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davemoir 2010-07-06 21:10

strange n900 behaviour
 
Hiya, have been messing about with themes and removed my menu app, now i have a really basic menu with no app manager.
I have an app manager shortcut on my desktop but that aint working either?!?!?
have tried "restore original settings" in settings but no joy. no backup icon either!"!!!!!!

Patroclo 2010-07-06 21:22

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Strange...very strange...
http://merovee.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/exorcist.jpg

davemoir 2010-07-07 07:02

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Nobody had this or got a solution??
Is it possible to do a hard reset or will i need to re-flash???

n900faniam 2010-07-07 07:05

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
try both, or try to restore to the theme you were originally using

davemoir 2010-07-07 07:11

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
How do you do a hard reset???

ossipena 2010-07-07 07:22

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
what apps have you installed?

davemoir 2010-07-07 07:41

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
i havent installed any from devel, have got a few on like.
it happened when i removed my menu, now i cant get into app manager to re-install

teh 2010-07-07 08:01

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
There is no "hard reset". You will need to reflash if you've broken something in x-terminal.

Aydan 2010-07-07 08:08

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
If you have root shell installed you can do
Code:

root
apt-get install mymenu

in the xterminal to reinstall mymenu which will hopefully give you access to the appmanager again.

davemoir 2010-07-07 08:33

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
No good, cant access xterminal either!!!!

ossipena 2010-07-07 09:03

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemoir (Post 743396)
i havent installed any from devel, have got a few on like.
it happened when i removed my menu, now i cant get into app manager to re-install

you should report this as a bug in my menu.

Joorin 2010-07-07 09:13

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemoir (Post 743457)
No good, cant access xterminal either!!!!

There's a key shortcut: Shift + Ctrl + x

davemoir 2010-07-07 09:47

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
that has brought up xterminal
tried entering commands as per earlier post no joy
how do i get to 'root' ?

ossipena 2010-07-07 10:28

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
[disclaimer] this might be fatal to your device!!![/disclaimer]

Code:

sudo gainroot

davemoir 2010-07-07 10:51

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
has anybody else tried that bit of code??
what does it do exactly??

RFS-81 2010-07-07 10:58

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access

ossipena 2010-07-07 10:59

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemoir (Post 743549)
has anybody else tried that bit of code??
what does it do exactly??

that is how you get root. the command does nothing dangerous but anything typed after that could do.

davemoir 2010-07-07 11:09

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
does nowt
asks about rd mode?!?!
might just have to re-flash tnite then!

ossipena 2010-07-07 11:17

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemoir (Post 743556)
does nowt
asks about rd mode?!?!
might just have to re-flash tnite then!

you haven't installed the rootsh package then.


so reflash is the only option now afaik

chemist 2010-07-07 11:38

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
You should be able to start the backup tool from xterminal
its called osso-backup
so type
Code:

osso-backup
and hit enter, the backup tool should now startup

I suggest just flash the root img (do not flash your eMMC! just the bare root image!) afterwards, the only things getting lost are installed programs as stuff like address-book and stuff are stored in the eMMC get not flashed (means you are more or less safe to flash without a backup).

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware

don.ebright 2010-07-07 11:47

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Even if you haven't installed rootsh, the gainroot command works if the N900 is running in R&D mode. The same flasher program that is used to reflash the firmware can also set this mode so you might want to try it before reflashing. I believe that this feature is only available in the Linux version of the flasher program, but you could run it from a Linux live CD if you don't have a Linux machine handy. The commands are:

Code:

sudo ./flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode -R
and
Code:

sudo ./flasher-3.5 --disable-rd-mode -R
Instructions for installing and using the flasher are here:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware

I don't recall where R&D mode is documented, but a search of the wiki and forum would find more information. I hope this helps you.

davemoir 2010-07-07 12:08

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
tried osso-backup
opens backup utility but when i select restore nothing happens??

davemoir 2010-07-07 13:08

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Sod it, will just re-flash tonight!!

Habmala 2010-07-07 13:20

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
I suppose it's a long shot, but if you by any chance happen to have ssh installed you could get root through that. Do "ssh root@your.ip.address" from a remot linux computer (there are ways to use ssh in windows as well, but I'm not familiar with them). It will prompt for the rootpassword, which was set during install. You could then try to install my menu as mentioned above.

davemoir 2010-07-07 13:32

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
dont have ssh mate.

Aydan 2010-07-07 17:40

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemoir (Post 743619)
tried osso-backup
opens backup utility but when i select restore nothing happens??

I think the idea was to create a backup, reflash the rootfs and then restore.

woody14619 2010-07-07 17:54

Re: strange n900 behaviour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 743561)
you haven't installed the rootsh package then.


so reflash is the only option now afaik

This is why I tell people step 1 for the N900 is to install ssh. It was the first package I installed, and absolute worst case I can always ssh into the device and manually change/tweak things.

So, reflash, then install ssh. :)


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