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CaSPeR1 2010-08-02 12:01

N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I am a proud owner of the N900 since it released. I really like the N900 and its OS and feaures/potential has made me stick to it since. The lack of support from Nokia has dented the potential somewhat. I dont know what the future holds for Nokia supported OS and I would really like to get back into the mass market of APPS.

I am now looking to upgrade, Im not sure if its too early for that (Does the N900 still have life in it?). I seriously think the Galaxy S has an edge over N900 and I would benefit from it.

Galaxy S -Main features.

Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches
Multi-touch input method
512 MB RAM, 2GB ROM
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP
Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
ARM Cortex A8 1GHz processor
Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh
And iof course the Android Apps

Is there any reason you believe that I should not upgrade from N900?

F2thaK 2010-08-02 12:03

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
if youre not happy with the N900 or the galaxy S has features you prefer, go for it !

mtjioe 2010-08-02 12:17

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I would go for the galaxy S Pro, it has 4G and a hardware keyboard.

CaSPeR1 2010-08-02 12:25

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 772972)
if youre not happy with the N900 or the galaxy S has features you prefer, go for it !

Im happy with my N900, I have had it for almost a year. I think its time for an upgrade.

I have not upgraded to any other phone so far because the N900 Tablet has the best/should I say most potential OS and specs at the time of its release. I believe other manufacturers have taken the lead and Galaxy S is a real contender.

cjp 2010-08-02 12:29

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I think that there's a bit of a apples vs oranges comparisant about to start here, as I feel that the Sam Galaxy S is a completely different kind of device than the N900. Well that mentioned "pro" version might be a bit more similar.

However, if you're happy with N900 but find yourself interested in the Galaxy S, then get the Galaxy S but maybe put the "either or" mentality aside. Find a way to use both devices. For me the N900 is more like a tool that's always handy to have around. But then on the other hand, going out with my friends I might prefer a more one-handed device.

roguespy0 2010-08-02 12:47

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I have the galaxy s and I really like it, I haven't really used my n900 since I got it.

AlMehdi 2010-08-02 13:09

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I would wait longer.. hardware wise it is not that big of a difference. Though you seam to be after some andoid apps. Try to think what apps you are missing, if android have them, switch... Otherwise wait until a better phone comes. Shouldn't be long.

Or install Nitdroid on the n900.

CaSPeR1 2010-08-02 13:55

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roguespy0 (Post 773014)
I have the galaxy s and I really like it, I haven't really used my n900 since I got it.

Can you give some feedback in comparison to the N900?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtjioe (Post 772988)
I would go for the galaxy S Pro, it has 4G and a hardware keyboard.

That would defo seal the deal. When is it released?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlMehdi (Post 773027)
I would wait longer.. hardware wise it is not that big of a difference. Though you seam to be after some andoid apps. Try to think what apps you are missing, if android have them, switch... Otherwise wait until a better phone comes. Shouldn't be long.

Or install Nitdroid on the n900.

Proper supported apps like games, maps etc. The N900 is good but like someone said its not supposed to be a phone so technically cannot compare to any other "phone". The problem with N900 is the user/community has to support which is great but limited in the long term.

Im still waiting for Flash 10.1, dont even know if ts been released or gonna be released for the N900.

N900 was basically a test product for Nokia. I have enjoyed my time with it, I think its time to move on to a proper product.

msa 2010-08-02 15:49

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
well, you'll definitely love that super amoled screen! i have a jet before my n900, and the screen was fantastic, and that wasnt even super amoled, only "normal" amoled.

but i would wait for the galaxy s pro, because it features a hardware keyboard! not sure if it has a release-date yet, though...

s33 2010-08-02 19:28

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaSPeR1 (Post 772968)
I am a proud owner of the N900 since it released. I really like the N900 and its OS and feaures/potential has made me stick to it since. The lack of support from Nokia has dented the potential somewhat. I dont know what the future holds for Nokia supported OS and I would really like to get back into the mass market of APPS.

I am now looking to upgrade, Im not sure if its too early for that (Does the N900 still have life in it?). I seriously think the Galaxy S has an edge over N900 and I would benefit from it.

Galaxy S -Main features.

Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches
Multi-touch input method
512 MB RAM, 2GB ROM
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP
Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
ARM Cortex A8 1GHz processor
Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh
And iof course the Android Apps

Is there any reason you believe that I should not upgrade from N900?

hmm...i think the processor of galaxy S is hummingbird:D

Laughing Man 2010-08-02 20:08

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I would wait a few more months since Gingerbread (Android OS 3.0J will be coming then. Might as well wait the few months and then get the newest hardware and operating system rather than wait and see if Samsung will upgrade you to it or not. Of course the Galaxy S has a growing group of hackers so there's always unofficial.

msa 2010-08-02 23:36

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 773455)
I would wait a few more months since Gingerbread (Android OS 3.0J will be coming then. Might as well wait the few months and then get the newest hardware and operating system rather than wait and see if Samsung will upgrade you to it or not. Of course the Galaxy S has a growing group of hackers so there's always unofficial.

and in a few month, you will again say "wait a few month", right? :D

gabby131 2010-08-02 23:39

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
i cant compare the n900 from other devices. having the n900 is such a different experience :)

imperiallight 2010-08-02 23:43

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

That would defo seal the deal. When is it released?
Samsung galaxy pro s is coming out as Samsung Epic 4G on August 20th. But I don't trust release dates generally...

gerbick 2010-08-02 23:50

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s33 (Post 773410)
hmm...i think the processor of galaxy S is hummingbird:D

The Samsung Hummingbird processor is an ARM Cortex-A8 core paired with a PowerVR SGX540 GPU.

gabby131 2010-08-03 00:28

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
when is the n910 coming? :D

gerbick 2010-08-03 00:38

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gabby131 (Post 773736)
when is the n910 coming? :D

february 34th.

Laughing Man 2010-08-03 00:49

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msa (Post 773709)
and in a few month, you will again say "wait a few month", right? :D

Nah, I think Google has plans to address the fragmentation that is beginning to happen.

maluka 2010-08-03 00:54

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I would wait a few more months for the MeeGo phone/s to come out. At the least, it could only be better than the N900 with better hardware than anything that's being sold currently.

Laughing Man 2010-08-03 01:09

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
If it's coming from Nokia I wouldn't bother. They're like Samsung (although rumor is Samsung might be changing their behavior) when it comes to support of their hardware.

gerbick 2010-08-03 01:25

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 773763)
If it's coming from Nokia I wouldn't bother. They're like Samsung (although rumor is Samsung might be changing their behavior) when it comes to support of their hardware.

They really screwed over customers on the Samsung Behold. I think it finally got updated to 1.6, and there's an unofficial ROM for 2.0 (I've seen mention of it, but never actually seen it).

nitro99 2010-08-03 06:44

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I was faced with the exact same dilemma.....

Couldnt decide so now I have both.

After using both I reliased that each has its own plus and minus.

Nothing beats the N900 on net speed whether its Wifi or 3G.
And the power of having a linux box in your pocket is really something else.

Whereas on the Galaxy the screen is a dreamer...scratch proof - I must add...My N900 already has scratches :(

And the App market even though not as technical as the N900 is still very exhaustive, I was able to find almost all N900 apps which I use (equivalent features / not same) on the Android Market.

CaSPeR1 2010-08-03 11:47

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nitro99 (Post 773930)
I was faced with the exact same dilemma.....

Couldnt decide so now I have both.

After using both I reliased that each has its own plus and minus.

Nothing beats the N900 on net speed whether its Wifi or 3G.
And the power of having a linux box in your pocket is really something else.

Whereas on the Galaxy the screen is a dreamer...scratch proof - I must add...My N900 already has scratches :(

And the App market even though not as technical as the N900 is still very exhaustive, I was able to find almost all N900 apps which I use (equivalent features / not same) on the Android Market.


In that case Id wait for the Galaxy S Pro.

cjp 2010-08-03 12:07

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Now even I'm intrigued by this Galaxy S Pro ... O.o Must check it out when it arrives.

However, I think Nokia has a better trackrecord in supporting their devices than Samsung. Maemo and Nokia N900 shouldn't be taken into account so much, because up until now (or the next tablet) it's really been a side project.

