Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

First off, this is not a runt, it just might give someone out there the strength to move on from what is clearly a failed product. I have to say i have loved nokias, i have been a nokia fan since the very first phone i owned(Nokia 8210).. to name a few, ive had N95 - N958GB - E90 - iPhone 3G - N900.

I was estatic when i fisrst saw the new N900 on the adds and the spec sheet, I was one of the first to own it. Once i owned it, I really tried to love the N900, but it just got worser by the day. It seems everyone else knew it was a joke, coz when i tried to sell it, no one wanted it! or only offered to take it for almost nothing. when i sold the 3G, it practically appreciated. (im not saying apple is better, id take the N900 any day over any iPhone, including the iPhone 4)

So right now im waiting for my Nexus One. Thats the phone i should have bought from the very beginning. Oh, i ended up giving the N900 to a sibling, for free!!!

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

We have this area for this kind of posts:
http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4

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And when TRYING to deliver so called constructive "critique" care to explain a bit what do you mean by "but it just got worser by the day.". One reason for this is that people can read your opinions and usage case and then compare to it to how they use devices and make their decisions. Because right now probably you will get "fanboy" answers where people laugh at you :|

And please remember that this is community website. Firstly feedback should be sent to Nokia forums.

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Did you mean rant? Do not be offended by following, Sorry to say but right now it´s ~2/3 rant :| For me point of writing my disappointment would be that i want to LIST and EXPLAIN why something didn't work for me. So that other people might find it useful. Just saying it doesn't work and everybody is laughing is same thing as saying it´s ****. Maybe in neater package but content's informative value is exactly same, zero.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

You will realize how good the N900 is when you get your Nexus. I switched to the EVO 4G, fully regret it, nothing will beat the N900. Android has nothing on it, really.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Oh, this is a runt alright.

Enjoy your android phone.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

--> Insert your favorite n900 fanboy comment here <--

and please, if you dont mind, use the Off Topic subforum next time

because your thread are in the middle of the ones that actually want to do something in the n900 - n810 - n800 - 770

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I swear it is, de ja... vu.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=36

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

And yet only 5 (yes, FIVE) posts here on the forum... Wow, you must really have tried everything - including asking for help here in this forum - to make your N900 experience better... *sigh*

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

hey there fanboy aka runt.

you'd probably get a more proactive and productive response if your grammer was just a little better.

enjoy your new phone. you sound like the sort of person who'll be complaining about it inside 5 minutes anyway.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

"Grass is always greener on the other side " ;)

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I think you mean 'grammar'

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

So, will Google Docs run on your Google Phone?

*chuckles*

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Could you elaborate on that please?

N900 is a "failed product":
- It has a nice form factor, keyboard (very useful to me), nice screen, gps, fm radio etc. The phone is built to last, with mine surviving a very hard knock.
- It has the ability to run tons of software (including access to Debian software) without any kind of jailbreaking. And with real multitasking (ask iPhone developers how they feel about the lack of multitasking on the iPhone).
- It respects my freedom (not forcing me to use Apple or Google apps). Almost every aspect of the phone can be modified according to the wishes of the user.
- It helps me with everything related to my job and my academic tasks (from connecting to servers with ssh, to my company's vpn, to testing php/java/etc. apps directly on the phone, to having access to my code with svn/git etc. for quick corrections. I have even used LaTeX and openoffice for short edits)
- It has USB host mode capability (just imagine the possibilities when combined with a cheap portable usb keyboard and a mouse - or connected to printers, usb sticks etc.)
- It is supported by an active community with many intelligent users and able programmers

Of course I could go on, but what's the point?
With a little research on Apple (and its history), on the status of mobile telephones in USA when the iPhone was released, and on Google, one can reach interesting conclusions...

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

n900 graphic processing>nexus one
multitaskting ftw

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

@skoteinos, you just fell for the kid's "rant"..

these people enjoy having us comment on their rants. trolls maybe?

don't let these kids get in to you.
i know they're posting their gripes on N900 on purpose to get us flaming and commenting on them. and they have fun reading our replies. notice how the "AFRICA" kid hasn't replied? lol

these are obviously made up stories.

please learn to spell, if you do that, you'll learn how to use an N900 properly and appreciate it.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

The N900 is actually getting better and better, not worse! Fact: the hardware's potential is being increasingly realized by software innovations and updates. Fact: this improvement is constant. Result: as more use cases are being satisfied to a greater and greater degree, the Community beams with pride because we all chip in what we can. I love this Community, especially its solve-your-own-problems culture.

