n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

i conversations are disappearing allot lately. sometimes i get a text then i go check it it says no conversations.

i still get alerts, my blue notification light flashes also.
i cant afford for this to be happening. i run a business and im missing money.

can anyone solve this or is having this same issue?
Also my call log is doing the same every now and then.
these issues have been happening for about a week now.
i have rebooted my phone over and over again

please help

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

I have the same problem. Actually happening as I type this message. It's annoying. I usually just reboot it or just let it chill out for a bit.

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Its not a bug, its a feature!

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i hope its not. lmao

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This should help you:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=715062&postcount=3


It's not going to return old messages though, you'll be back at zero, but at least they'll start being logged again.

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i have reflashed my phone and restored my backup. everything was working for a minute. the the next thing i know they disappeared again along with my call history.

i didnt have this problem when i had pr1.1. in fact i had no problems. you think in get get a replacement phone? i only had my phone for 4 months. or is this just a firmware issue?

anybody?

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

i have tried this suggestion and for me me it works for a while. my problem is reoccuring. my messages and call log come back when it wants to.

can i send my phone back to nokia?

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if you return conversations from backup, it brings the corrupt database(?!?) along. so don't return conversations from backup.

just remove
and see if problem disappears along with conversations.
(you might need to recreate the file, with command)
if you know how to handle sqlite, you could try fixing the database instead of removing it.

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thanks a million. i kinda figured that but here is the thing. i have about 4500 text message from my clients that i need to keep. is there a way i can manually export my messages out and convert them to excell?
im gonna try your third option to try and repair the database. thanks. hopes this works

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

If you transfer that file over to a computer you should be able to extract all data, or convert it to a excel file if you wish. Not sure if it's possible to open that database in Excel directly though.

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I'd copy the file to /home/user/MyDocs, plug n900 to pc, copy the file to your pc and see if you can open it with some application. db format is sqlite3. when you have the copy in mydocs, it can be pretty safely deleted from original location.

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Look man this phone isn't worth the headache, head to a blackberry or htc if you're not willing to shell out for the best phone available on the market (iphone). You'll make **** 100x easier on yourself.

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so what phone do you think is better than the nokia n900 as a whole?

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The real question is: what phone isn't?

N900 in practice is a souped up N95 with a touch screen and a half finished open source OS, but with far less applications

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Just a quick poll for any body that is currently suffering from this problem or that has suffered from this problem. Have you guys/ girls been able to install new applications or did you get an insufficient memory error? It is my theory that these two problems are directly related of which the root cause is a memory calculation error in the N900's firmware. Please, someone else test this if they are experiencing the problem to see if this holds true.

Thanks,
Kham

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

Turning the phone off and on fixes the thing for me - all messages are again visible.

BTW, part of the widgets vanishes again and again from the desktop.
No one will be bored with N900... :-/

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You might run out of rootfs space. Look up the wiki for rootfs, there you might find an article for opening up some space.

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Yes I'm having the same problem. My conversations are sporadic. For example, I get 6 msgs at once, and can only view 1 of them. All my conversation history has disappeared, and all my call logs have disappeared. This started happening about a week ago. Have done nothing to my phone of note.

Only app I installed was the level pack 2 expansion for angry birds. If I turn the phone off and on, it seems to try and download every conversation (ie. txt msg) from the last week, but then, nothing in conversations.

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

gsever, I agree that Root space must be the issue. However, I don't believe that it is actual root space, but possibly perceived root space by the Maemo firmware. If someone could please try and install an app when they are actually having this problem, then we can get a better idea of whether it is a root issue or not.

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

the real question is what the criteria are.

just keep in mind that if this would have happened with apple (friend just got all his data wiped out when iTunes froze completely) there is nothing to do.

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Hi, I'm having the same problem, did you manage to get it fixed & how? Thank u!

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hi, no I haven't..... still trawling through "no conversation history n900" as a google search to try and find an answer.

If anyone can help - when I select Conversations, it says no conversation history. If someone SMS's me, I can see the entire history of conversations with that person, but they have to SMS me.

The only other issue that showed up about the time of this issue, is that I have no call history.

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Found this command when googling "nokia n900 conversations reset":

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-1079690.html

the command:

rm -rf .rtcom-eventlogger

worked for me! It also kept my previous conversation history, which is always good.. and it also started keeping call history again as well.

Cheers,

Alex

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And me too, but only for one contact.
It's not free space issue. I have 12Mb/800Mb/>1Gb on root/home/MyDocs and can install new apps without any problems.
I can assume that this can be caused by some smileys which are similar to sql syntax or by renaming the contact. Or by extending it's data with some non-typical information. Or by some conversations addons: I have Skype, GoogleTalk, ICQ, Ovi and Vkontakte (russian [anti]social network, clone of facebook that enabled jabber for all users) accounts activated at least once.

Another symptom is that for this contact statuses of new messages cannot be updated: I can see notification that sms was delivered, but in conversation window it's still can be seen as awaiting to be sent.

Will try to see .db

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Was bugreport ever created about this?

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I just deleted db and will try to analyze them if the problem repeats, but for someone who wants to investigate the situation the commands are:

How to make backups of conversations
 

I have a slightly different question: how do I make backups of the conversation? I guess it's in a text file; I'll eventually figure out how to read the format if it's not in the standard format, but I need to know in what file/directory the conversations are stored.

Re: How to make backups of conversations
 

It's in an sqlite database at ~/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db

Use sqlite3 to manipulate the database.

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

It is now bug 11464! Go vote for it.

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Thanks, but after flashing PR1.3 bug didn't repeat, so I'll wait.

Who added "troll" tag to thread? Why? It's real problem. (Or at least was.)

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

Same here with my wife's N900. It's only happening with one of her contacts and always the same contact when the problem arises. Some of the messages disappear or it shows her messages a day or few days old. Plus it shows the actual phone number rather than the contacts name that my wife has her saved under.

She did a battery pull and restart and only temporarily fixes the problem. I hope she doesn't have to do a flash or anything serious just because of one contact.

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just recently experience this problem, only one contact conversation is missing & not updated everytime i send/receive messages. it started to happen when i was deleting several messages, a new message comes and i begun experiencing that missing conversation

btw i'm PR 1.3 and power kernel v46

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Having the same problem. Very frustrating.

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The following thread could help you.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59240&page=2

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was that ever fixed? my conversations and phone call history are dissapearing every once in a while, then, after reboot, they would come back...

please help

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I am having the same issue, and it seems to happen more and more and they cone back after reboot but it is driving me nuts.

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Have you been installing lot's of webos games?

or

Have you filled up your opt memory with other programs?

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So if I'm going a little off topic here guys but it's only because I can't seem to find the answer anywhere and no one will respond to my question in another thread.

I have fMMS with a bunch of picture messages, maybe over 60-70 of them still on my N900. Only way I'm seeing to delete them is literally one by one.

Is there a way to select all or more than one and delete? That would be helpful since if I have to do each one seperate, it would take very long and be super annoying.

Any help would be appreciated!

Re: n900 conversations disappearing!!!
 

Found a workaround for this today - the problem occurs because the Headers table in the /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db becomes corrupt. Happily this is repairable, on the device:

First gain root access:
..then switch to the target directory:
Now dump the contents of the existing database to a raw SQL file:
Restore the SQL to a new database:
You may ignore SQL errors at this stage; they occur due to corruption in the source.

Now overwrite the broken DB (you may wish to back up the original file):
Finally, ensure that the file is owned by 'user' and is in the 'users' group so it may be read by Conversations
Now close and re-open your Conversations app - the changes should be immediate!

Hope this helps,

Alex