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HellFlyer 2010-08-02 21:40

Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Hey guys so after all of those negative comments on Ovi's new "funny" comics they got a lot of negative responses especially from people who use N900 integrated ovi services;)

Here are couple of their responses :)

Quote:

Hi, TheJ!

The team is continuously working on bringing new features into new Nokia platforms such as Maemo and Meego, but we don't yet have any update regarding Ovi Maps, so for now: please be patient :)

Quote:


Hi, kfx!

I'm sorry for the issues you've faced; I've forwarded you comment to the N900 team.

Quote:

Hi, TK!

So sorry you've had difficulties with Ovi Maps, I've forwarded your comment to the responsible team.


What do you think will we get more attention from Ovi team or this is just a bullcrap to shut us up?

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 21:41

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 773593)
this is just a bullcrap to shut us up

^ this

amebes 2010-08-02 21:43

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773597)
^ this

Most negative user award goes to...

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 21:47

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amebes (Post 773600)
Most negative user award goes to...

Its called 'waking up and facing reality' :)

Your image of Nokia Support and N900 Team:

http://www.airbornewireless.com/images/tech_support.jpg

http://www.scmdemo.com/images/44/lar...Developers.jpg

Reality:

http://www.zasted.com/wp-content/upl...ap_450x385.jpg

http://www.zasted.com/wp-content/upl...ker-012309.jpg

devu 2010-08-02 21:47

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
You might overlooked more angry man victims around, treated as idiots. No more bullexcrements.

sepehrsfmech 2010-08-02 21:47

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
PRADABRADA congrats for being a troll,

jk, but can you go less with the negativity?

danramos 2010-08-02 22:07

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 773607)
PRADABRADA congrats for being a troll,

jk, but can you go less with the negativity?

Sadly...I laughed. I diagree with his negativity, at this point, but I had to laugh. :P

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 22:24

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 773607)
PRADABRADA congrats for being a troll,

jk, but can you go less with the negativity?

Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 773627)
Sadly...I laughed. I diagree with his negativity, at this point, but I had to laugh. :P

Its called facing reality.

Fact is Nokia dont give a **** about its customers, N900 customers in particular.

Fact is the world isn't all flowers and sunshine, but a ****ed up place. What do you tell a kid who loses his mother on his birthday because she speeded to get him a present? 'Stop being so negative and cheer up! :)'?

Stop living in a dream world and confront others critically on their mistakes until they show improvement. Either that or let them fail for the rest of their life.

pantera1989 2010-08-02 22:27

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
http://www.sol-online.org/content/Do...-the-troll.jpg

amebes 2010-08-02 22:40

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773639)
Its called facing reality.

Fact is Nokia dont give a **** about its customers, N900 customers in particular.

Fact is the world isn't all flowers and sunshine, but a ****ed up place. What do you tell a kid who loses his mother on his birthday because she speeded to get him a present? 'Stop being so negative and cheer up! :)'?

Stop living in a dream world and confront others critically on their mistakes until they show improvement. Either that or let them fail for the rest of their life.

dude nobody lost their mother because of ovi store. you just made a bad tech choice and now you're mad.

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 22:51

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amebes (Post 773650)
dude nobody lost their mother because of ovi store. you just made a bad tech choice and now you're mad.

The point is the world is ****ed up, Nokia only cares about your money.

The anecdote is a true story, but not related to Nokia afaik, but its an accident just waiting to happen with Nokia's buggy software moving into automobiles.

I'm not mad because of N900, I already sold mine and moved onto a Desire :cool:. I'm disappointed in how Nokia treated and continues to treat its customers. Its a ****ing disgrace.

I expect this behavior from Chinese KIRF companies, but from a major player like Nokia? In any decently run company the entire Ovi & Maemo Team would've been out on their arses along time ago.

But whats even more pathetic is the understanding attitude from the majority of users here towards them. For a better description, click the link in my sig. The optimism towards Nokia on this forum really needs to die.

aligatro 2010-08-02 22:53

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773605)
Its called 'waking up and facing reality' :)

...

xD This made me rofl.

Viipottaja 2010-08-02 22:56

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Prada, what is your nickname on Howardforums?

devu 2010-08-02 22:56

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amebes (Post 773650)
dude nobody lost their mother because of ovi store. you just made a bad tech choice and now you're mad.

Dude, maybe PradaBrada's comparison is to strong but I have to agree to all related to ovi store failures. Is not the end of the world obviously, nobody have died, but I put this that way:

Somebody gave you a lot of promises and failed,
you giving him another chance and he gives you another promises and failed again and so one on...
You still keeping some faith because it was almost like your best friend.
And then he came back and saying I have big present for you. I will pay you back the whole inconvenience... introduce it whole louder this time that you in your naive-being gave him another one chance once again.
And then he just laugh on you giving you s*** treating you as fool once again and you can clearly see he even don;t understand what he done thinking he made you happy!.

