screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

anyone else experiencing screen 'tearing' when switching desktops?

mine seems pretty bad, cant remember if i had the same problem in pr1.1.

what im talking about is horizontal lines appearing when you switch from one desktop to another, its as if the phone is cheap and hardware doesnt support such complicated action, which obviously shouldnt be the case.


anyone on the same boat?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

It's not the phone being cheap, it's all about the driver for the graphics chip not telling applications when it's ok to update the display.

What you see is the result. There is a thread somewhere here with a reference to some blog or forum where some Nokia employee makes a statement about this being something what will not be changed/fixed.

EDIT:

Search for "vsync".

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Yea, it's always been there and wont be fixed. The N900 does not support vsync and it's not planned to be. See
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5556
or
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9320#c1

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5556
Looks like it´s wontfix :|

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

I found a solution that partially works, modified transitions.ini file makes device much faster and tearing is less visible. You should try it

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

That's not very helpful. Care to explain/comment on what you changed?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

HellFlyer,

-First why you didn't put link in your post?
-Secondly how you could make any modifications to transiition.ini that affect TEARING issue. I do not understand at all :|

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

@ slender

1. There is an option called SEARCH , if you searched for it you wouldn't asked that question and could have helped by providing link yourself ;)
2. I said it makes tearing less visible ( at least for me) I'm not sure whether it affects but I CAN SEE difference

@jessi3k3

Copy impoved version to Nokia N900 using your PC or download it and extract to Nokia N900.

Then open terminal (you need to have rootsh installed), type sudo gainroot, hit enter then type:

Restart ( optional)

NOTE: Blur is removed which means background of icons in menu will look ugly if you dont use dark themes (or you can change font colour )

I've also included just in case original transitions if you wanna change back :)

To change back just add original to N900 and type the same code

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Fixed in Harmattan

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

HellFlyer,
Yes there is search but you could still think about it a little bit. Searching thread with comments is no brainer but searching particular post with your attachement is a bit harder.

.edit
btw.
Excuse me but do you really understand what tearing and vsync mean?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

LMAO nothing is supported or gonna be supported if you ask nokia. what the hell are they gonna support?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

hi, thanks for the replies.

now i understand why people say maemo5 is a half baked OS, and the immensity of the fxxk nokia doesnt give about the people who bought the n900 thinking its a top end phone.

seems like its another 'feature' we have to put up with.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

nothing, they give everything down to the developers community(although there are still closed source apps in maemo5 WTF!? ) , its unti so long that the community will get fed up with the crappy os support, and give it up altogether.

there are reasons why competitors are more successful in every way, efficient support given to released products being one of them

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Well I assume you never used power search option...

I believe Joorin made it clear enough so that everyone can understand , besides I played PC games for some time ;) I dont want any technical details as I told earlier I saw difference while swiping my finger to change desktops image doesn't look distoreted

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Dont wanna turn this thread to offtopic but you're right! Support is important and Nokia doesnt get it... They used N900 as a tool for developers, and users as guinea pigs, we even filled out survey couple of months ago hoping they will improve N900 and future devices but it seems they just gonna use it for N9 or whatever comes next :(
Mark my words, N8 will be deserted as well, until they move to Symbian ^4 and full MeeGo all their devices are doomed

p.s. Qt 4.6 doesn't mean anything, apps are just apps but I'm 100% sure Symbian ^3 will have firmware issues and they will release only one or two updates

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

So these changes make desktop switching look nicer:

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

hi togehter i wonder why anybody can speak in this thread so freely about the thruth and nobody is there to cry and attacks you. My experience until today in this Forum was if you say anything negative about the n900 or Nokia you get called a Troll , a Noob , Immature and so one.

Maybe they see now the Truth that Nokia fu**ed up anybody who buyed the N900 and that is was just an experiment for them to develop something and we as users did payed there Development experimental Device..

But i dont want to be complete OT so about the screen Problem i did see some crash graphic screen when i was try the new conversation widget 1.1. the whole screen crashes like back in the old vga graphic times when your desktop hangs up sometimes before the bluescreen became modern.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

crown77,
If you have not noticed OP difference between posts like "This sucks why the f this is slow" then it´s time to start really thinking your ability to understand/read HOW people tell about problems what they have. If you try to explain problems and all that comes out of your mouth is bad decsription of problem and just general beating of Nokia then of course you will be called troll. Right then it´s correct term because even thought you have those problems but you have failed to have conversation and you end up just trolling.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

nice that you talk about me did you read the posts before too?..like i said i waited for some comments like this but sorry i dont care becouse we are free to say what we are thinking and i feel cheated by nokia. I dont said the N900 as device is bad i think it isnt. It would have still a greate potencial if Nokia would do more for the Development of Maemo / Megoo for it. But Nokia dont does and this after a halve Year i have this Device .. i guess its normal that some People (like me) dont understand or accept this.

About my Problem, after i deinstalled the updated Conversation Widget again the Graphic Bug was solved .. but i wonder why this comes to Maemo Extras if its crashing the UI? Sorry iam talking to technical i go back to my Troll Corner now..

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

just uninstalled it, problem is till here.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

are you asking me or saying that its really positively affects tearing issue?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

crown77,
Whatta hell. What did i say wrong? Currently i´m just O here. What? Is it just that my writing is so bad or whatta hell is happening here?

I just tried to explain you why this has been pretty open and neat so far and why some threads where people start with really bad attitude go down.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Asking that are these the particular settings that you have tested and help in desktop switch tearing issue. Do those slow it down little so that it doesn´t tear and what are those lines that I didn't see in original transition.ini. Are they documented somwhere?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

I found that file posted long time ago here at tmo and I have no idea what that settings do. try to remove and see if you are that curious ;)

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Could be because you have precondition on yout N900 that testers didn't have. Also if something crashes on your N900 it doesnät meant that it happens on all the other people also. So it´s after that happens in future search bugzilla, search forums and report and see if there is other people with that issue also.

BUT what I believe is that after long and tedious app testing to extras Nokia released PR 1.2 that broke some apps in extras (which is considered as safe also by nokia because they have enabled it out of box n900). They should have released developement fw so that some of porblems with extras stuff could have been spotted.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

hehe. Lolling here. Typical Linux stuff. I just found some shell commands and after i have written those everything is fixed. Do I understand what i did. NO, but then what ;)

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Not funny and if you know just tell the community and me what they do no need to be such a jerk...

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

I do not know what those lines do and I asked from you and you neither did know and after that i laughed because this whole sitsuation reminds me ubuntu,pclos just name it linux support forums where people pretty randomly write stuff in shell and fix stuff. After all everything is fixed, but sometimes i find it quite funny that people do stuff without really knowing what they do. Maybe then its just me and my weird sense of humor, but I really do not want to hurt anyone so I´m deeply sorry if my twisted humor makes me jerk in your eyes.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

hi all, am i right to think that there is possibly no piratical solution to this issue in the near future?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

im quite sure there isnt such problem in pr1.1, anyone agrees?

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

anyone?:confused:

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Anyone what? Planning to rewrite closed GPU drives/stack?

Can it get any clearer than has been said by Nokia employee in these:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7459
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9320#c1
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5556

Suckitisucks :) Let´s move on.

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Keep your fingers crossed... and pray for the unofficial Harmattan port

Re: screen tearing in pr1.2?
 

Now this officially sucks. I have been able to forgive Nokia for most of this devices' shortcomings but this is just an insult. The thing doesnt support vsynch and they have no intention of fixing it? This is making it impossible to buy another nokia phone ever again withou feeling like a sucker.