Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

I still haven't seen anything that comes close to it --- either made by Nokia, Archos or anybody else. Have you seen any device that is just as good?

* Similar screen size
* Pull out keyboard (NO VIRTUAL!)
* USB host
* Open OS
* Wifi, bluetooth, etc.
* Easy Debian (for Open Office)
* Moderate, affordable price
* Slots for expanding memory
* Capable of running various OSes (with or without flashing)

Just want to know what my options are for the future. I just don't see any options right now. :)

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
H.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Errr, the N900???!

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Errr, no!!!!

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Errr, then why not? The N900 seems to fit the specs well. Except maybe for the "Moderate, affordable price" bit...

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The pandora would come closer than the n900. The specs are about the same as for the n900, but without the phone functionality.

http://www.open-pandora.org/

It may take a while before you could get your hands on one, though:
"Please check back regularly to find out when preordering for the second batch starts."

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That one's a bit subjective, but it does fails these:

To answer the original question, check the competitors forum for various SmartQ/SmartV and Optima devices.

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There's the PsiXPDA http://psixpda.com/content/psixpda-pocket-computer

Which is a 5" touchscreen device, with similar design to an N97, but obviously a bit larger. 16GB of storage internally + a microSD slot and it retails for £449 (UK) including XP.

It's atom based so should run linux. They are willing to sell it without Windows though, so it would be interesting to see what it came down to.

Other than that I don't know of anything closer than the N900. the Dell streak, and the archos units are interesting, but do not have physical keyboards, and I miss the keyboard even when I use ny N800!

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I considered one, ended up buying a Fujitsu U2010 (aka U820). My n800 is now at home waiting for Mer or something similar to revive it.

The Dell Streak is a spiritual successor to the n800 IMHO, am very tempted by it, if I didn't have the U820 then I'd have one by now - the dock with its HDMI out is very appealing to make it a proper multi-media capable handheld.

I was hoping that there'd be a nokia n910, an n810 with an n900's guts, or even slightly bigger - the stereo speakers in the n800 were very good, was an excellent bed-side computer.

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Unfortunately, it uses the GMA500, which makes running Linux a challenge.

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Thanks, guys! I will wait patiently, but if I find anything, I will report back ASAP.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Yes
Look at the specs of the
Toshiba dynapocket L01 Specs

It beats the N810 hands down

Also its coming out in July#

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&i...dynapocket_l01

CPU+Clock: 1000 MHz
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250
Browse devices based on this microprocessor
Memory,:Storage-capacity
RAM:capacity: 256 MiB
ROM_capacity: 512 MiB
Display
Display-Type: color transflective TFT , 65536 scales
Display_Diagonal: 7 "
Display;Resolution: 480 x 800

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

And for the "* Similar screen size" IMO.

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That fails the Open OS requirement, as Windows Mobile was not open last I checked. And it makes the "other OSes" real hard, since you'll spend more time porting the kernel than doing anything else.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

maybe aigopad n520

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gigabyte m528 sposed to release soon

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

If it takes two hands to hold it, it's too big! :)

gigabyte M528

• Wow! This looks like it could be a real contender! It's like an n820 or n880 or something like that. It run Ubuntu and OpenOffice!!! Will definitely be keeping an eye on this one. Thank you!
  
• Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76NviXg_1g4 (with a verbal reference to the N810)!!!
  
• Unboxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5UY7Mt9Dc and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXy8fjdQjkA
  
• I wonder why it's release has been delayed for sooo long since it was announced in 2008.
  
• Comparison review: n810 vs. m520: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/...te-m528-review

SFR M! PC Pocket MID

• Check out this other video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ynXRDmIho
• It looks like a m528
• It is runniing (what looking like) a full version of Ubuntu!!
• Looks like these devices are the same hardware, but provided by different companies!

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

It seems a bit too bulky, and the intel atom isn't as power efficient as an arm, so even the 2700mAh battery won't last very long.
On the plus side it could probably run any standard desktop distribution, provided that the hardware, unlike nokia, is supported by the stock kernel.

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Yeah, that was the COOOOLEST part! :) Seeing a full Ubuntu desktop (in the video) on such a small device was AMAZING! I would love to have a device that does that (provided it is as power efficient as the N810.)

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Awesome- there's a wifi only version of the Dell Streak

Gotta wait til September though. I kinda wanted a device without 3g

No word yet on Archos' new tablet : /

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RE: Dell Streak

Anyone here from the UK have one yet?

& More importantly, has anyone gotten Meego to run on one? ;)

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That looks so cute !!! :D Somebody cross-bred an NES controller with an n810 !!! :eek:

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That looks really sweet ...
Totally useless though if it won't run linux :-[ :(

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

It's an interesting topic/question and one that I keep coming back to.
The M528 seems interesting but it's now a 2+ year old device and if you go to gigabyte's homepage it's listed under the 'Legacy' category so not sure what to make out of that.

