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xxxxts 2010-06-11 16:15

How often do you reboot?
 
How often do you reboot (power off/power on) your device? For what reason(s)?

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 16:18

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I only reboot when something isn't working right.

Can range from every couple of days to once a week. I think my longest uptime so far is a little over a week..

jmc8501 2010-06-11 16:19

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Lately every other day because of this https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5670
Before this started happening, very rarely.

atilla 2010-06-11 16:19

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
o dont put it off an on i just type as root reboot in xterm.....

aligatro 2010-06-11 16:24

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I forget to charge it sometimes and it shutdown by itself :P

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-06-11 16:24

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
So far nothing wrong with my great N900 and only done reboot when changing the theme ( it has to be reboot )

xxxxts 2010-06-11 16:47

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I reboot almost every time I update or install a new application... back before any of the updates you would need to in order to get the icon to refresh on the screen. I guess I just kept the habit - I got the N900 the first week it came out from the NYC Flagship store.

ZootHornRollo 2010-06-11 16:50

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
hardly ever. like once a month or more if the battery runs out!

steveiow 2010-06-11 16:56

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I reboot mine 2 or 3 times a day :(((

I drive for a living and am always losing the signal and the phone doesnt seem to be able to get the signal back without me having to reboot it... :(((

Its a pain in the *** but I've got used to doing it now..

Netweaver 2010-06-11 17:00

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
i have sh*tloads of apps from devel but I hardly reboot. only when I'm messing around with new kernel versions. I love the n900, apart from some other, real people ;)

quipper8 2010-06-11 17:02

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I hardly ever reboot, but I do switch battery every day.

BTW, I have been just pulling the battery out while running and have not had any corruption or anything yet, in case y'all were wondering

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 17:08

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmc8501 (Post 710766)
Lately every other day because of this https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5670
Before this started happening, very rarely.

Hah.. that happens to me often too. Good to see a bug report on it.

I've actually wondered if there's a persistent network connection problem with the device. Randomly my IM accounts will disconnect and reconnect (whether on wifi or 3G), and when on WiFi if I don't touch the phone for a bit, I can't ping it from my desktop or SSH to it. If I ping out from the N900 it "wakes up" the internet connection and I can then ping/ssh from desktop. Causes my IRC to disconnect randomly as well.

Really can get annoying :D. I usually don't have to reboot over it though..

jaysire 2010-06-11 17:13

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I reboot every day when I change the battery. I have an external charger and always swap the battery (take the full one from the charger and put the used on in).

steveiow 2010-06-11 17:18

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Im beginning to think that maybe mine has a fault.. Its so annoying that I'm considering not using it anymore and just using one of my other phones instead.

Its a shame because I really like the N900..

I dont seem to be able to update anything on it either..

Mowgli 2010-06-11 17:20

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I reboot every day once because if I run it straight for 2 or more days desktop icons become very unresponsive.

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 17:36

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steveiow (Post 710880)
Im beginning to think that maybe mine has a fault.. Its so annoying that I'm considering not using it anymore and just using one of my other phones instead.

Its a shame because I really like the N900..

I dont seem to be able to update anything on it either..

You may want to search around or open a new thread on your specific problem so we can help.

For example: Your inability to update I assume is from the App Manager, try running:
Code:

apt-get update && apt-get -f install
In a terminal and let me know the output.

ETA: I see now your signal problem. That probably can be trouble shot as well in another thread (if there isn't one already on it.)

RFS-81 2010-06-11 17:36

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

~ $ uptime
20:33:04 up 5 days, 22:20, load average: 0.73, 1.04, 0.87
That's when I flashed it with PR1.2.

clasificado 2010-06-11 17:40

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
everyday. i have two batteries

biggzy 2010-06-11 17:45

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Depends what im doing realy, if im just using my device as normal i reboot around every few days, if im modding my device then in one night i could easily reboot 20+ times, depending on what im modding.

PradaBrada 2010-06-11 17:46

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Once every two days, to keep the thing from getting laggy.

steveiow 2010-06-11 17:47

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 710904)
You may want to search around or open a new thread on your specific problem so we can help.

For example: Your inability to update I assume is from the App Manager, try running:
Code:

apt-get update && apt-get -f install
In a terminal and let me know the output.

ETA: I see now your signal problem. That probably can be trouble shot as well in another thread (if there isn't one already on it.)




i got this :

E: could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)
E: unable to lock the list directory

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 17:51

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steveiow (Post 710922)
i got this :

E: could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)
E: unable to lock the list directory

Sorry, forgot to mention you need to be root.