Soon, Africa, you'll probably be asking your sibling to return your N900, because the device will end up doing whatever it is you want it to do.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Eh, if the N900 had a decent amount of developers and apps available, even just a small fraction of what Android has in the Marketplace, it would be much better off. I've considered doing the same thing as the OP, and dropping my N900 and throwing the SIM in a Nexus One. My wife has a Droid and even without true multitasking and a command prompt, the apps make it worth it. Navigation is top notch, the video games rock, Android has Trapster (heck, Blackberry has Trapster).

I love my N900 and I use the heck out of it everyday, but it has not caught on with developers and there is a sever lack of apps for it. I might go for a Nexus One as well if I can find a decent price on one.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Ah-hem.
*cough*

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07..._on_nexus_one/

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Doesn't matter, it's not the phone really I'm out for. There's plenty of hardware that can run Android. I'm interested in the Nexus one because I can get it unlocked and there's a version that works with T-Mobile. SImple to just swap SIM cards and be done with it. Besides, if they really did kill it...cool, that means that used ones will be cheap.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Thanks for reminding me, I was to suggest a moderation system for meego.com

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Slightly off-topic ... but I would be nterested to know why the EVO4G fails in comparison to the N900... actually I am also thinking of going the EVO 4G way... the screen is a big plus. Haven't used Android ever as yet so some points would be good.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

So, it is a runt.

Very original. I am sure everyone here has been dying to know of your experience.

As you are still waiting for it, what makes you think you should have bought it from the beginning?

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Yet ANOTHER useless thread... Ok, you don't like the phone and bought a new one - WHO CARES?! Really?! No, I don't care reading reviews in favour or against the N900, but reviews at least have some informative value - what does a useless rant have, besides the usual slender? :rolleyes:

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Honest to god I never meant to offend anyone. Iv been an avid supporter of the N900, what killed it for me mostly is that Nokia themselves don't seem to really care much about it for one, I happened to port android to the n900 through the help of some pple here and i loved it, it's not as closed as iPhone nor is it as immature as maemo. That's just my opinion.

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exactly... Sooner or later, these die hard N900 users will realize that Nokia don't care about the n900 their energy it seems is towards meego or what ever they might call it in couple months from now. Getting them to fix basic stuff and getting support from them is a nightmare. I too love my N900 but i have come to realize the n900 days are numbered and i am really pissed at Nokia for the way they have treated and handled the N900. Just like what sony did with the Xperia i see nokia doing the same thing with the n900. I hated how Sony treated its customers who payed top $$$ for the Sony Xperia X1... Came over to Nokia and i am getting the same **** from them. No ovi store support, no REAL GPS maps.... didn't they promise us ovi store map sometime in Feb/March of this year?? I can go on and on and please don't even try and taint me as a troll. If Nokia keeps up this you die hard N900 will be right at my corner. I am just waiting for GOOD Android phone that i like. I see my N900 sleeping next to the Sony X1 Xperia before they year is over or maybe next.

PS: Nokia do something alright....

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Awwww, you poor thing. Does baby want Nokia to hold his hand like Mr Jobs does ... Well, his grip is more around your neck, but still ...

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Actually... yes it will.

And you people might have misunderstood... I think he meant "rant" and not "runt". Misspells happen around these parts on an epic level.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

N900 is the best, f*** the rest :)

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I have a n900 and my son has a nexus I'm happy he's happy we have differing wants from a phone but he is now on his third replacement and it still wont accept sms

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I don't believe you. You may installed it with much help from some people here but you never ported it :p

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I love the N900 but this hits home for me, too. I had to dig out my G1 the other day to look something up and I was sad to realize how much I missed my apps that I used every day. Then when I went to the market and downloaded the Kindle app, I was even sadder.

I know there isn't a perfect phone out there but if I had an emulator (not dual boot) where I could run Android apps, 99% of my irritation with the N900 would go away. I would pay for an Android emulator. Like I would pay for a decent RSS feed reader with feed adding search functionality. And ports of Coloroid and Zen Garden. And some of the flying apps that have shown up in the market since I got my Nokia.

And that's the problem, I think developers assume that Linux users won't pay for apps and that's not true. Maybe on the desktop it might be - and honestly on my home server machine I've never needed to - but mobiles are different.

