Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3764/t...torola-droid/1

And after reading it I realise why I like this phone sooo much.

I think that Nokia need to believe in the phone a bit more and push out their software dev team and get them developing in QT ASAP!!!

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Cool, it probably gets a better review because it has been around for a while. I'm sure if it was reviewed a few months ago it would be hard to give it a passing mark, but by now it is clear the community can make up for most of Nokia's shortcomings.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

The last couple of paragraphs of that article were sad.

:(

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Just got finished reading the article. Sounds like the author really got it regarding the N900. Which is not all that surprising for a gearhead like site like anandtech.

Overall a positive review of the N900. But also fair, not a puff piece.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I am quite sure qgil (I think) is around here quoted as saying there will be a PR1.3....

I'll have to look around for it again.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Just a couple of things to add to what was an excellent article. I ran the spider benchmark on my Oced N900 (950) and got a much better score of 22750. I also downloaded and compiled linpack for my N900 and got 10.8 Mfps which as you can see poops on all the others from a great height.

Also to everyone who *****es about the N900 battery life - you might want to check out the graphs in comparison to the other phones.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Dont care what others thinks of this device,I just love it.
it is as close as possible to having a linux based LAPTOP in ur pocket

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

They are like the other Maemo hopefuls: in theory N900 is awesome, in practice, apart from the browser and a select few other features, it is unacceptable for adequate use

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I adequately use mine every day just fine...

It's inadequate for some people's uses.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

-Mediaplayer has major playlist editing flaws and no equalizer
-Maemo Ovi Maps = **** compared to S60V5 Ovi Maps 3
-No functioning Application Store
-No commercial third-party applications or games
-No real Portrait Mode support
-No adequate usable Office applications
-Principally no real first or third party support

Maemo 5 isn't even a year old and already pretty much near its EOL

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

This will be my only response to this.

I use Pandora Radio, from an app I myself wrote, instead of MP3's.. so wouldn't know. I also use the media player just fine for movies.
I don't make a habbit of getting lost. Thus, I don't usually use "Maps". The very rarely I have to go somewhere that I don't know, the Maps has worked fine for me. Again, adequate.
I don't buy apps. The repository and App manager work fine for me.
Don't need it.
OpenOffice, Abiword, Gnumeric cover me fine.
... Ok? And?

Again.. while you may hate it.. fine.. hate it. It works perfectly fine for those that don't need what you obviously need.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Basically it is adequate if you:
-don't listen to mp3's
-don't need navigation on vacation or when visiting friends/other cities/etc
-don't want any third party developed games or applications
-never want to use the device in Portrait Mode
-can accept non-optified and crashing Office applications
-are OK with paying the full price for a half-finished product

OK, I see. That is great, I can now see that this is the best mobile device ever

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

[QUOTE=PradaBrada;710951]

-Mediaplayer has major playlist editing flaws and no equalizer

yes, its not good, but you can create playlists on your pc (itunes for e.g) and easily transfer that, concering editing: mussorgsky- so yes, its not elegant, but one can solve that..


-Maemo Ovi Maps = **** compared to S60V5 Ovi Maps 3

sygic maps is great, dont mind paying for it


-No functioning Application Store

thats true and one of the flaws, but the app manager does have good community apps


-No commercial third-party applications or games

none? really? thats not true and really good ones are starting to come..

-No real Portrait Mode support

to be honest, this was one of the things i was worried about before buying the phone, but interestingly enough i catch myself using landscape even when using the browser. the only thing really missing is the virtual keyboard in portrait for those who enjoy portrait mode

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Oh how would I love slashdot ranking system on TMO to weed-out trolls.
Even simple "ignore this user" feature would be welcome. I'm sure there is such extension to vB available.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I use my N900 as my MAIN media player, about at least 3 hours of music/podcasts per day, over A2DP. Works as good as any dedicated device I've used.

Sygic Maps works just fine for me. If you have a problem paying for it, no our issue. Find a way around it.

The repositores are full of third party applications and games. They might not be up to the eye candy as others, but that's not what this handset was ever about.

Portrait mode is completely subjective. I don't need it.

Docs to Go has never crashed on me and I don't edit documents on 3.5" screen.

If you're miffed that you bought the device and don't understand how to use it to it's best potential for you, that's your own fault. We really don't need you in the community, so feel free to leave.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Open the respective person's profile, click User Lists and then Add to Ignore List. Their posts won't show, but you'll still see threads started by them.

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That is the only solution to the problem, but honestly that is not a solution for a device that parades itself as a mobile computer. My old N95 8GB had a solution, heck even my old SE P800 had the solution, namely proper playlist editing and an equalizer.

