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n0ak 2010-07-06 13:23

You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
So the problem is !!! :eek:
I just got my n900 and im very excited :D The part what makes me sad is that I Can't get the red pill for my nokia n900
The version i got on my n900 is: 10.2010.19-1
I added matrix in web adress bar, after that i touched blury place up to the cataloge name and nothing at all happened, better to say happened just like i pushed back button.Is there any solution u can give me?
I will be greatly appreciated if any of you can tell me how to turn my n900 on red pill!!!Thanks! :cool:

schettj 2010-07-06 13:32

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode

If you could read, you would be able to read the first line in RED that says:
Quote:

Red Pill functionality has been removed from Maemo5 51-1 forwards. So last firmware that has red pill -functionality is Maemo5 2009.44-1
There is no Red Pill.

xomm 2010-07-06 13:48

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
I would just like to add, if you're thinking about downgrading, the update that removed Red Pill was PR1.1 (2.2009.51-1).

That same update also updated the phone modem, and people who attempted to revert to PR1.0.1 (1.2009.44-1) or PR1.0 (1.2009.42-11) found that the N900 would no longer recognize any SIM cards.

The easiest way to use "red pill functions" is via the terminal with the appropriate commands.

n0ak 2010-07-06 13:55

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
And how im gona get games and apps on my n900 ! ?
when I install most of the .deb files they can't be installed ,because of some missing devices !! I haven't done anything to my n900 !! Its brand new !! And I wan't to get same apps and games like all of u guys !
But i can't maybe u can tell me step by step what should I do to get games and apps. on my n900 using PC!! I don't have Internet on my n900 at the moment ! :(
Sorry for bad English ! :(
Thanks Guys ! :)

n0ak 2010-07-06 14:02

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xomm (Post 742479)
I would just like to add, if you're thinking about downgrading, the update that removed Red Pill was PR1.1 (2.2009.51-1).

That same update also updated the phone modem, and people who attempted to revert to PR1.0.1 (1.2009.44-1) or PR1.0 (1.2009.42-11) found that the N900 would no longer recognize any SIM cards.

The easiest way to use "red pill functions" is via the terminal with the appropriate commands.

Do u know the commands for "terminal" to get red pill !!! Please :)
thank u :)

Bratag 2010-07-06 14:11

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Why dont you just use the app manager and enable the dev repositories etc (Not that I recommend that, since your skill level seems less than technical). Once enabled you should be able to install all games etc and have them pull required libs for you automatically. There should be very little need to install anything from a deb, but if there is you should use command line.

James_Littler 2010-07-06 14:13

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n0ak (Post 742489)
And how im gona get games and apps on my n900 ! ?
when I install most of the .deb files they can't be installed ,because of some missing devices !! I haven't done anything to my n900 !! Its brand new !! And I wan't to get same apps and games like all of u guys !
But i can't maybe u can tell me step by step what should I do to get games and apps. on my n900 using PC!! I don't have Internet on my n900 at the moment ! :(
Sorry for bad English ! :(
Thanks Guys ! :)

Ovi store online, and the app repositories available through 'Application Manager' on the phone itself.

Either way you will need internet on the N900 via wifi or 3g/gsm.

xomm 2010-07-06 14:29

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n0ak (Post 742489)
And how im gona get games and apps on my n900 ! ?
when I install most of the .deb files they can't be installed ,because of some missing devices !! I haven't done anything to my n900 !! Its brand new !! And I wan't to get same apps and games like all of u guys !
But i can't maybe u can tell me step by step what should I do to get games and apps. on my n900 using PC!! I don't have Internet on my n900 at the moment ! :(
Sorry for bad English ! :(
Thanks Guys ! :)

Without internet, you'll have to manually download all the dependencies of the application (they should be on the package listing; be very careful of what you download there though, you could brick your device and need a reflash.)

