Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I'm starting this rumor now, because I sincerely think it's a good idea, and a possibility. I admit I'm crazy.

But think about it for a moment. After putting all its chips on maemo and renaming its site, the meego ship is sailing. Which makes more sense, keeping this site anchored to a dying technology, or broadening it to include discussion of all Internet Tablets, however one defines them?

The main page of InternetTabletTalk remains -- the way to keep this site alive into the future is to go back to that name. How long is Nokia going to be willing to fund a site dedicated to maemo? Maybe for quite a while, but not forever.

But a site devoted to all pocketable or near-pocketable devices that go on the Internet? That topic will never die. Hitching your star to a defunct product is just a death wish.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I think it needs a shorter and more memorable URL than internettablettalk.com if it is to be renamed.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

Would this include things such as the iPad/Kindle/Nook devices as well? I mean.. is there really any other "internet tables" in the way of N770/N8x0 that aren't "smartphones" now?

I would venture a "internetdevicestalk" instead... covering pretty much any device capable of connecting to the internet smaller than a netbook.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I would venture something like pocketpad.com (but this is taken)

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

talk.maemo.org should change to talktablet.org.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I actually like how 'tablettalk.org' rolls off the tongue :)

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

that could work..

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I think the focus should return to enthusiasts towards pushing the device to do odd and interesting things.

But I can't imagine anyone would come join the site when there are specialized communities towards iPhone/iPad jailbreaking, rooting and ROMs for Android, etc..etc..

The neat thing about ITT was pushing the Maemo devices to do things beyond just the Internet. Like running KDE, Easy Debian, etc.. at least that's what it was for me.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

Right, I just mean doing this for everything - not just Maemo.

But I guess it would be hard to compete with xda-dev's for Android and whatever the iSeries has.

The N770/N8x0 series get very little attention right now.. and the N900 will be that way after the next Harmattan and probably Full MeeGo devices hit the streets.. so it's not really a sustainable idea because even if we host it beyond what Nokia is willing pay for.. we aren't going to extend it's life much further, I don't think.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

Just a thought:

If ITT (or variant thereof) were resurrected, I think it might get back to the old feeling of the forums. I believe that most people would understand it's an enthusiast site if it is separate from Nokia/Maemo. This would likely reduce the amount of trolling/whining threads from where it is currently. You'd have fewer started, and fewer responded too.

Right now, I think many folks end up here thinking (at least initially) that this is an appropriate place to be for Nokia support / complaints. At first glance, one might assume talk.maemo.org is a corporate sponsored "official" Nokia site.

Being as Nokia has all but abandoned (IMHO) the Maemo product line, it might be nice to get back to a separate enthusiast site, that would still have some loose ties to maemo.org, but be clearly not Nokia.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

This is a good idea. We can then send all people with Nokia complaints directly to Nokia forums where they belong. Trolling has become the order of the day around here since the N900's release.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I don't think it'd do anything to do with the trolling or the whining. People will go to the primary/best place they can find to do that - and ITT:TNG would be aiming to be the primary/best place it can.

However, as has already been mentioned, it's going to be very difficult to form a community around a concept like the "walkaround web" when most people will have a single device.

Finally, you need someone to run it. Reggie's now running forum.meego.com, talk.maemo.org and forum.allaboutmeego.com. A new site would need: a server, an admin, a skin and a community. And it almost certainly wouldn't be the Maemo community that you'd move there wholesale - you'd have to start from scratch.

Anyway, the actual costs of running talk.maemo.org are fairly low, I don't think we need to worry about *.maemo.org being shut down soon. And beside, Google Ads can always be reintroduced and/or community fund set up.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

If "they" ever do shut down maemo.org, I hope they will just close off new activity and leave it as an accessible archive, a sort of read-only; because there's a lot of useful information in it that can't be found anywhere else. If I ever had to flash my N800 or N810, I'd be lost re-building it without access to posts on this forum. I assume it's the same for N900 users.

As I have said elsewhere, something needs to be done to separate out the Maemo stuff from the Meego stuff once Meego is launched. Is the idea that this forum will be only legacy and all Meego devices and topics will be solely on forum.meego.com?

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

How about burning all bridges to Nokia. Lets see how Nokia does with no "community driven support".

Its like cutting that string that attached you to your mother, long time ago.

It might help, in the long run for Maemo end even MeeGo.

Regards

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I don't know if it's even possible. There was some accommodation reached when internettablettalk moved that was never completely disclosed. Forum is still controlled by Reggie and domain name still registered and administered by Nokia AFAIK.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

Does anyone know of any good non-denominational tablet forum?

You know, like the mythical one we're talking about in this thread...

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

So... it was okay when the N900 came and snowed out all the N8x0 stuff, but now that MeeGo is coming, NOW you're worried about N900 stuff getting snowed out? Incredible. heh NOW you care about that.

At the rate the Android talk flies around here on the MAEMO site, this might as well be the place.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

they dont want device talk on forum.meego.com and there will be no forums dedicated to it there, they want to keep that place for development and OS talk only, the everyone is welcome to meego is not true and its starting show by isolating end users already.
reggie and rafe set up allaboutmeego forums so end users could go somewhere and discuss specific device's with dedicated forums to vendor handsets, which i applaud them for.

Re: Return of InternetTabletTalk?
 

I didn't see the little :rolleyes: icon anywhere in your post, so I thought I'd just make sure. :) Included below is my last Signature, which I've been suppressing for some months now.