Nokia U
 

Hi,

Nokia has released 3 different designs for the Nokia U, and there is a poll to choose what is your favorite :
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...sketches-poll/

http://188.65.36.70/wp-content/uploa...ketch1_dbc.jpg

http://188.65.36.70/wp-content/uploa...etch_2_dbc.jpg

http://188.65.36.70/wp-content/uploa...etch3_dbc1.jpg

It's too bad that there is no hardware keyboard...
And it's too bad that it seems that the nokia U will never exist, and is just a test to see what the customers like...

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Nice. Voted for #1, but where is the keyboard ;)

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I don't think I much like any of those designs. They all look terribly unoriginal and uninteresting.

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I think Nokia actually KNOWS what customers like and NEED.
But they are only interested in our desires when they want to sell another phone.
I suppose it's their point of view about a "participative community", fix our software, fix our guides (lol), chose our designs... and we take your money.
Sorry, but too bad Nokia.

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There is clearly a lack of innovation in these 3 designs.
..
In the third one they made the mistake they already made in the N900 : a protection for the lens that is not integrated in the casing... so when you put the phone on a table and type on it, it's not stable.
Genius are working for Nokia :)

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don't blame Nokia for the designs the voters came up with it all

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At first voters hadn't the choice of all the options
It was impossible to vote for a device with a big screen, great camera, thin and with a hardware keyboard, some stupid limitations where put by nokia, and they changed it later, but too late;
So ok the specs have been voted by the community, but with a very limited choice...

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This is coming out on WM7, the Dell Lightning:

http://img.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/dell...ightning-1.jpg

4.1inch
121.6 x 64.4 x 14.9 mm

Not wow but its something I would consider

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So 8mm body with 4x optical zoom? Must be nokia's response to the HTC Magic.

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A little bit off-topic (after watching W7 pics) but:
Except Nokia Geeks (thanxs danramos, very good definition) a bunch of we want a phone based on Android, rooted and with keyboard (perhaps resistive or high-def capacitative screen), I'm right or wrong?
ALL the N900 wonders are not based on maemo itself, are based on a rooted phone with Linux kernel. But Maemo, really? Yeah... it comes with Xterm... nice.

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Why no kickstand?

And this megapixel fetish on the camera -- 12MP on a camera phone -- is just counterproductive.

Especially if it's going to be a phone, it would be preferable to have more hardware buttons, even if that's not the trend.

They "look nice," but I'm a function-over-form guy (if you gotta have a trade-off); and more hardware buttons and A KICKSTAND would be functional.

I like the screen-size/form-factor combination.

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Yeah, IMO 12MP on a mobile phone with all its limitations is absurd.

Slower to save, slower to process, slower to share, takes more space, and not even with necessarily better image quality.

Here's hoping to more hardware keyboards...

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Ok looks like most of you decided to criticize Nokia for the lack of originality when it comes to design, but let's face it: when you design a touch phone there's not much room for creativity. I mean look at the phones that are already on the market, aren't they all pretty much the same?? HTC, iPhone, Samsung, SE - all monoblock handsets with a slim waist, a big screen covering most of the front side and one or more hardware keys on the bottom. The tendency is to create a touch screen as big as possible (because bigger is better) while making the body as thin as possible. Now how can you follow that recipe and still come up with a radically different design?
Now I'm not defending Nokia, but that's how things are right now.

I have to agree with the guy who complained about the limited choices when we were asked to vote. I'm now baffled to see a concept that envisions a ridiculously powerful handset with a width of only 8mm. Even today, there's no way you can cram all that in such a small space!

Now let me just say this... the BEST phone would simply be our beloved N900 with a nice slim waist and upgraded hardware - am I right? :D

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Unoriginal designs very evolutionary

1- N8 evolution
2- X6 evolution
3- iphone at the front with a lens slide E71 as the back

Then again, the actual phone shape design really doesnt matter that much to most people. Look at the iphone - thats not exactly original. Samsung Galaxy S etc.. Theres only a limited things you can do for a non keyboard candy bar format I guess..

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12 megapixel? 5 megapixels are more than enough. they propably should think about making the sensors better?!

anyway: no hardware-keyboard? good i guess, a reason not to buy any of these devices. i plan on keeping my n900 as long as possible.

/edit: btw, what does "auto-on lens cover" mean? are they opening and closing automatically? its obvious for the first device (the n8-looking one), but what about the others?

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Right! and a better kickstand :D

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Nokia at least is still building all metallic (aluminium) phones while Samsung flagship that costed me 630 euros is as plastic as you can get and iphones whole back is plastic aswell.