SavageD 2010-08-03 19:44

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nitro99 (Post 773930)
I was faced with the exact same dilemma.....

Couldnt decide so now I have both.

After using both I reliased that each has its own plus and minus.

Nothing beats the N900 on net speed whether its Wifi or 3G.
And the power of having a linux box in your pocket is really something else.

Whereas on the Galaxy the screen is a dreamer...scratch proof - I must add...My N900 already has scratches :(

And the App market even though not as technical as the N900 is still very exhaustive, I was able to find almost all N900 apps which I use (equivalent features / not same) on the Android Market.

Scratch proof :confused:...as far as I know nothings scratch proof....

imperiallight 2010-08-03 19:48

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Scratch proof ...as far as I know nothings scratch proof....
If a surface or substance is sharper than something else it will scratch it. When they try to scratch these screens with keys say and moderate pressure it tends to remain unscratched which is pretty impressive. Of course it can be scratched.

n900 has an awful scratch resistance.

RogerTHAcctant 2010-08-03 19:55

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
From all the phones to choose from, if i had to pick another phone the samsung galaxy s seems to be a really great alternative. humming bird processor yumm

I'm still going to hold out another year to buy a phone though, n900's still great + I'm not rich enough to throw 500 each year. But thats cool, 1 year will be perfect time to look out for dual core mobile processors, see how nokia handles meego development, etc

n900nate 2010-08-03 20:00

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlMehdi (Post 773027)

Or install Nitdroid on the n900.

:)

Thaat's what I'm thinking of doing once someone gets the phone working :)

Nate.

Laughing Man 2010-08-03 20:17

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 774658)
If a surface or substance is sharper than something else it will scratch it. When they try to scratch these screens with keys say and moderate pressure it tends to remain unscratched which is pretty impressive. Of course it can be scratched.

n900 has an awful scratch resistance.

I think a resisitive touchscreen needs to be sensitive to pressure thus it can't be to scratch resistent.

Ayle 2010-08-03 20:55

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
I'm the owner of both a captivate and n900 and I can say that having both is definitely doable. I basically use the n900 as a dedicated internet tablet, with ssh and vlc to my media center, mypaint, flash websites and the random video file that refuse to play on the galaxy. Fcamera is also a pretty darn nice tool to have. My main problem with the galaxy is that thanks to the carrier branding the phone just gets ridiculously laggy and unresponsive despite the 600 mhz advantage....

Taleydra 2010-08-03 21:22

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaSPeR1 (Post 773069)
Proper supported apps like games, maps etc. The N900 is good but like someone said its not supposed to be a phone so technically cannot compare to any other "phone". The problem with N900 is the user/community has to support which is great but limited in the long term.

The n900 is a great phone. It has top notch reception, and good sound quality. The only phone related features it is missing are fluff features like distinctive ring.

The user community is actually a reason why it will be around MUCH longer than manufacturer supported phones that are updated every few months. The user base has made the n900 better than it was six months ago, and it seems to only be getting better.

amoult 2010-08-11 08:59

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
So.. sold my N900 and got Galaxy S (European version) and after a few days I have a bit mixed feelings about the phone.

I was pretty satisfied with my N900 except for a few nags, batterly life and how sometimes Phone application UI would lag so much I could not receive the call. Also was not great fan of that 'landscape mode only' thing going on.

+Screen on galaxy S is absolutely great.
+Browser is great. It's fast and I espcially like properly working text re-flowing i.e. when reading forums I zoom to a level where text is comfortable to read and douple tap on the text and it-reflows the text, no more panning left to right. change phone orientaion and it reflows the text to fit the screen again. Perceft!
+Image quality of the camera is OK
+Video recorder is much better.
+Nice form factor, I can hardy even notice it in my pocket
+ Setup is super easy if you use google contacs and calendar.
+ Finally I can have Spotify with offilne playlist

-Reception is poorer than in N900. It jumps between edge and 3g networks when I move around my house. N900 was always in 3g network (in same location and with the same operator).

- This phone suck power like a mother****er! Even with 1500 mAh battery I can barely do 24 hours. This might have something to do with poor reception as looks like biggest thingsucking the juice besides the display is cell standby.. Or android power management is just poor.

