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tissot 2010-06-09 09:56

First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4167/112679170.jpg

There have been rumours for some time already for the N9 but lets put it here still. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldar Murtazin
meego is n only - actually 2010-2011 N9-xx only

S 8800 etc


.... and yes he is going to do preview/review of the meeGo device like i'm sure all remember how that went with the N900....
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldar Murtazin
I'm preparing preview of meego and N9-00

About strategy - i decide to put some info in Birulki, so if you look from 66 to 70 you find out a lot of things

While Meego will be the future high end for Nokia i really hope they keep the number of devices down. Symbian went bezerk in 2006-2007 when it went to mid price range. There where many marginally different phones and only the high selling phones really got support.

Samsung seems to be doing pretty much exactly the same thing as Nokia did back then.


http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...ostcount=19772
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...ostcount=19773

Tigerite 2010-06-09 09:58

Re: First MeeGo phones will be part of N9?
 
Well, that definitely looks like a convincing Nokia house - as in, it wouldn't take much to knock it down..

jsa 2010-06-09 10:05

Re: First MeeGo phones will be part of N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigerite (Post 706877)
Well, that definitely looks like a convincing Nokia house - as in, it wouldn't take much to knock it down..

Care to keep this thread on topic - as in, if you don't have anything to say about the subject, don't post..

nosa101 2010-06-09 10:07

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
What is the S series?
Will the n9 look like the n8

rickysio 2010-06-09 10:12

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
I'd just see the pictures and ignore whatever Eldar says - apparently that man is infuriated as to why Nokia left him off the mailing lists... Purportedly they have no reason to, and Eldar is supposedly impartial and fair.

Some people are just so blind to their own bias.

msa 2010-06-09 10:12

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
hm, this may very well be possible, considering the n8 and n9 are categorized as "eleve" (which means something like high class, top class)

would make sense to have a symbian^3 and a meego device as their top-products.

Dave999 2010-06-09 10:19

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
I think the first meego phone will be n900.

tissot 2010-06-09 10:20

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msa (Post 706911)
would make sense to have a symbian^3 and a meego device as their top-products.

There's no guestion about it really if MeeGo/Maemo will be the top of the line phones and Symbian will be the mid and and high end.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...i/platform.jpg

I would have kind of wanted MeeGo phones to be it's own series with tablets and phones. Thought at least when it comes to phones N9 will work kind of as it's own series(N9-01, N9-02 etc).

juise- 2010-06-09 10:23

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Hmm, wonder how their 1 letter + 1 number scheme works out after they already have N8 and N9, and want to publish something new and better?

I think the model line names (i.e. the letter) is a good idea, but I don't see how the numbering is going to work. Also I think it will be a mistake if they mix Symbians and Linuxes in the same line+numbering scheme. It will just confuse the consumers. There's no logic in N8 = Symbian, N9 = MeeGo, they're going to be very different but only have one number between them.

Edit: I propose M-series for Maemo/MeeGo. ;-)

rickysio 2010-06-09 10:24

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
N8-00 is the first phone.

Newer phones in that series will be labelled N8 on the box, but number would go N8-XX.

Like the next phone would be N8-01, the one after that N8-02, so on and so forth.

bbin 2010-06-09 10:31

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Nokia share taking some hit today because of this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/g...europe-remain/ :D

juise- 2010-06-09 10:38

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbin (Post 706947)

Quote:

Google Maps Navigation comes to Canada and mainland Europe, remains free as a bird
W00t, Engadget got mixed up on their metaphors. It may be free as in free beer, or just free, but certainly not free as a bird.

theflew 2010-06-09 11:00

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbin (Post 706947)
Nokia share taking some hit today because of this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/g...europe-remain/ :D

Nokia still has the one feature Google doesn't and that's offline navigation. Which means no roaming when traveling between countries in Europe and when you don't have service you still have navigation.

jerryfreak 2010-06-09 11:47

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
from the engadget comments:


brararsh
brararsh Posted Jun 9th 2010 6:54AM
Neutral

Here is something interesting..


Quote:

I just got my less than 1 day old N900 flashed with the latest PR1.2, version 10.2010.19-1.002, but you guys probably don't care about my excitement today and probably want to know more about the MeeGo devices coming.

The specs I saw were a little incomplete, however, the MeeGo device I described below is known as "Dali."

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael-Dallas
The latest I've heard:

- penta-band
- 12MP/Dual LED
- 64GB
- Capacitive touch

No confirmation on QWERTY. I would assume "no" because of capacitive touch screen.


In addition to above,

- RM-690 (I'm not 100% sure, but fairly certain it's 690)
- quad-band/penta-band (so it will support every 3G band under the sun like the N8)
- 720p HD recording
- 4" 16:9 capacitive multi-touch screen
- about 0.5-1.0 centimeters thinner than N900 (I forgot if he said 0.5 or 1.0, LOL)
- 13x0 mAh battery (I forget to check, but I suspect the display to be OLED and I was told battery life is expected to be better than N900)

Like I said, the specs are incomplete so there may be small changes/additions before launch.

Now, shockingly (or not shockingly) there will be another MeeGo device, known as "Lankku." I was not able to see specs, much less get much info on it.