I'm sure it's great, but no way gonna pay that much for an application that is not better than Nokia's standardly free solution for all its other new premium devices

Would love to see more

Here's a list of all of them which are good, available or available "soon":
1-Angry Birds
2-Jurassic Rollercoaster
3-Zen game
4-Office To Go Pro (coming soon)
5-Sygic Mobile Maps 9/10
6-Morpho QuickPanorama

Funnily enough I find myself doing the same thing, you know why?
Because I don't have any other choice, the only other "choice" would be putting the device away.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

By all means, sell your crappy device!
What stops you from that?

As far as I know, noone is holding a gun against your forehead to keep it.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I do too, that is why it bugs me that my old N95 8GB performs better

Solution = Ovi Maps 3 on Maemo

Mostly see emulators (those are good), stock cloned games, batterycheckers and other system changing utilities.

Its a nice feature to have on a device which is clearly hardware and software wise capable and there is no substantial reason it is not available apart from laziness/abandonment on Nokia's side.

I was talking about Abiword. OpenOffice is adequate but unusable due to size

No, you see that's Nokia's fault for not polishing the software enough. If I buy a car which has a defective speedometer it's the car makers fault if I go over the speed limit, not mine.

that's great smoku, if you can't take criticism, just deny any flaws.
Like they say ignorance is bliss

Love your work by the way, keep it up

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I am also pretty confident that there will be a PR1.3 (and I know nothing!).

BUT I suspect that it is going to be even less substantial than PR1.2, and that it is going to be the last firmware update for my two N900s.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

The device is not crappy, the browser for example is damn near perfect (just needs Flash 10.1). The N900 is more of a very rough diamond, it would be perfect with just a bit of polishing (mainly the things I pointed out). It remains sad to see that it is doubtful that will ever happen since Nokia has other plans.

Since I already chose it above the others which were available at the time, I am sticking by my decision and going down with the ship.
At least for a year, hoping to see Android 2.2+ on N900, among other things.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Well ok if you have made the decision to stick with it and "go down with the ship". Houw bout you stfu and stop whining while the rest of us enjoy our cruise.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

This is incorrect. The speedometer of this car is not defective.

You have bought a car that has a perfectly functional speedometer, but then saw your buddies different model cars speedometer and decided you liked that speedometer better - and are now blaming your car manufacturer for not putting your buddies speedometer in your car.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Oh so the months long wait for PR1.2 was a waste and it didn't give us any more stability or features which should have shipped with the device? And we aren't waiting for a PR1.3 to fix more, not to mention Ovi Maps 3 and a useful Ovi Store?

No, I will stay here and keep deterring potential buyers, such as myself only a short while ago, and hopefully push developers to try harder.

And to all those calling me a troll for this, I quote:

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

When I bought the first Android G1 phone, things were much worse than this. While Nokia fans might have issues when coming from Symbian and I agree that's a hard act to follow - if you compare with other new phone/platform combinations, it's a much fairer comparison.

Every manufacturer leaves older hardware and their owners behind. Try talking to owners of palm tops like Mobile Pro and Jornada after cheap netbooks hit the market - the few dozen that were left, anyway. Phones are a little different, I guess, because if it still can make a phone call, someone can still get use out of it.

Keep in mind that people still on a 2 year contract with the G1 are being left behind by Google/Android. The Office applications were months after the phone release, and expensive. The 3rd party games and apps didn't start coming until iPhone devs started porting and the original Market had very little of any value in it for quite a while. And Android couldn't even save web pages or run more than limited javascript in the beginning. No wiki on a stick for Android 1.5. (Is it true that the iPhone still can't?)

To be honest, a decent web broswer and gnumeric and abiword still beats most of the available Android office stuff. It's slim pickings there on both platforms compared to all the entertainment and social networking apps. That doesn't make the N900 an inferior phone. It means that more people will pay for a twitter or facebook app or one with pictures of scantily clad college co-eds. I don't miss wading through those. :-)

I thought the article was very thoughtful and clarified the best features of the N900.

Terry (unfortunately iPhone still has the best flying related apps)

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I see so you will stay on a community based forum that has nothing to do with Nokia, whining and moaning, while at the same time not getting rid of the device. In an attempt to push developers - all of whom support the very community you are annoying/bashing.

In other words you are a d i c k.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

You seem like an educated man and you speak some truth, you also repeat a lot of subjective opinions like they are truth. It is clear that you have ideas and strong opinions.

My question to you is....

