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Snaps 2010-07-01 11:22

[MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
So I installed Mobile Hot Spot, because I will be on a train for 6 hours and I need Internet on my Lap Top.

But every time I try to test it, it just says "HotSpot failed to start"

Any ideas on how I can fix this?

hermooz 2010-07-01 13:52

Re: Mobile HotSpot issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaps (Post 736936)
But every time I try to test it, it just says "HotSpot failed to start"

Mobile hotspot installs a custom kernel as a prerequisite, did you reboot the device after installing it? If not you've still the original kernel loaded and M.H. can't work.

bye!

ivnvir 2010-07-01 13:53

Re: Mobile HotSpot issue
 
check if wifi is on (wifi switcher can turn it off/on) and/or try starting it in x-terminal to see the log messages

Snaps 2010-07-01 14:17

Re: Mobile HotSpot issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hermooz (Post 737115)
Mobile hotspot installs a custom kernel as a prerequisite, did you reboot the device after installing it? If not you've still the original kernel loaded and M.H. can't work.

bye!

I did restart it. I then reflashed my phone, and HotSpot was on the phone after the reflash.

joshv06 2010-07-01 14:30

Re: Mobile HotSpot issue
 
Do you have Nmap installed?

handaxe 2010-07-01 14:30

Re: Mobile HotSpot issue
 
I would uninstall & reinstall just to be safe.

HotSpot wants to establish the data connection itself. It failed for me when I had a pre-existing connection, but worked when I started with none. This may of course be worthless info in your case...
HA

Snaps 2010-07-01 14:38

Re: Mobile HotSpot issue
 
I dont have Nmap installed. Ill try to reinstall it and start the connection without 3G or wifi on

Snaps 2010-07-07 10:28

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Just uninstalled Mobile HotSpot and reinstalled it, and restarted the phone. Still not working. Any other suggestions?

handaxe 2010-07-07 20:19

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
If you have followed all the steps described above and it doesn't work, then some error message is needed to figure what is wrong. What gets displayed if u open an X term and type
Code:

mobilehotspot
Also note that using the USB cable the n900 can serve as a hsdpa/umts modem for a connected PC. That seems to be your use case, not so and is simpler tan mobilehotspot. Search the forums if you need info.
Goodluck, HA

kolos 2010-07-07 20:41

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaps (Post 743535)
Just uninstalled Mobile HotSpot and reinstalled it, and restarted the phone. Still not working. Any other suggestions?

First, you must have installed Enhanced Linux kernel.

Second, beside mobilehotspot you must install iptables and wireless-tools.

Do you have all that?

handaxe 2010-07-07 22:33

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Aah, the kernel etc. good thinking irrespective of whether right or wrong ..... one shouldn't assume ...

HeavyComponent 2010-07-07 22:37

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kolos (Post 744141)
First, you must have installed Enhanced Linux kernel.

Second, beside mobilehotspot you must install iptables and wireless-tools.

Do you have all that?

Didn't know about those! Maybe that's why mine never worked. I could connect with my iPod Touch, but for some reason my Safari could never open a page.

Will install those and see what happens.

EDIT: Is "iptables" and "wireless-tools" under a different name? I can't seem to find those.

kolos 2010-07-08 06:07

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Default Maemo kernel doesn't have some modules, so it must be replaced with titan's enhanced kernel which could be also used for overclocking N900.

Next step is to install iptables and wireless-tools with mobilehotspot.

The easiest way to do is:

1. connect the phone with internet (wi-fi or 2G/3G);
2. enable repository extras-devel in Application manager and then close Application manager;
3. open X Terminal;
4. type sudo gainroot and confirm it with enter key;
5. this step is not necessary, type apt-get update and confirm it with enter;
6. type apt-get install iptables wireless-tools mobilehotspot and confirm it with enter;
7. after installation is done, type reboot to restart the phone;
8. open mobilehotspot, set WEP Encryption password (5 or 13 characters), Network name and Connection, but do not be connected with internet;
9. then press on button Start to start with wi-fi tethering.

HeavyComponent 2010-07-08 15:01

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Kolos,

Donot connect to internet? What should we be connected to?

kolos 2010-07-08 15:26

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyComponent (Post 745005)
Kolos,

Donot connect to internet? What should we be connected to?

That's really tricky question ;).

