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cardiff-blues 2010-07-02 09:49

Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
I haven't seen this in OVI before. Is this new?
http://store.ovi.com/content/43941?c...a=applications

F2thaK 2010-07-02 09:54

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what is with the screenshots?

http://p.d.ovi.com/p/g/store/1466165...ot-192x192.png

cardiff-blues 2010-07-02 09:59

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I can't download it anyway. Says sorry not available in your language. Which is pretty silly.

DonPIZI 2010-07-02 10:10

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If I go to this link ovi says me "internal server error" ...

slender 2010-07-02 10:11

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@f2thak,
It´s Nokia's QA. Looks like someone sent transparent screen captures and someone forgot to check them :|

benny1967 2010-07-02 10:12

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Two others are new: Bhutan Traveller and Baking Calculator. Screenshots look hardly inviting.

weißelstone 2010-07-02 10:23

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Looks like the extras repository has a better QA than the Ovi Store :p
Baking Calculator wouldn't make it over extras-devel

peter@instinctiv.com 2010-07-02 18:56

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Hi Guys,

I'm one of the Instinctiv developers. We're working closely with Nokia to get these issues resolved. We're told it'll be about a 12 hours before this is all sorted out. Sorry for the bumpy launch!

DonPIZI 2010-07-02 19:03

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Ok, I'll wait... ;)
Tomorrow in the morning I'll testing it once again and when it doesn't work than...


I'll wait another few hours ;)

Zekahz 2010-07-04 07:41

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App works now. It looks nice but sound doesn't work in no sound profile. I also can not get out of portrait mode. Cool is that it sometimes find the albumart for songs that doesn't have albumart.

mr_bridger 2010-07-04 08:22

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ive tried downloading, but nothing happening for me. refreshed and it says ive downloaded.... but i havent.

devensega 2010-07-04 08:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_bridger (Post 740168)
ive tried downloading, but nothing happening for me. refreshed and it says ive downloaded.... but i havent.

I had this. I downloaded it again and just left app manager on for ages, eventualy it caught and installed.

now I have it though it wont display any of my album art. Its there on some of my albums as mplayer displays them.

Dr.MZ 2010-07-04 08:40

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Could someone, in which it is running, please take a few screenshots

devensega 2010-07-04 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.MZ (Post 740181)
Could someone, in which it is running, please take a few screenshots

ok.

Attachment 11719

Attachment 11720

No album art though.

ericj23 2010-07-04 09:04

Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
good things - i can fast forward through my flac files

less good - portrait only
no album art
doesnt read playlists
no gapless audio playback (no maemo players have this - first one to get has me as a customer)

even though the less good is a longerlist i do rather like this

devensega 2010-07-04 09:05

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And now album art has started working.....nice

Attachment 11721

bill.d 2010-07-04 10:00

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hmmm ive downloaded it but when i launch it opens to a screen with libary and shuffle but then it closes itself everytime.

spag 2010-07-04 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill.d (Post 740224)
hmmm ive downloaded it but when i launch it opens to a screen with libary and shuffle but then it closes itself everytime.

Same here.

Code:

instinctiv: json.c:891: _preread: Assertion `!key' failed.
Segmentation fault


maluka 2010-07-04 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill.d (Post 740224)
hmmm ive downloaded it but when i launch it opens to a screen with libary and shuffle but then it closes itself everytime.

Same, crashes on startup.

michou 2010-07-04 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devensega (Post 740199)
And now album art has started working.....nice

How did you get the album art to work?
Is there another way to get album art working besides installing the Instinctiv desktop software. Which apparently is only available for Max OS X.

jaysire 2010-07-04 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devensega (Post 740199)
And now album art has started working.....nice

Wrong. It didn't start working. You just screenshotted another part of the program ;) I have album art in the "now playing view", but none in the list of albums.

devensega 2010-07-04 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 740300)
Wrong. It didn't start working. You just screenshotted another part of the program ;) I have album art in the "now playing view", but none in the list of albums.

Quite right, still no artwork in menu view it seems. I knew it was there somewhere though.:o

esthreel 2010-07-04 21:47

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Hm.. Where is search??? (with 32GB of memory this is a MUST)

daddeddad 2010-07-04 22:26

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The app works for me, and it looks very nice. But it is very very slow and unusable for this reason. Searching in songs causes stuttering and it is unbearable to multitask with music playing in the background. If this app gets optimized it will be quite nice, but for now a no-go.

Phreaker 2010-07-05 04:31

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i love the app,
thou a few things,
would be nice if playback paused then headphones were removed,
would be nice to be able to use in landscape mode,
and most important would be nice if it was optimized as i am seeing 100% and the phone becomes rather unusable.

oh and a windows 7 client would be golden. once these things "at least the last 2" have been implemented this will be my player of choice.

thanks thou i love it so far!

HellFlyer 2010-07-05 04:40

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good thing it has portarait mode but everything else sucks :( it lags too much even on my overclocked 900Mhz phone, uninstalled already! I dont expect to see a new version anytime soon

btw was there an single app from Ovi store that ever received an update?

Descalzo 2010-07-05 04:51

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Yeah: Firefox and Morphio.

El Amir 2010-07-05 05:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Descalzo (Post 740852)
Yeah: Firefox and Morphio.

Add the game "Disks" and "Electric Beams" to the list!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phreaker (Post 740842)
i love the app,

would be nice if playback paused then headphones were removed,

Doesn't the headset deamon app in extras handle that?

Descalzo 2010-07-05 05:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Amir (Post 740861)
Add the game "Disks" and "Electric Beams" to the list!



Doesn't the headset deamon app in extras handle that?