- No notification light unlike most Andoid devices.. yeah keep it simple Samsung, next time maybe remove buttons altogether? It would be really nice to know your phone is done charging, you've received a message or a call, without activating the device.

-Unlike most Android devices screen lock is opened by pressing the home button and then swiping the screen from any point to any direction. Result: Screen unlocks itself many times during a day in a pocket unless I use an unlock pattern which I'd rather not.

- Android OS seems to be US centric. For example the device is advertised having swype keyboard. But there is no support for my native language. Market only has free applications as google has not rolled out the market in my region yet (Finland). Upcoming andoid 2.2 update has new features like voice search, which I'm sure won't work in finnish eihter. Google maps has turn by turn navigation.. it's just 'not available in your region'.

- Pinch to zoom. So finally I have a phone which can be operated in portrait mode, with one hand, right. So could some one show how to do pinch zoom with just one hand if I wan't to e.g. check some web link sent to me while walking around. It would be nice to use that N900 style zoom with thumb. Again nice job Samsung, removig the + and - buttons from the browser.

-So the phone is blazing fast.. except when it decides randomly freeze for 10 seconds or so. Really nice when you are trying to open a phone app. Sometimes it's fast and next moment is just freezes for seconds.

- No hw button for camera.
- Ironically Google talk IM integration was much better in N900. You could see if you're online or not a a glance and same for your contacts. Now you have to open the app to see your status and who's online. Also in N900 you could set your location as the status. If I leave my google talk account online in galaxy it sucks my battery dead in less that 24 hours.
-This leads to next interesting point. If you're running out of battery and device turns off you wont get your alarm clock going of. Is this the same on all Android phones? Nokia phones turn them self off when there is still some juice left in the battery and you are still able to wake up with your alarm.
-Speaker is useless.. small holes on back of the device. Sound is really muffled when the device is on the table.

There should be android 2.2 update for this device shortly. Let's hope it fixes some of the issues. Anyway when is the next Meego handset with hw keyboard due? :cool:

z3phyr 2010-08-23 09:22

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
my bros galaxy s just arrived today and iv been playing with it all day, its great. Does the cell modem really suck that much power? Because iv been playin with it all day on wifi with max brightness, on msn, installing and uninstalling apps and the battery indicator has hardly moved. This is without my sim inserted

tissot 2010-08-23 09:31

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z3phyr (Post 795605)
my bros galaxy s just arrived today and iv been playing with it all day, its great. Does the cell modem really suck that much power? Because iv been playin with it all day on wifi with max brightness, on msn, installing and uninstalling apps and the battery indicator has hardly moved. This is without my sim inserted

Galaxy S is generally thought to have great battery life. I have had it for a month and it lasts ~30hrs no matter what you do.

quazy 2010-08-23 10:22

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Just a little fyi....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761045
O and the samsung vibrant (tmobile version)works on att 3g also. :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ByK72F29tE
I'm just pissed i missed out on the no contract $250 costco mess up :( When they first came out.

danramos 2010-08-25 05:56

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Says it all about the Samsung Galaxy S. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPktfRx2fgc

Aladan 2010-08-25 06:18

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
THIS says all about the Galaxy S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1lfZ-RO0_c

yorg 2010-08-26 20:19

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
i wish the galaxy s had the n900 apps

i am missing skype, a dnla client that works, reliable internet radio, dosbox, mame and a decent task manager

it has a good browser though no flash yet but this should be fixed by october

it is also much easier to handle one handed and the battery is about as good as with N900... probably a bit better

it is a very good phone but needs a bit of polishing

i am more surprised with android's lack of basic apps. i thought by going to android i would have all those amazing apps etc

untrue, the N900 has by far the best community apps and its stock apps are much better too!

danramos 2010-08-27 07:55

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Ironically, more often I hear N900 people wishing the N900 had more Android-like apps. Huh. Who knew.

Jopp3 2010-08-27 08:15

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 799820)
Ironically, more often I hear N900 people wishing the N900 had more Android-like apps. Huh. Who knew.

The grass is always greener on the other side...


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