I'm not a software developer or I would take a stab at porting some apps. I know back in my Motorola A780 days there would be bounties posted for desired apps. Is there something similar for N900? Developers should get some rewards from their efforts or they'll eventually stop or move on to the next platform.

I'm turned off by Google and Apple's big brother behavior so that's not the solution. But it's all about the apps, especially when you sink hundreds of unsubsidized dollars into a phone - you want equal functionality and it's not unreasonable to want it. I just don't know how to help make it happen.

Terry

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

these are obviously made up stories.

Wouldn't bet on it tbh, I can totally relate to his sentiments

For anyone interested I will be selling my UK N900 on ebay (v prob on sunday) with BIN circa £220, bought in December on Vodafone, have made under *FIVE* phone calls on it - with prob about 20 hours total usage. (have bills to prove it - my 3gs is my *heavily* used main phone), still paying £35 pm for sim, will prob use it in my 6300. My phone is boxed as new, earpiece unused with all spare "covers", cleaning cloth unused, in orig box, totally unmarked phone, with protective plastic cover etc. I owned *all* the nokia communicator series, and loads of nokias before those, but the n900 is my last nokia....ever.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

grammAr? :P

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Hello this is my post to the forums so I would be grateful to not be shot down but let us see.
I ordered my N900 after bad experiences with Nokia N95 and N97 and switching to HTC. On ordering I then picked up that Maemo was being replaced by Meego so I called the Nokia N900 support team. At first I was told Meego would be installed on the N900 but when I said 'are you sure' the adviser then sought further advice and said it would not be as the N900 chip set did not support.
I am now wondering if I should return my N900 or would I be cutting off my nose to spite my face. Essentially I am tired and fed up with Nokia and if my HTC was not Windows then it would I suspect be game over. On the plus side the N900 seems to be in a different league to the N967 and N95. And I love Maemo - mind you I have only ever experienced Windows mobile and the Nokia N95/N9. The experience software wise across these phones is nicely illustrated by the fact that on none of them did the alarm function work properly. The N97 was the best with calendar entries causing the alarm to go off every night at 1200 for each entry.
In short I am in two minds - love the Maemo thing and really happy with Linux but Nokia really seem not too care and seem to be moving on again and are they going to leave this mobile high and dry as I feel they have done with the others? These mobiles are not £40 but £400.
At the moment I want to stay Maemo and N900 but am I just going to hurt myself again? Build quality on this phone does not look up to HTC model I have - sorry going off topic but in bit of quandary here and definitely do not feel positive about Nokia.
Paul

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

This is the story I want to hear. What's wrong with the EVO?

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

After owning several HTC phones I can say that the build quality of the N900 is fine. It's not stainless steel or anything but the keyboard slide is solid and it's a classic kind of design. (Some HTC phones have hideous buttons/weird layouts.) It's a little wide for me, I have small hands even for a woman - most guys don't even notice.

Everyone seems to be mad at Nokia for abandoning the N900 but have you ever tried to get support for older versions of Windows Mobile? Or a Palm phone? As long as the hardware is under warranty and you like Linux, you might as well give it a try if you can afford it.

Most of the issues now seem to be software and software is fixable. Eventually.

Terry

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Oh - I forgot to comment here. The alarms seem fine to me as far as going off on time but you might need to find better ringtones - the speakers don't seem very loud when deep asleep.

I do like the N79's alarm - it keeps saying "Good Morning" as it increases in volume. I should see if I can make the N900 do that...

Terry

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Well, for starters, it's bigger than the HD2 was (only 2mm though), but that was like walking round with half a sheet of shuttering ply all day long. I used a HD2 for a day and was glad to get rid of it.

Good job it wasn't too windy, too.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Funniest thing I've read all day. :D Goes right up there with "Can your Apple phone run Mac OSX?" *chuckles* (Of course, I'm referring to the N900 running Mac OSX.)

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Sure, 'cuz that's what Google Docs is for. Displaying the contents of office documents.

Does it work in Desktop mode on the Android phones? You know, where you can actually create new documents?

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

One step at a time bud.

However, I do have to ask... I don't have my loaner handy, but with all/most of the Google sites now redirecting to mobile sites instead of the full-blown sites - and without changing the browser agent string - can the N900 use Google Docs?

Innocent question that I don't know the answer to... thanks in advance.