As far as i'm concerned i want N9 to be copy E7/N8-01 design and just put more powerful processor, higher reso screen and Meego inside and i'm done.

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can't please eveyone .

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Just don't touch the aluminum around the case! ;)

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wow, I would buy it the day i saw it at the store i saw it(after a quick review read online lol).

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I would give WM7 some time to prove itself though. The development of the WM 6 OS was painfully slow all the time I was with it. And I refuse to go back given Moorestown is so close now.

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Quick review of Nokia U specifications (overall, pleasantly looking).
> Display: 4-inch capacitive 16:9
Resistive! I would like to use stylus, and capacitive has lower accuracy (source: Wikipedia).
> Power button, camera, zoom and volume button controls
Zoom and volume button controls - separate from each other, please.
And don't forget the lock slider.

> Shape: Monoblock
With QWERTY keyboard, like N900! Let it have four or five rows of buttons, and let buttons be smaller and better suited to typing by the stylus (seriously; when you use keyboard and touchscreen at the same time, it would be comfortable to press keyboard buttons by the stylus).
> Dimensions: 60 x 110 x 6-10mm
It can be two or three or four times thicker. I wouldn't balk at it.
> Extras: Auto lens cover
Not Auto. Manual, please. I don't want malicious software to take photographs anytime it wants to. And I don't want the electromotors of auto lens cover break and leave me without a camera because I cannot open the shutter.

> Material: Aluminium
> Finish: Soft touch
Any material you want.
> Colour: Single colour
Black.
> Durability: Super strength
Yes, and make the screen unbreakable and unscratchable, too.

> Open source operating system with unlimited multitasking.
Yes.
> The DbC OS 1 sports temperature and location sensors so your device constantly monitors your whereabouts and the local conditions.
Location sensor - GPS - we already have in N900 (and in most other devices). Temperature sensor... It wouldn't give correct reading when it is in your pocket, would it?
Let it be. Just allow me to turn sensors off completely if I want to.
> Device-based storage is supported.
Of course, yes, and no cloud.
> The majority of OS functionality responds to touch control.
Yes.

> Support for 802.11 n/b/g wireless standards.
> USB 3 connectivity.
> HDMI connectivity.
Yes, whatever it is.
> Cable charger.
Yes, definitely.
> Dolby Surround Sound.
Let it be. But it would be more important for me to have the whole range of frequencies which can be heard by dogs, cats, dolphins and humans.

> 8-megapixel
12-megapixel, please. You already have cameraphones with such sensors on the market.
Also, it's said that in N900 the lens is considerably smaller than the minimum physical requirement for a true 5MP camera.
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_camera_sensor
Let not repeat the same mistake again. Use larger lens for higher resolution sensor.
> 4X optical zoom
I wouldn't mind 10X optical zoom. I want to use it as field glass.
For a good optical zoom, I would tolerate several centimeters long lens retractable lens assembly, like on digital cameras.
Whatever optical zoom is made, 4X or 10X, it shouldn't cause any distortion of the image.
> Dual LED and Xenon flash
Let it be. I can choose which of them I use - or use both.
> HD video capture
Correct. Good camera can record high-definition video.
> Instant image capture
"Instant" is subjective. What kind of requirement is it?

> Kinetic power booster
No. It's good for a wristwatch, but it cannot power such a dragon. Better use solar panel USB attachment: the device in the pocket/bag, the solar panel fixed outside on your pocket/bag. And use crank generator to recharge the device on the go.
> Multiple OS support
Yes, of course.
> Surround Sound Speakers
Not necessary... Let it be.
> Upgradable Flash memory
Yes. Though 32 GB seems like enough right now, hardware has the tendency to become better with time.
> Upgradable image sensor
Yes.

Excellent for the lemmings
 

No keyboard = not for geeks.
Otherwise a comfortable design.:cool:
wonder if someone could add, in accessories or aftermarket,
a paper-thin BT keyboard-slipcover for this though.

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When I read the thread title, I thought Nokia was opening up its own University....

I wonder what the courses would be....

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oh another "lets all blame nokia" thread.
http://www.drewflaherty.com/images/boring!!!.jpg

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My first reaction it was Nokia trying to be "modern" and trying to catch on to the "NO U" meme. The five year delay would've been about right for typical big corp slow movement.

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If you didn't realize yet, the Nokia U is the result of the "Design by community" polls. Nokia didn't choose the specs or the name, the readers of Nokia Conversations did it by voting. The sketches were obviously designed to fit in the overall design of N-, X- and C/Eseries respectively.