Another shocker... one of these devices may be launched towards the end of this year and the other around 2Q-3Q 2011. I forget which one, but I'm pretty sure the goal is to launch Dali at the end of this year.

I got to see a Maemo 5 app in alpha phase called "Smart Search." Pretty damn nifty. It'll end up in Ovi Store, but I don't know when.

I am hesitant to say this because I do not want to start an uproar or negative speculation, but Maemo 6/MeeGo will have some interesting changes, namely Nokia has decided to limit the amount of personalization on the homescreens to make it easier and simpler for general consumers to use. These are my words and how I remember and interpret the info.

Slightly off-note, I saw an interesting blurb about 64GB Samsung flash and 64GB Toshiba flash. Apparently, one was faster than the other, but was more expensive (I'll let you guys guess ). Also saw an interesting blurb on one of the MeeGo devices passing 100,000 chassis flexes and almost surviving a drop. And yet another one about a phone passing a heat test, but the screws turning brown afterwards, LOL.

Yes, I probably should have paid more attention, but it was too much info and I was hungry.

One last thing... I would certainly appreciate it if this info is not propogated (at least my posts not referenced). I do not want to lose a friend that I consider dear to me should this gets tracked back to him.

///Michael

There's one more nugget, but I shouldn't say publically.

harp 2010-06-09 11:55

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
His poor friend..

zehjotkah 2010-06-09 12:10

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
I wonder why Nokia isn't using the codenames as official device names.
Nokia Rover instead of N900
Nokia Dali
Nokia Lankku
sounds sooo cooool..

raven 2010-06-09 12:14

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Damn nokia. I just saved up enough (been saving since late last year) for a n900, now they pull this. Should I wait until the n9 or just buy the n900 now?

demos 2010-06-09 12:19

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Lankku is Finnish for a plank (as wood). Suspect it has to be bigger then.

kojacker 2010-06-09 12:22

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raven (Post 707063)
Damn nokia. I just saved up enough (been saving since late last year) for a n900, now they pull this. Should I wait until the n9 or just buy the n900 now?

It's months away from release, until we know more about MeeGo and Nokia's flavour of it then it's impossible to compare. The first MeeGo conference is in November, the first Nokia MeeGo release was (a while back) rumoured for late October.. so as an uninformed but slightly educated guess you're looking towards November time. In Eldar's early leaks we trust :)

My n900 contract is due upgrade in Dec so timing is almost perfect for me if I decide to go down the MeeGo route... not to rub it in or anything :) Just it'll be coming up to a year from the first n900 sales.

tissot 2010-06-09 12:26

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 707028)
from the engadget comments:


brararsh
brararsh Posted Jun 9th 2010 6:54AM
Neutral

Here is something interesting..

This have been available in howardforums for much over a month.... now it seems somebody did throw it to Engadget. Oh well i got a say posting something like that to open forum and you can't blame anybody than yourself.

Lankku would indeed implie it being qwerty-less. I think he even mentions it on on og his posts.

benny1967 2010-06-09 12:28

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 707028)
Here is something interesting..
Quote:

No confirmation on QWERTY. I would assume "no" because of capacitive touch screen.

[...]

- 4" 16:9 capacitive multi-touch screen


I don't see how a capacitive multitouch screen would have to do anything with qwerty or no qwerty. anyway, if the screen really is 4" it would be very nice.

Jedibeeftrix 2010-06-09 12:35

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael-Dallas (Post 707028)

- penta-band
- 12MP/Dual LED
- 64GB
- Capacitive touch

No confirmation on QWERTY. I would assume "no" because of capacitive touch screen.


In addition to above,

- RM-690 (I'm not 100% sure, but fairly certain it's 690)
- quad-band/penta-band (so it will support every 3G band under the sun like the N8)
- 720p HD recording
- 4" 16:9 capacitive multi-touch screen
- about 0.5-1.0 centimeters thinner than N900 (I forgot if he said 0.5 or 1.0, LOL)
- 13x0 mAh battery (I forget to check, but I suspect the display to be OLED and I was told battery life is expected to be better than N900)

Like I said, the specs are incomplete so there may be small changes/additions before launch.

hah, pleasingly similar to what appears here:

http://jedibeeftrix.wordpress.com/20...-tablet-phone/

cjp 2010-06-09 13:04

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Man I can't wait for stuff to begin trickling out about the next Maemo device.

Yeahyeah MeeGo MeeShmo device, that's what I said. ;)

benny1967 2010-06-09 13:23

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 707101)
hah, pleasingly similar to what appears here:

http://jedibeeftrix.wordpress.com/20...-tablet-phone/

nice photo. i don't agree with some of what's written in the blog post (especially about the need for a physical keyboard), but it sure looks tempting. ;)

tissot 2010-06-09 13:34

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 707177)
nice photo. i don't agree with some of what's written in the blog post (especially about the need for a physical keyboard), but it sure looks tempting. ;)

I was just going to ask from where is that pic from? It got nice Nokia + mobile computer feel on it.