There's nothing wrong with your N900, that's just how things work; you either need an internet connection, or have all dependencies satisfied beforehand.

skoteinos 2010-07-06 14:30

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
You can install most applications and games from the Application Manager (with no need for red pill or anything else).
The Application Manager finds available apps/games in Application catalogues (also called sources or repositories). It is preconfigured with the official nokia catalogues but most interesting things are in the catalogues named "Extras", "Extras-testing" and "Extras-devel". Search the forums on how to enable these (if they are not already enabled on your phone). Be careful though, apps from extras-devel are not well tested and may damage your phone.

For some apps, or for some advanced commands, you may need to become "root", a special user with unlimited access. You do this by first installing (through the Application Manager) the app named "rootsh" (this should be done once). Then in the Xterminal app, every time you need it, you type first "sudo gainroot". Be careful, I suggest you read up a bit on the linux shell first. If you are root, a downloaded .deb file can be installed with "dpkg -i app.deb" (app.deb is the name of the file you downloaded).

It's all written in the forums, so if you need something more, try a search.

[Sorry, just saw the bit about not having Internet on the N900...]

n0ak 2010-07-07 12:03

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skoteinos (Post 742552)
You can install most applications and games from the Application Manager (with no need for red pill or anything else).
The Application Manager finds available apps/games in Application catalogues (also called sources or repositories). It is preconfigured with the official nokia catalogues but most interesting things are in the catalogues named "Extras", "Extras-testing" and "Extras-devel". Search the forums on how to enable these (if they are not already enabled on your phone). Be careful though, apps from extras-devel are not well tested and may damage your phone.

For some apps, or for some advanced commands, you may need to become "root", a special user with unlimited access. You do this by first installing (through the Application Manager) the app named "rootsh" (this should be done once). Then in the Xterminal app, every time you need it, you type first "sudo gainroot". Be careful, I suggest you read up a bit on the linux shell first. If you are root, a downloaded .deb file can be installed with "dpkg -i app.deb" (app.deb is the name of the file you downloaded).

It's all written in the forums, so if you need something more, try a search.

[Sorry, just saw the bit about not having Internet on the N900...]

so if im not havin g an internet I can't install the .deb files !!! I have just installed programmes through File Manager where I have to accept!! But most of the programmes I can't install I have Rootsh!!! I tried to install MyPaint !!! but when I type in Xterminal sudo gainroot and then i type in e.g dpkg -i whateveritscalled I can't it says No such file or Directory !!! wt* ??? :O
Help me guys !!!

I did all these steps !!

Let’s start by downloading the files (I will assume that you’ve downloaded it like me in a folder called Downloads inside Documents)

mypaint_0.7.1-2maemo4_armel.deb

mypaint-data_0.7.1-2maemo4_all.deb

Then you need root access (I used gainroot as usual) and the Extra-Devel repository, then do the following:

Open a X Terminal and type

sudo gainroot

apt-get install libblas3gf liblapack3gf pymaemo-optify python-numpy

(it’s here that it gets messy)

cd /usr/lib/

ln -s libblas.so.3gf libblas.so

ln -s liblapack.so.3gf.0 liblapack.so


and when i do this step :
apt-get install libblas3gf liblapack3gf pymaemo-optify python-numpy!! it says done for all the other files but not for libblas3gf - file not found!!
help me please !!!

wheelybird 2010-07-07 12:32

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Just a question - why did you buy a N900 if you don't have internet connectivity? It's an internet tablet.
How did you download the .debs you want to install? If you can download debs, surely you've got an internet.

Installing .debs and their dependencies manually is an intricate process, whether on the N900 or any other debian-based PC.

Anyway, if you're manually modifying files in /lib or /usr/lib etc., please run ldconfig afterwards. You can find missing dependencies using the ldd command (if that's installed on the n900 - I've not checked).
For example, ldd /usr/bin/gamebinary

But really - you will make your life a whole lot easier if you get your N900 on the internet. Even if you use 3G, a lot of the apps aren't very big, so shouldn't hurt your monthly download quota that much.

n0ak 2010-07-07 14:24

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelybird (Post 743640)
Just a question - why did you buy a N900 if you don't have internet connectivity? It's an internet tablet.
How did you download the .debs you want to install? If you can download debs, surely you've got an internet.