Code:

sudo gainroot
apt-get update && apt-get -f install


jaysire 2010-06-11 17:55

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 710925)
Sorry, forgot to mention you need to be root.

And you probably need to close the App Manager as well.

steveiow 2010-06-11 18:08

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 710925)
Sorry, forgot to mention you need to be root.

Code:

sudo gainroot
apt-get update && apt-get -f install




ive now got the letter 'y' scrolling up the screen very fast

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 18:09

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steveiow (Post 710945)
ive now got the letter 'y' scrolling up the screen very fast

:eek:

All it does is repeat "y" over and over?

steveiow 2010-06-11 18:11

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 710947)
:eek:

All it does is repeat "y" over and over?


yes... it asked if i was root so i typed yes and then the 'y' s started to scrfoll

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 18:11

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Hit CTRL+C to stop it.

Scroll up and see if you can find the exact question it asked. You shouldn't get asked if you are root...

steveiow 2010-06-11 18:21

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
it asked....... 'are you root'

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 18:24

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I need you to post more so I can send you private messages.. lol. I didn't want to hijack this thread. Maybe a mod can strip these out and form a new thread for you to help with the problems.

I'll need the full output from before the "y's" starting, including the command you ran as a copy & paste from the terminal if at all possible.

Also: Usually I don't recommend this until after troubleshooting falls short - but it's always a possibility (if you haven't already tried) to just reflash the phone (not the eMMC, just the main flash); you can use the backup tool to save all your contacts/messages and stuff. I never lose anything when doing it. This way you start clean and may even solve your radio/network problems while driving.

steveiow 2010-06-11 23:13

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso26+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ sudo gainroot apt-get update && apt-get -f install
Enable RD mode if you want to break your device
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
~ $ yes

atilla 2010-06-12 08:23

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
first sudo gainroot and enter
then the rest
dont forget to install rootsh from devel

geneven 2010-06-12 08:35

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
I almost never charge my N900. I charge batteries on my separate charger. I reboot only when I swap batteries. If there was a capacitor so I didn't have to reboot then (it's been suggested before but the suggestion was ignored) I wouldn't reboot at all.

By the way, it seems to me if so many people think they benefit from rebooting, couldn't someone write an app that refreshes some processes or something so rebooting wasn't necessary?

steveiow 2010-06-12 09:19

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
rootsh from devel.. there seems to be lots of different versions of it.. which one do i install ??
You'll have to forgive my ignorance cos im very new to all this stuff.. (but im willing to learn and looking forward to the challenge:D)
So how many posts do I need to have made before I can send and receive PM's

geneven 2010-06-12 09:26

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steveiow (Post 711758)
rootsh from devel.. there seems to be lots of different versions of it.. which one do i install ??
You'll have to forgive my ignorance cos im very new to all this stuff.. (but im willing to learn and looking forward to the challenge:D)
So how many posts do I need to have made before I can send and receive PM's

That question has nothing to do with this thread.

There is only one rootsh if you open App Mgr and find it.

felbutss 2010-06-12 09:38

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
everyday
......

timoph 2010-06-12 09:39

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Only if the battery dies. Current uptime 16 days

EmmaGx 2010-06-12 10:34

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
... before the update my phone got noticably laggy after a few days ... afterwards I had issues with yellownotes/twitter widget and was rebooting hourly ... but since I don't think I've felt the need to reboot ...

benny1967 2010-06-12 10:40

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
hardly ever. i remember i had to pull out the battery 2 weeks ago because the n900 didn't react any more... and when i did it, i thought "well, good that this happened, maybe a fresh boot isn't that bad after all."

i have a second n900 that gets more re-boots because i play more with it - things i expect to go wrong.

JorgeFX 2010-06-12 10:43

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 711717)
By the way, it seems to me if so many people think they benefit from rebooting, couldn't someone write an app that refreshes some processes or something so rebooting wasn't necessary?

I made a very little script that kill some processes for gaining some speed without reboot, based in some threads I read. In PR1.1.1 it worked very well but it is incomplete for the goal you want to achieve. In PR1.2 it doesn't help much, I don't know why yet. It seems to be that in PR1.2 other processes are guilty for making the device slow after one or two days of use.

Anyway, I attached the script. There is a line that can be added and very usefull: killall browser browserd
I didn't added it because I have the browser open most of the time and I don't want it to be closed.

Maybe we can make a better script with help of the comunity ;) GOD bless you ALL ;)

JorgeFX 2010-07-22 08:30

Re: How often do you reboot?
 
Check this thread I made:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58935 :)


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