Jedibeeftrix 2010-06-09 13:35

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 707177)
nice photo. i don't agree with some of what's written in the blog post (especially about the need for a physical keyboard), but it sure looks tempting. ;)

i love my n900, and i love the keyboard on it.

however, i want a bigger screen on the first MeeGo device and i imagine Nokia marketing would throw a fit at try to sell a device that was as big as the HTC Evo 4G, but twice as fat due to the need for a keyboard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 707194)
I was just going to ask from where is that pic from? It got nice Nokia + mobile computer feel on it.

i made the image using blender.

tissot 2010-06-09 13:43

Re: First MeeGo phones will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 707198)
i made the image using blender.

Nice. Loving the design. :)

imperiallight 2010-06-09 13:49

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Hope they take some of these forum wishes into consideration:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...n900+successor

raven 2010-06-09 13:52

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Then I think I will buy the n900 without regret then. I'm a fan of the qwerty keyboard, and the n900 dev mentality. And it is fact that meego will run on n900. n8 was a flop I reckon. As long as there is room to extend and develop I'll be happy.

tissot 2010-06-09 13:53

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raven (Post 707228)
Then I think I will buy the n900 without regret then. I'm a fan of the qwerty keyboard, and the n900 dev mentality. And it is fact that meego will run on n900. n8 was a flop I reckon. As long as there is room to extend and develop I'll be happy.

N8 hasn't even started selling yet. it will be Nokia's high volume high end phone no doubt.

nosa101 2010-06-09 13:55

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
I didn't know you could flop before release

zehjotkah 2010-06-09 13:56

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 707230)
N8 hasn't even started selling yet. it will be Nokia's high volume high end phone no doubt.

and it supports QT, so it can't fail ;)

tissot 2010-06-09 14:03

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 707234)
and it supports QT, so it can't fail ;)

Well it surely can fail but it's a bit hard to be failiure yet as it's not selling. :)
I honestly think it will do ok while it will not be N95 seller even with half of the starting price compared to N95.

ppriyank 2010-06-09 14:17

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
i think the S series will be meego...if u think abt it...all the N series phones r symbian...except the n900...the newest os with nokia is meego...therefore they just might start callin it S-00...idk...thats just my thoughts.

zehjotkah 2010-06-09 14:19

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppriyank (Post 707271)
i think the S series will be meego...if u think abt it...all the N series phones r symbian...except the n900...the newest os with nokia is meego...therefore they just might start callin it S-00...idk...thats just my thoughts.

no. meego is included in n-series.
s-series will be phones like this one: http://www.nokia.de/nokia/presseloft...o-gold-edition

Kangal 2010-06-09 14:38

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 706871)
While Meego will be the future high end for Nokia i really hope they keep the number of devices down. Symbian went bezerk in 2006-2007 when it went to mid price range. There where many marginally different phones and only the high selling phones really got support.

Samsung seems to be doing pretty much exactly the same thing as Nokia did back then.


Quite the opposite imo. The more the (MeeGo) devices, the more the adoption of MeeGo will be. And this will drive more developers to the platform and directly/indirectly lead to a vast (and perhaps quality) Application library.

The fact that Qt & Linux can be served in such a cross-platform solution will only multiply that.

For once I see that Apple is actually playing catch-up in its own field. I mean Apple started the smartphone revolution but HTC expanded it with the G1 and Nexus One. So the best chance for MeeGo is today and if it could serve killer hardware, great software integration, include tasty functions (from desktop os linage) and show promise by releasing a tablet (its the craze) with 1:1 App compatibility with the phone device.

These are all possible, perhaps even easy with the tools (Qt), that needs to be available now. As soon as Froyo arrives, iPhone 4 released and the Google tablet is released, things are going to look more obsolete for MeeGo.

sevla 2010-06-09 14:55

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
i still think that's too many devices.. I think need 5 maybe 6 at the most..

-High End Meego phone
-High End business class (like blackberry)
-Mid range Symbian (Like n9)
-Social Network Centric phone (like the Kin)
-Low end Symbian (Something you get for free or for 50 bucks with a contract)

I don't know why Nokia needs 16 different models. It's harder to support and more difficult to manage internally. I think part of the reason the iPhone is so polished is because that is the only phone Apple works on. Not 16 different iterations of the almost the same thing.

zehjotkah 2010-06-09 14:59

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
there will be far more meego devices. not only from nokia (two devices till mid 2011), but from other manufacturers, too.
nokia will be the lead, though.

jnwi 2010-06-09 15:07

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevla (Post 707325)
i still think that's too many devices.. I think need 5 maybe 6 at the most..

-High End Meego phone
-High End business class (like blackberry)
-Mid range Symbian (Like n9)
-Social Network Centric phone (like the Kin)
-Low end Symbian (Something you get for free or for 50 bucks with a contract)

I don't know why Nokia needs 16 different models. It's harder to support and more difficult to manage internally.

Some high end users may want no keyboard, some may want one. Some business users may want none, bb-style, or n97-style. Same for mid range.

I'm glad they offer so many options, and it seems like they're working to keep the internals as similar as possible.

zfarooq 2010-06-09 15:18

Re: First MeeGo phone will be N9?
 
N9 is confirmed to have a keyboard.


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