Are you planning to or actually doing anything to help the community in constructive way? Or are you are you just going to sit at the keyboard moaning about everything you think is wrong with maego, the n900 and the people who are enjoying it?

Please tell me.........the suspense is killing me!:)

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Nokia sponsors this forum and hopefully also has employers visiting to remain in contact with the community and see how some users think about their products.

Also as I said, internet on the device is still unmatched.

But if you want to put it that way, yes, I am, how you say, kind of a dick.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

You're the one that used the car analogy. The maps software works fine, for what it does. It simply lacks features present in other map software on the market. Features that, as far as I know, were never advertised as being on the device to begin with. The people you bought the phone from are under no obligation to make sure you get the best map software available today, and tomorrow, and the next day, on your phone. You bought the phone with the map software it has: That's what they gave you.

I'm not saying you can't ask for it, or that they can't bring it to you, or that they can't make it available for you to get. Just like your buddies speedometer.

What I am saying is that you act as if you're entitled to being coddled and spoonfed everything you want as soon as you want it.

You don't ask for things, you scream and insult and call people f****** idiots because you aren't happy with your device.

That's just nonsense, and the main reason I prefixed my initial response with it would be the only one; and I largely have been avoiding responding to you in any thread.

You just tried using a metaphor that failed miserably, so I fixed it for you.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

FTR, I want more smart, techie people and their friends to buy this phone so that there is a bigger pool of app developers and users. Dissing the phone you want others to develop on seems kind of weird to me.


Terry

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Can we get this goddamn thread back on topic and look at the comparisons between phones. Tried to help by posting updated test results way back on the 1st page. People can feel free to do the same

Just a quick thing. Boosting my max CPU to 1Gz ups the Mflops of linpack to 11.3 average. Amazing the diff 50 Mhz can make.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

PR1.3 should bring us Qt 4.7 and Qt-mobility

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Or simply Nokia gave false promises and founded misguided hopes, then abandoned us.

I paid premium price for the device, I expect premium customer service and premium services that automatically come with all the companies other lesser devices.

F--- the metaphor, it's the moral of it is what counts.
You get the point, the device was not finished even after Nokia trying to finish it months after the release date and still not finished half a year into its lifetime.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Alright this clown just doesnt get it - time to locally mute him. He joins orange box in my list.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I'm still waiting for an answer..................

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

I was incorrect, it wasn't qgil, it was konttori:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...617#post561617

I also saw reference that Ari J. confirmed PR1.3 as well.

So at least part of the article is misinformed, there will be at least one more update. (Though like many others, I think that'll be the last.)


ref: http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re..._5_release_.3F

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Besides Qgil who's only role seems is to update us about Meego's progress and be illusive about what's coming or not coming (though I think his official role is community relations). And Peter (who I think made one post in the very beginning of the N900's launch and hasn't seem to be back yet). And maybe one or two developers that work with bugfixes. There's nobody else as far as I know.

And there's not much Qgil can do that's not already immediately to Nokia. Say Ovi Maps 3.0 (though technically your really asking for 2.0 since the 3.0 means the 3rd version of Symbian Ovi Maps).

Qgil can say the obvious "hey people want Ovi Maps to be better" but the higher ups will just say "our resources are dedicated to Meego/Symbian 3 and probably QT Ovi Maps v1 [that would be the logical conclusion if Meego and Symbian 3 are QT compatible]". And because Qgil can't say anything without being fired, he just says something illusive like Nokia may allow their commercial applications to be run on a community supported Meego release (though I probably stated it with more clarity then he ever would =P)

In other words, for all purposes. Nokia has nobody that can do anything (sorry Qgil) that you hope for on this forum. Your more likely to get attention on Nokia's official forum.

PS: Qgil, feel free to correct me if I've typed casted your job wrong.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Helping others, giving suggestions, testing stuff, reporting bugs: sure.

I won't be developing anything if that is your question.

If by "techie" people you mean Linux buffs and developers, they will buy it regardless of what is said, just look at most of the users here.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

He's also mentioned PR1.3 in at least bugs 5482 and 6394, with Andre making a confirming comment in the latter of those.

Re: Anandtech reviewed the N900 and loved it!!
 

Fair enough, I'm not a developer either.

It's just that you seem so adversarial on these forums and seem to take pleasure in pi$$ing on warm fuzzy threads. Whenever I see a "happy thread" I think when are you going show up and do a "PradaBrada Dump" all over it!:rolleyes:

I don't think I'm alone.

If that's the way you want to come across.....fine. I just don't think it will do your "cause" any good.