In the real life you should probably use your stronger hand and punch your friend as hard as you can. If you are member of some religious institution probably you could give him a pray for sin forgives or something. How you can express your frustration over the net regarding to company and its promises?

And what really happening here is we as community trying to play a second friend as replacement for Nokia failure because we see that present can be delivered anyway. Community trying hard giving small bits of this promises people are appreciated for that but looks like the bad old friend don;t care anymore and still kipping the keys to this treasure chest.

amebes 2010-08-02 23:02

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
i agree it's disappointing, but I don't care enough to rant about it. I guess you do which should be fine too.

i love my n900 but I'm jealous of your desire.

such an emotional rollercoaster when you own a Nokia.

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 23:06

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Viipottaja (Post 773666)
Prada, what is your nickname on Howardforums?

Viipottaja

Quote:

Originally Posted by amebes (Post 773671)
i agree it's disappointing, but I don't care enough to rant about it. I guess you do which should be fine too.

i love my n900 but I'm jealous of your desire.

such an emotional rollercoaster when you own a Nokia.

Sell it and get a Desire! Best decision I've ever made :D

HellFlyer 2010-08-02 23:12

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773659)
The point is the world is ****ed up, Nokia only cares about your money.

The optimism towards Nokia on this forum really needs to die.

Give me an example of a corporation that doesn't care about money :)

If optimism died we wouldn't see portrait keyboard , vert sms , hex hack for flash 10.1 , thanks to Qgil we might even see MeeGo on N900 and much more.

I created this thread to see what people are thinking and maybe we will we see some positive moves from Nokia ;)

extendedping 2010-08-02 23:17

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amebes (Post 773650)
dude nobody lost their mother because of ovi store. you just made a bad tech choice and now you're mad.

yea but they might, trying to drive while looking at the phone due to no voice navigation.

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 23:22

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 773681)
Give me an example of a corporation that doesn't care about money :)

If optimism died we wouldn't see portrait keyboard , vert sms , hex hack for flash 10.1 , thanks to Qgil we might even see MeeGo on N900 and much more.

I created this thread to see what people are thinking and maybe we will we see some positive moves from Nokia ;)

Keyword: only
Alot of companies care about money, but not only about money, they have pride and love for their fans and userbase.

Optimism towards Nokia dieing has nothing to do with portrait keyboard, that is being/was done by the community.

I'm remaining sceptical about MeeGo on N900, but if that really turns out to be so, much thanks to qgil

fahadj2003 2010-08-02 23:23

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773639)
Its called facing reality.

Fact is Nokia dont give a **** about its customers, N900 customers in particular.

Fact is the world isn't all flowers and sunshine, but a ****ed up place. What do you tell a kid who loses his mother on his birthday because she speeded to get him a present? 'Stop being so negative and cheer up! :)'?

Stop living in a dream world and confront others critically on their mistakes until they show improvement. Either that or let them fail for the rest of their life.

had the 5800 back in the old days?
ppl begged for kinetic scrolling and fixing the "freezing issue"
u cant run 2 apps on it at the same time
i think all their phones have issues
n81 had the "camera: feature not supported"
etc etc

Viipottaja 2010-08-02 23:27

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Prada, lol.. well based on your style and comments i have a pretty good idea..

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 23:35

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Viipottaja (Post 773701)
Prada, lol.. well based on your style and comments i have a pretty good idea..

I have never heard, nor want to hear, nor give a **** about howardforums :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 773695)
had the 5800 back in the old days?
ppl begged for kinetic scrolling and fixing the "freezing issue"
u cant run 2 apps on it at the same time
i think all their phones have issues
n81 had the "camera: feature not supported"
etc etc

Indeed, Nokia has been a disgrace ever since the post-N95 era

gerbick 2010-08-02 23:40

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 773627)
Sadly...I laughed. I diagree with his negativity, at this point, but I had to laugh.

Equally guilty.

blipnl 2010-08-02 23:55

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
@ prada, if you sold your device why are you still here? Not like you care about us, more likely care about complaining?

There are people here who haven't been neglected as a child and have proven to funtion in this modern society, and even experience good things such as this amazing device. Although i should not have fed you just now, you have issues man.

fahadj2003 2010-08-03 00:00

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773707)
I have never heard, nor want to hear, nor give a **** about howardforums :)



Indeed, Nokia has been a disgrace ever since the post-N95 era

could not agree more mate..
for some reason.. my n95 never froze.. and i think its camera is better then n900 <.<

mishmich 2010-08-03 00:10

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
These dudes who forget to take their medication on this forum; really makes me laugh. It's nearly as funny as a satanist on a bible-study forum.

imperiallight 2010-08-03 00:14

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
I wish I could laugh at dudes who defend Nokia and think the sun shines out of their backside but I actually genuinely get sad instead. Its watching someone being let down by someone they put alot of trust in.