I meant to let mobilehotspot to make connection, after you press Start button.

kolos 2010-07-08 15:32

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
If you read carefully my guide "do not be connected" is under step 8, which is before step 9 - "press Start button". ;)

HeavyComponent 2010-07-08 19:57

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Read it wrong, but I went through the steps and my iPod Touch Safari still can't find a page (any page) I want to go to. Everything connects, but the internet is not going through.

kolos 2010-07-08 21:07

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyComponent (Post 745274)
Read it wrong, but I went through the steps and my iPod Touch Safari still can't find a page (any page) I want to go to. Everything connects, but the internet is not going through.

Did you installed also enhanced kernel?

Another thing, did you try to connect with N900 other device (laptop...) and try to browse with it?

Also, when the iPod is connected, did you try to browse with N900 to check internet connecton directly from N900?

HeavyComponent 2010-07-09 01:06

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
kolos,

I already had enhanced kernel installed.

I don't have my laptop at the moment so I used my HTC HD2 and for some reason it can't find my N900. Then again my iPod Touch finds it everytime. :confused:

When I connected my iPod, I tried to browse from my N900 and the internet is working fine.

On my iPod it has the following...

IP Address
Subnet Mask
Router
DNS

Search Domains is empty
Client ID is empty

kolos 2010-07-09 06:30

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Why HD2 doesn't find N900 is probably because Windows OS problem. I had the same problem with laptop which has Win XP SP2, but didn't have this issue with Vista and Windows 7. Try to disable WEP Encryption in MobileHotSpot and than, if HD2 finds N900, set Encryption back and try it again.

HeavyComponent 2010-07-10 00:33

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Will do as soon as I get a chance, I will post back when I do.

Thanks!

HeavyComponent 2010-07-10 02:43

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
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kolos,

I tried what you said about removing the WEP and still no go. The HTC HD2 still can't find my N900. I tried it with another HD2 and it's the same results.

One thing I do want to mention is that because I think it's a problem. When I pick the connection which is the first option in Mobilehotspot. I have duplicates. Mind you I only have 2 connections to choose from which is my regular T-Mobile Internet and the MMS connection I setup for FMMS.

Screen shot attached to show what I mean.

It switches up to either show duplicates of T-Mobile Internet or T-Mobile MMS.

Anyone have this issue?

kolos 2010-07-10 08:56

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
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HeavyComponent,

This issue with multiple MMS access points could be resolved if you delete them, because you actually don't need them anymore after fMMS v1.x.x has settings for MMS access point included in its interface.

HeavyComponent 2010-07-10 12:29

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Oh ok, I will remove my settings and give it another try.

HeavyComponent 2010-07-10 15:54

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Removed the settings that I created and left it as default. Clicked on start and my iPod finds it, connects but still can't connect to the internet. Used 2 HD2's to find the N900 and they can't find it.

Might have to give the other application a try.

tangs 2010-07-12 12:56

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
i can t connect myself too, in xterminal i ve got this :


ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.84:/com/nokia/icd2: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unsupported interface or method

any suggestions ?

superman 2010-08-29 00:09

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kolos (Post 744141)
First, you must have installed Enhanced Linux kernel.

Second, beside mobilehotspot you must install iptables and wireless-tools.

Do you have all that?

I have the same issue, when type mobilehotspot in x-term, the app opens, it sees my ISP connection, but fails to star

i have nmap install

can you help with a link to Enhanced Linux kernel and iptables installation files?

your help is appreciated
thanks!

superman 2010-08-29 01:36

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kolos (Post 744514)
Default Maemo kernel doesn't have some modules, so it must be replaced with titan's enhanced kernel which could be also used for overclocking N900.

Next step is to install iptables and wireless-tools with mobilehotspot.

The easiest way to do is:

1. connect the phone with internet (wi-fi or 2G/3G);
2. enable repository extras-devel in Application manager and then close Application manager;
3. open X Terminal;
4. type sudo gainroot and confirm it with enter key;
5. this step is not necessary, type apt-get update and confirm it with enter;
6. type apt-get install iptables wireless-tools mobilehotspot and confirm it with enter;
7. after installation is done, type reboot to restart the phone;
8. open mobilehotspot, set WEP Encryption password (5 or 13 characters), Network name and Connection, but do not be connected with internet;
9. then press on button Start to start with wi-fi tethering.


Great article!
followed the instruction and it just works!
the new kernel is a must! after that all just work.

thank you! you've been more than helpful

Tedri Mark 2010-08-30 20:22

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
I have varying levels of success with this, problems arise for me when two or more computers try to share the connection. If i set a netork with say the name 'n900' I find after a while something goes wrong, and I lose internet connection even though it says I am still connected to 'n900', and even after shutting down mobile hotspot, and even the n900 istelf 'n900' still shows up in the list of available networks, or sometimes it will show that I am connected to it in the taskbar even though it does not show up in the list.. Is this because it is seen as a peer to peer network?

