crashes constantly..but perfect..no way).
Come now, you can easily find bastions of Apple hate on the internet. For cheap laughs you can go to 4chan and troll /g/!

But the truth is that Apple focuses intensely on user experience, and it pays off in spades.

imperiallight 2010-06-08 23:21

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Ok, at Bensons req.

Quote:

I want to send a mp3 file over bluetooth ... oh wait ... i canīt
JB iBlueNova for any file transfer

Quote:

I want to download a file from a webpage to keep it on my cellphone... oh wait... I canīt
Lots of appstore apps especially different web browsers you can download.

Quote:

I want to attach a MP3 file to an email so I can send it to my friends.... oh wait... I canīt
JB find file through iFile and mail.

Quote:

I want to make a SIP call from my phone ... oh wait .... I can, but I have to open the SIP software before...
Too many from appstore

Quote:

I want to make a video call to my friends computer .... Oh wait... my friend has to have an Iphone 4g ...
I don't see this as a point, only as a trial run of the service.

Quote:

I want to have another browser I donīt like mine ... oh wait... I canīt
There are lots from the App store, I am using Opera myself.

Quote:

I have an "non 3g Ipad" and I want to connect to the internet through my iphone... oh wait ... I canīt
JB PDAnet

Quote:

I want use my iphone as a 32 or 16gb Pen Drive... oh wait ... I canīt
Lots of Apps from the store.

Quote:

I want to customize my desktop to my needs ... oh wait... I canīt and my grandpaīs iphone Is almost the same config as mine...
JB You would cry if you saw mine. Its set up like Windows with folders and stuff. See here (mine is better):

http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=...-touch-iphone=

You can use winterboard for other stuff

Quote:

I want widgets so I can quickly access essential Info... oh wait ... I canīt
Iphone is pretty one touch but yeah I think you can set up home screen functions like "intelliscreen" but it locked up my iphone once.

EDIT: FYI - Hintry replaced Intelliscreen with Lockinfo & Cydget. I had heard of them but not used it due to my bad experience with a very early version of Intelliscreen.

http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-news...available.html

Quote:

I want to see the adress of one company but their site is made in flash technology... oh wait ... I canīt
EDIT you can, using CloudBrowse to watch Flash videos, sites or whatever with sound using a desktop Firefox browser with Java script

Yeah I wonder how long the n900 will be able to.

Quote:

I only want to be online everytime it detects wifi, my carrier doesnīt have a great data plan... oh wait... I canīt
Of course you can

Quote:

I want to be able to delete data from the phone memory... oh wait ... I canīt, have to do it from Itunes...
Well you can using iFILE (browses your root iphone directory for file management)

Quote:

I want to play videos on my phone without having to convert them... oh wait... I canīt
JB Media players like mplayer... remember that for the internet tablets?

Quote:

I need subtitles on my videos ... oh wait... I canīt
Subtitles for iPhone steams subtitles from opensubtitle (appstore) there are others too.
Quote:

A friend on mine wants to see jizzhut or porntube videos online ... he canīt ... and he shouldnīt...
The iphone is creating a new generation of iphone formatted porn. Nearly all sites have iphone viewing options. So I hear...:D

OR you can just watch it in desktop flash using CloudBrowse

pantera1989 2010-06-08 23:24

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 706325)
Blame me. I put it there.



You cannot be serious. I suggest doing a bit of research before 1989 - Microsoft has had fanboys that would put Linux (or any) fanboys to shame.

And I was born in 1974. So by the time you were born, I was programming for at least 3 years.

Hmm..what happened before I was born doesn't really bug me..if so I would be pissed with England for involving us in WW2. Anyway I don't hate microsoft for one simple reason.

Everyone here uses Microsoft. A few users use linux. But the difference is that although they use it, they complain about the OS. With Apple everything seems perfect which bugs me. How could it be perfect? One of the greatest devices around..sure. But perfect? And arguing with Apple fan boys is like arguing with a woman. Even if you're right they will never admit it.

** Edit ** As imperial said you will never win this iPhone war. The iPhone can do a lot of things. It is superior in many aspects. You can't deny this. The only thing the N900 is really better (apart the obvious stuff like camera and browsing) is the liberty. I like that. I feel excited when I mess about with the N900. Jailbreak doesn't even come close to the liberty on N900. But this won't get mass appeal..but it certainly got mine.

Lullen 2010-06-08 23:28

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
So funny that people have to make this kind of threads just to ensure themself that they have a better phone. At starter, get an iPhone!

afaq 2010-06-08 23:34

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 706273)
I don't get how the "No Flash" support is a bulletpoint. I mean, half of this forum hates Flash... they want to uninstall it, remove it, block it, or disregard it - despite others wanting the 10.1 Flash Player plugin like something fierce.

Anyway, music over bluetooth... slow. I'd kill somebody if I had to send over two CD's (ripped) over bluetooth. Try it, time it, get back to me on that one.

Half of the forum? do you have numbers/stats/surveys to back that up? I love flash. Any flash is good.

So bluetooth is slow? so i guess NO bluetooth is better? have you ever taken a picture and wanted to share it with your friends phones/pc's? oh wait bluetooth is slow so lets remove it. make sense dude. pathetic points.


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