PradaBrada 2010-08-03 00:28

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
^indeed, makes me wanna tellem: son, i am disappoint

Quote:

Originally Posted by blipnl (Post 773720)
@ prada, if you sold your device why are you still here? Not like you care about us, more likely care about complaining?

There are people here who haven't been neglected as a child and have proven to funtion in this modern society, and even experience good things such as this amazing device. Although i should not have fed you just now, you have issues man.

Voor de lol :) this place offers too much comedy gold :o

fahadj2003 2010-08-03 00:30

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 773734)
I wish I could laugh at dudes who defend Nokia and think the sun shines out of their backside but I actually genuinely get sad instead. Its watching someone being let down by someone they put alot of trust in.

actually..
in my opinion..
nokia always comes up with a new idea.. which is new to the market..
like n900.. internet table.. linux.. open source.. and phone features..

the bad part is, as soon as someone else releases a better device, nokia calls off the support..
thats really annoying..

imperiallight 2010-08-03 00:32

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

actually..
in my opinion..
nokia always comes up with a new idea.. which is new to the market..
like n900.. internet table.. linux.. open source.. and phone features..

the bad part is, as soon as someone else releases a better device, nokia calls off the support..
thats really annoying..
Yeah I agree. Or they themselves maybe releasing a better device.

qwerty12 2010-08-03 00:33

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773737)
Voor de lol :) this place offers too much comedy gold :o

Ajax!

(Classic Only Fools and Horses episode...)

danramos 2010-08-03 04:54

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773692)
I'm remaining sceptical about MeeGo on N900, but if that really turns out to be so, much thanks to qgil

You hear that, Qgil! It's ALL on you! You alone are the sole scapeg--er, I mean... YOU ALONE are the one that brought down Nokia single-handedly! :rolleyes:

In all seriousness, I put a very little blame on any engineers or programmers for this whole mess and a whole heavy heaping of blame upon the myopic management that made this *****ic menagerie to massive mishaps. Meh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 773739)
actually..
in my opinion..
nokia always comes up with a new idea.. which is new to the market..
like n900.. internet table.. linux.. open source.. and phone features..

the bad part is, as soon as someone else releases a better device, nokia calls off the support..
thats really annoying..

Comes up with new ideas?? At one time, perhaps. Certainly not recently.


Case in point:

New to the market: full-swing production Internet Tablets! Linux based, even! Open-source!

NOT new to the market: SMARTPHONES! Time to play catch up! What? iPhone?? ME TOO! ME TOO!

Mgamerz 2010-08-03 05:13

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Android on the... G1? Was linux and a phone long before the n900. Albeit it wasn't as developed back then as the n900, but from the sounds of the n900 isn't developed that much in the first place.

Texrat 2010-08-03 05:21

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 773734)
I wish I could laugh at dudes who defend Nokia and think the sun shines out of their backside but I actually genuinely get sad instead. Its watching someone being let down by someone they put alot of trust in.

Extremism is rarely pretty. Oh, and that goes equally for absolute pessimists and self-deluded optimists.

The sky is usually blue. It occasionally sports rainbows after a storm.

ossipena 2010-08-03 05:59

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773605)

weren't you the guy who switched to android and started flaming maemo ever since?

poleepkwa 2010-08-03 07:02

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Prada,so you switched and still complain here?
Try to be more constructive with your criticism and give feedback instead of reverting to sarcasm.

kenga 2010-08-03 07:04

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
At least he says truth. Nokia don't care about N900 users.
I'm not sure about Symbian device users, but I'm pretty sure about N900.

giannoug 2010-08-03 07:11

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
@PradaBrada
http://captionsearch.com/pix/t1gb4klq3.jpg

:)

ossipena 2010-08-03 07:20

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenga (Post 773941)
At least he says truth. Nokia don't care about N900 users.
I'm not sure about Symbian device users, but I'm pretty sure about N900.

what truth?

his or a bit more broader version?

e: p.s. nokia said before N900 was launched implicitly that they "don't care about N900 users":
Quote:

Step 4 / 5
http://forums.internettablettalk.com...ad.php?t=31426

It is not my fault that someone has unrealistic expectations from N900. Just look at this community and what is has archieved. then just please shut up. Here are 2 kinds of people: those trollin' (because they didn't know what they were buying with N900) and those developin'. trollers rule tmo, developers do amazing things. Is it really worth being in trollin' -side? just think about it a second or two..

maartenmk 2010-08-03 07:30

Re: Nokia (Ovi team) started to listen????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 773695)
had the 5800 back in the old days?
ppl begged for kinetic scrolling and fixing the "freezing issue"
u cant run 2 apps on it at the same time
i think all their phones have issues
n81 had the "camera: feature not supported"
etc etc

I'm not sure if you meant this as a a bad or a good example of Nokia support, but:
The 5800 did get kinetic scrolling. And a new homescreen. And free Ovi maps. An updated browser. A new audio player. And it multitasks pretty well in my experience.


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