Installing .debs and their dependencies manually is an intricate process, whether on the N900 or any other debian-based PC.

Anyway, if you're manually modifying files in /lib or /usr/lib etc., please run ldconfig afterwards. You can find missing dependencies using the ldd command (if that's installed on the n900 - I've not checked).
For example, ldd /usr/bin/gamebinary

But really - you will make your life a whole lot easier if you get your N900 on the internet. Even if you use 3G, a lot of the apps aren't very big, so shouldn't hurt your monthly download quota that much.

I have Internet on my PC !! but not on my n900 If i want to go online with n900 i need to find Wi-fi !!! Connection ! but I don't like to look for wi-fi connections !! I download all my .deb files on this website http://repository.maemo.org/ But problem is I can't Install most of my files ,, I do all the right steps but when I open xterminal file can't be found or im Missing some other directorys !! something like that !!!

jacktanner 2010-07-07 14:35

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Methinks this n0ak is a troll.

n0ak, if you're not a troll, then you're likely to get better help if you:

a) read this: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
b) pick any one app that you're trying to install, and give the actual commands you're using and the actual error messages that you're getting (and show that you are unable to resolve them even after google search)
c) stop it with the silly exclamation points already

crsnwby 2010-07-07 17:24

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
A. Take it back and get a refund as you dont know how to use it and if you dont have internet on it then its useless.

B. Get internet on it or use WiFi and use app manager like everyone else.

ossipena 2010-07-07 17:33

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n0ak (Post 743617)
so if im not havin g an internet I can't install the .deb files !!! I have just installed programmes through File Manager where I have to accept!! But most of the programmes I can't install I have Rootsh!!! I tried to install MyPaint !!! but when I type in Xterminal sudo gainroot and then i type in e.g dpkg -i whateveritscalled I can't it says No such file or Directory !!! wt* ??? :O
Help me guys !!!

I did all these steps !!

Let’s start by downloading the files (I will assume that you’ve downloaded it like me in a folder called Downloads inside Documents)

mypaint_0.7.1-2maemo4_armel.deb

mypaint-data_0.7.1-2maemo4_all.deb

Then you need root access (I used gainroot as usual) and the Extra-Devel repository, then do the following:

Open a X Terminal and type

sudo gainroot

apt-get install libblas3gf liblapack3gf pymaemo-optify python-numpy

(it’s here that it gets messy)

cd /usr/lib/

ln -s libblas.so.3gf libblas.so

ln -s liblapack.so.3gf.0 liblapack.so


and when i do this step :
apt-get install libblas3gf liblapack3gf pymaemo-optify python-numpy!! it says done for all the other files but not for libblas3gf - file not found!!
help me please !!!

you did what?!?!?

SAABoy 2010-07-07 18:03

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
who would like to tell me what this red pill is about?

JohnLF 2010-07-07 18:06

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
See post #2

javispedro 2010-07-07 18:16

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
You really should get any Internet connection for your N900 or you're not going to enjoy it. Really.

n0ak 2010-07-08 19:19

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Its ok guys now I got wi-fi connection on my n900 !! thanks anyways ;)

quingu 2010-07-08 20:53

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jacktanner (Post 743765)
Methinks this n0ak is a troll.

I'm with jacktanner on this one...

danramos 2010-07-08 21:01

Re: You Must Help (ASAP) [[10Q]]
 
Take your phone to an Apple store. They have these people they call 'Geniuses' that help customers with any problem. (Ask them, they'll tell you that!) And they can show you right then and there how you can "have an Internet."

Please make sure you come back here and post a video of what they tell you so that we can know too.


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