Nope. I've only had it work in the standard Media Player. I've tested it in NQAAP, and it doesn't work there.

HellFlyer 2010-07-05 05:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Amir (Post 740861)
Add the game "Disks" and "Electric Beams" to the list!



Doesn't the headset deamon app in extras handle that?

nice , i gonna download them now

as for headset daemon i think it only works with default media player and panuchi

El Amir 2010-07-05 05:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Descalzo (Post 740864)
Nope. I've only had it work in the standard Media Player. I've tested it in NQAAP, and it doesn't work there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 740865)
as for headset daemon i think it only works with default media player and panuchi

I see, but maybe we can contact the author of the deamon and ask him to support more players? Or do we ask the authors of the media apps to have a look at how the deamon works and ask them to slightly adapt their code?

Haus3r 2010-07-05 07:13

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Downloaded it last night. Instinctive is by far the best looking and most most intuitive application I've seen since months.

I agree it's still a bit laggy, cover art in the Database is not working, and Landscape mode is not supported, but it's definitely a step in the right direction, and I'd very much like to see more!

EDIT: It's missing its own volume slider, and the 'Instinctive Shuffle' Option chose to only play songs from 2 artists out of possible +100, despite skipping every song [which should tell the program to play less songs 'like the one I just skipped'. Well, it doesnt :D] It just loops them now :mad:

jaeezzy 2010-07-05 12:30

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Ok I downloaded it but doesn't start. Once the UI came up but crashed immediately. Anyone else having this issue?

Rob1n 2010-07-05 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeezzy (Post 741191)
Ok I downloaded it but doesn't start. Once the UI came up but crashed immediately. Anyone else having this issue?

I don't even get the UI up. Running from the command-line reports a whole load of version information errors with the various libav* libraries, ending with:
Quote:

/opt/instinctiv/instinctiv: relocation_error: /opt/instinctiv/instinctiv: symbol __aeabi_d2lz, version LIBAVCODEC_52 not defined in file libavcodec.so.52 with link time reference
Given that libavcodec isn't in the main extras repository, I'm not sure where it's installed from for users without -testing/-devel enabled, but presumably it's wanting a different version.

pelago 2010-07-05 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Amir (Post 740869)
I see, but maybe we can contact the author of the deamon and ask him to support more players? Or do we ask the authors of the media apps to have a look at how the deamon works and ask them to slightly adapt their code?

I think the way headponed works is that when it detects the headphones unplugged, it sends a command to all running media players to pause, using dbus. To support other media players, the media player apps need to provide a dbus interface, then headphoned needs to be updated to send a message to that dbus interface. (I may have got the terminology wrong, but it's something like that).

In other words, it requires work by the authors of both the media player and of headphoned.

ZShakespeare 2010-07-05 15:32

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I didn't think it was possible but it has even larger gaps between tracks than the default player. Portrait is nice, but it's far too slow to be useful.

peter@instinctiv.com 2010-07-05 20:39

Hi! I'm one of the developers at Instinctiv. The current version is definitely a 0.9 release for us as we gauge which areas of the app need the most polish. As for the quality of shuffle, unfortunately there was a mixup at Nokia and they posted a version that's aimed our dev servers. In other words, you're getting pretty second rate data. As soon as they post the correct version you should see a significant improvement although we're still in the process of collecting data to power that service :) ~ PB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haus3r (Post 740940)
Downloaded it last night. Instinctive is by far the best looking and most most intuitive application I've seen since months.

I agree it's still a bit laggy, cover art in the Database is not working, and Landscape mode is not supported, but it's definitely a step in the right direction, and I'd very much like to see more!

EDIT: It's missing its own volume slider, and the 'Instinctive Shuffle' Option chose to only play songs from 2 artists out of possible +100, despite skipping every song [which should tell the program to play less songs 'like the one I just skipped'. Well, it doesnt :D] It just loops them now :mad:

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Sorry, guys. There was a mixup and the wrong version of the app got posted :) We'll have this fixed for you as soon as Nokia puts up the right version. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 740300)
Wrong. It didn't start working. You just screenshotted another part of the program ;) I have album art in the "now playing view", but none in the list of albums.

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Hi. I'm one of the developers at Instinctiv. Could you give me a sense of how many songs you have on your device and whether or not the app continue to hog the CPU after the first few minutes of use? Thanks! Hopefully we can get this issue taken care of quickly! :) ~ PB
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Yikes! I'm one of the developers at Instinctiv. If you're up for it, I'd love to do some live troubleshoot with you so we can get to the bottom of this bug. If you have skype or aim, email me your screen name and a good time to reach you (as well your timezone) at peter @† instinctiv dot com. ~ PB

pwannell 2010-07-05 20:58

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brilliant piece of software, lovely UI and it works.....bring on more apps as good as this.

puiradu 2010-07-05 21:16

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Hi Peter! Nice to meet you!
Your app is really a nice one... I will attach some screenshots to see the bugs are we confronting right now.
I understand that this is not the final version. Also I don't have any clue about your upcoming ones.
What I would like to see:
1. The bugs in the pictures fixed... :)
2. Abbility to play songs by choosing folders.
3. Equallizer if posible.
4. Landscape mode, maybe automated rotation.

I olso suggests to make a link on your site to allow the users to download the latest version from there.
Two questions:
1. There is another possibility to share with us 0.9 version, maybe to post it here?
2. Do you think that my requests will be implemented? Punctualy please!

Thank you!

clovis86 2010-07-05 21:41

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Hi
many thanks for this great appz
only 1 wish :D
add the support for the bh-505 commands to skip easily to next song


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