The only way I can fix it is to start a new network with a different name, and the old networks are still showing up, even when I chose a network to connect to from the n900 itself..

eciraje 2010-09-16 21:07

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kolos (Post 745370)
Did you installed also enhanced kernel?

Another thing, did you try to connect with N900 other device (laptop...) and try to browse with it?

Also, when the iPod is connected, did you try to browse with N900 to check internet connecton directly from N900?

Where i can find the enhanced kerne

kolos 2010-09-17 06:01

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eciraje (Post 818331)
Where i can find the enhanced kerne

Here you have kernel and settings. I think if you select to install kernel, it will also automatically install settings.

James_Littler 2010-09-29 20:26

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
I've got a strange problem.
I'm tring to use MobileHotSpot to connect my laptop to the net via 3G but when I start the connection in MobileHotSpot it says its using orange internet but if I bring up the status menu it shows that I'm connected to MMS.

I have fmms installed but my access point is called orangemms and in MobileHotSpot under connection only orange internet is visable, no mention of any mms connection.

Has anyone got any ideas?

James_Littler 2010-09-30 09:26

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
If I change the wireless connection to orange internet once mobilehotspot is connected I can browse using n900 and connect to it using laptop but still cant browse the net on the laptop.

Is the only way to solve this to uninstall fmms (which I use regularly)?

Viny 2010-09-30 09:48

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
I dont think this works with the 9.99 t-mobile internet option does it? or am i having bad luck? i know normal(wired theathering wont work)

Crogge 2010-09-30 14:08

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
I get the following error when I start Mobilehotspot:

Code:

ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.85:/com/Nokia/icd2: dbus.exceptions.DBus.Exception: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unsupported interface or method
Anyone has an idea what it could mean?

Rapparee 2010-11-01 14:13

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Can some one possably help with this related thread?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...=mobilehotspot

kevinp93 2010-11-16 14:18

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Ok so i stumbled accross this thread because Mobile Hotspot failed to start. And thanks to kolos' guide, that works. The problem now is that I can't connect my Nokia N8 and Nokia E52 to my mobile. They both find the network, they connect but the web browser remains blank.. :( Any solution to this? Thanks

joshv06 2010-11-16 14:23

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Littler (Post 829620)
I've got a strange problem.
I'm tring to use MobileHotSpot to connect my laptop to the net via 3G but when I start the connection in MobileHotSpot it says its using orange internet but if I bring up the status menu it shows that I'm connected to MMS.

I have fmms installed but my access point is called orangemms and in MobileHotSpot under connection only orange internet is visable, no mention of any mms connection.

Has anyone got any ideas?

I have the same problem, why does it keep connecting to MMS?

kolos 2010-11-16 20:54

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 875058)
Ok so i stumbled accross this thread because Mobile Hotspot failed to start. And thanks to kolos' guide, that works. The problem now is that I can't connect my Nokia N8 and Nokia E52 to my mobile. They both find the network, they connect but the web browser remains blank.. :( Any solution to this? Thanks

I tested connection with N95 today, after I saw your post. It was my first try with firmware PR1.3. In few first attempts I had similar problem as you, N95 established connection with N900 but couldn't open any website. I don't know what caused the problem, because after I played around with wifi and mobilehotspot (MHS) settings on N900, I return them back as they were from beginning and now MHS works as it should. :confused:

Just few tips:
1. Disconnect N900 from 2G/3G internet before opening MHS.
2. For beginning disable encryption.
3. When you hit "Start" button MHS should automatically establish 2G/3G connection (or offer you to do it manually after failed attempt).

4. If you still can't open websites with N8/E52, check how is doing N900's browser while you sharing connection.

Maybe you should also try to set power transmission on "100mW" and power saving on "off". I have power saving on "On (intermediate)".

These setting are under:
Menu -> Settings -> Internet connection -> Connections -> mark any wifi connection -> Edit -> Next -> Next -> Next -> Advanced -> tab Other.

quanttrom 2011-01-19 02:22

Re: [MobileHotSpot] connection issue
 
I am experiencing an intermittent issue where sometimes the Hotspot created cannot be found. Once it is started and visible , it works fine.It is as if the Wifi card on the N900 never enters Ad-Hoc mode.

Is anybody else experiencing that?


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