If it was available in the US today at a reasonable price I would, however, still be interested.

Anyone know of ANY other wifi-enabled touchscreen devices without phone but with a h/w keyboard like the N810 - that can run Android or Ubuntu?

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

yeah.
If n810 had more powerfull cpu and a bit more ram and run any other free (without Nokia's licenses) OS, plus IRda and some buttons on the top panel (like n800) - it would be da best MID for me.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

There's the EKing S515 with resistive touchscreen..: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7tbC2-kL2U

It looks pretty nice and it can run Ubuntu and has a USB port.

Here showing Skype video call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq30eHTF6HE


I'm really like the Viliv N5 look though, but not sure if this could run Android or Ubuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wnyynkHh9c

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Viliv N5 And UMID BZ run linux, WIFI enabled. You can run the Android live CD ISO too using virtualbox. UMID has 5-6 hrs of WIFI life to boot.

Best to read about such things on here:

http://forum.pocketables.net/forumdisplay.php?f=65

What you are ideally looking for on second thoughts is the Sharp Netwalker which natively runs Ubuntu and can run Android:

http://androidzaurus.seesaa.net/article/130268081.html

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Yeah, Viliv S5 is very, versy nice.
By the way, I gonna buy Viliv S7 next month :)

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

I have the s5 but the N5 has a nice keyboard, n5 battery life is much poorer though!

S7 is great, can make calls from it too I think. But I only use pocketable devices mainly!

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

I think so far the Viliv N5 running Linux would be the closest to a 'new N810' for me.

Been drooling over this for a bit: http://www.dynamism.com/notebooks/viliv-n5.shtml

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Check the work done here for linux on this device
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/ne...=7704&forum=45

especially the ectool program provided by Yukyung/Viliv.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Do they have GPS built in?

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From at least one of those videos is a link to http://www.umpcportal.com/products/ which gives a nice table showing a lot of these with their specs. :D

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14 ounces ... too big for me as a replacement for the NIT. I don't need a hard drive and its weight; SD cards seem perfect for this application. Apart from that, though, it looks great.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

on the subject of GMA500.. don't let it totally dissuade you away from, say, the Fujitsu U820 (aka U2010). It's a great machine, and you can get linux working on it pretty well with accelerate video, it's not too hard but it isn't trivial.

there's now a pre-prepared ubuntu with the drivers installed up-front, so that's a real step forward
http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?t=6192

I am very happy with my U2010, I don't know what I'd replace it with if it broke, there's nothing quite like it around, it really does do the job of a handheld linux laptop.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

The Sharp Netwalker (successor to the Zaurus line) [http://pricejapan.com/front/e_good_i...76&category=5] seems to be about the closest to an n810 successor that I've seen. 5 inch display, keyboard, wifi/bluetooth, Ubuntu OS, ARM-based Freescale CPU, MicroSDHC (the N810 has dual full size SD, but the micro cards have come up in capacity), 4GB internal flash, 512MB RAM. Street price in US seems to float around $500.00

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Htc Shift? You can buy it for 300€ (used) and it's a full PC

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Doesn't begin to compare with the N810. Too bulky, too heavy, too powerhungry.

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Agreed with lma. Some of us are looking for a "MID" form-factor not UMPC. Pocketable is key. ARM > x86 as far as battery life is concerned.

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 

Well in terms of hardware, but in terms software they make devices that do the same things.

Most device devices these days have a 3.5inch, 3.7inch, 4.8inch, or 4.3inch screen
It kinda sucks having a slide out keyboard is uncommon on devices that aren't cellphones. If you need that get an OpenPandora or UMPC
Well Archos devices http://www.archos.com/ and SmartQ http://en.smartdevices.com.cn/index.html devices have that
Well the OpenPandora runs Angstrom which is similar to Maemo in many ways and runs similar applications. Archos devices run Android and also offer Angstrom as an alternative firmware. SmartQ device run Android and a modified version Ubuntu (which can run the majority of Linux applications)
That isn't an issue pretty much every device these days has that.
Easy Debian ran like crap, but only Maemo device run that as far as I know.
You can find Archos devices for around 200-300 dollars, SmartQ devices are usually 100-140 dollars for there 4.3inch model and 200-280 dollars for there 7inch models. The OpenPandora can be found for 350 dollars.
Also very common the only device that don't have that are Apple devices.
Any UMPC should let you do that. SmartQ devices can do that without much effort and come with multiple oses out of the box. Archos has always offered a special developer edition firmware that has Angstrom (similar to Maemo) and the community has created several. The OpenPandora can also run several oses.

In terms of hardware there is simply nothing similar to the form factor on the Nokia n810. But there are many devices that are capable of running multiple oses and doing Linux things.