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Apologies if this has already been posted but did a power search and did not find it.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/n...blets-android/

I really would prefer a tablet to a mobile as the tablet interface looks so amazing. But then again I would rather by a meego tablet from anyone but Nokia. However, I am not sure anyone would be releasing any this year which is disappointing.

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I am waitig for a Meego Tablet, 5 to 7", with a sleek form factor and a powerful cpu, and hardware kbd. I'll take the first out ;)

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I've been waiting for a decent size MeeGo device as a successor for my N800... and it seems my wait will continue. If only Dell Streak ran MeeGo. *sigh* Oh well... it's at least good to know now not to expect a big screened device from Nokia. So much for the "Lankku" rumors.

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Well honestly i wouldn't be surprised to see MeeGo tablet still being announced this year. 2 months before N900 some Nokia executive said we would not see Maemo phone....
There's some trust worthy sources saying that there would be MeeGo tablet this year. Would be such a waste not to get MeeGo tablet out this year, but who knows with Nokia.

All that said when we are talking about MeeGo tablets UX Nokia wont be the only manufacturer there. So like already said give ~7inch screen give it some umph and i'll get it.

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Its a shame if Nokia leaves out the Tablet form factor. I understand they need to concentrate of a smaller device portfolio to get back on track, but the tablet market is a big market and it would be a shame if they decide to stay out.

I for one am looking forward to a MeeGo tablet more than a MeeGo phone.

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I think that Nokia has at least investigated into making a tablet and probably have prototypes floating about the office. There's been rumours at such a frequent pace that there must be something going on at Nokia on this front.

However it could be that they have nothing at a point where they're anywhere close a release. After all, I'v read from a couple sources (Symbian Freak being one of them) that device development usually takes up to three years. And wasn't "Maemo6" being talked about already just before the N900's release?

So "not currently planned" just (probably) means that they're not ready to even think about the device's release just yet.

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There is an intel event on 4th September and the guys at carrypad are expecting there to be a meego tablet on display.

http://carrypad.com/2010/08/06/intel...pt-4th-berlin/

I feel Nokia is missing a great opportunity waiting to see what happens in the tablet market. By the time they have finished waiting to see they will be too late to the party as all their potential customers would already have bought ipads, android tablets or meego tablets from other manufacturers.

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Oh i wish he was right i wish.....honestly sometimes i think it would have been better if N900 was never released :(

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I'm starting to have more faith in intel with a proper meego tablet/phone than nokia.

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No , to me it seems Nokia learned from its mistakes. in past that was their problem they were laying their hands on too many things and in the result they screwed everything ei they lost US market and global market share went down..crappy phones in high end sector and much more

now they really need to focus on two thing (lets hope its not to much for their Finnish brains)

1. MeeGo high end phone
2. Solid competitive Symbian ^3,4 mid range phone

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Here is a working link:
http://carrypad.com/2010/08/06/intel...pt-4th-berlin/

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It's never ending cycle for Nokia. :) In the 90's Nokia made everything from computers(that was bought by Fujitsu), TVs, amplifiers, phones to DVD players.

I agree that Nokia needs to get it's core business right first, but Nokia got huge opportunity here to make people think MeeGo tablets=Nokia before some high ranking brand makes nice looking hw for MeeGo. I honestly think MeeGo tablet ux got some real possibilities to be something big.

I would love to have Nokia MeeGo tablet because they are locked to MeeGo in whole different way than example Acer and will have all of their current and future services for it, but still not going to wait for 8 months before a device.

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its obvious there will be no MeeGo tablet this year when MeeGo 1.1 will not be complete until October so best we could hope for a MeeGo tablet or smartphone would be early 2011.
remember the smartphone being announced at Nokia world is not strictly MeeGo its more of a Maemo 6, MeeGo hybrid.

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I think this is the biggest threat too. They need to improve their image as an innovator, and now they're giving some other manufacturer the opportunity to make everyone believe they invented MeeGo.

It's not good to stare at the bottom line so much you forget that some devices need to be subsidized with the advertising budget. Don't know if this is what's happening, but I don't buy the line about too many manufacturers entering the tablet market. Nokia already has an OS. Ordering something from Foxconn and slapping a Nokia badge on it shouldn't cause huge losses, and if they can outcompete others with their brand and Ovi support, the product line should become profitable within a year or two.

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If i'm nokia and the choice is to release a maemo/meego hybrid or a true meego 1.1 device, i'd rather wait and release a meego device and not piss off developers and users.

That being said with the way nokia has been going it'll be a maemo/meego hybrid that wont be updated to meego 1.1

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You know, if a tablet is priced wrong, it'll have to compete with slate PCs... I'm not sure both markets will still be seperate in two-three years. OS-wise.

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Much truth in this. That is why the iPad is in a different position than the anybody else. Macbooks *start* at 1000$ so the iPad always stays below that, both in price and in capabilities/OS. Other manufacturer's tablets are certain to bite into their own netbook/notebook offering, which makes the whole game a lot trickier.

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So you would rather wait until Q2 2011 before seeing a Nokia MeeGo device? Don't forget the most important thing from a developer standpoint is Qt. Qt works on the N900, Maemo/MeeGo hybrid and MeeGo proper devices. The pieces that are different shouldn't bother most developers of end user applications.

And Nokia could easily end upgrade fears by saying that the Maemo/MeeGo hybrid devices will be upgradable to Nokia MeeGo version XX when its available.

That's was the issue with the N900, basically know one knew if it was going to be upgradable and know one at Nokia was saying.

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I'd rather say it is sad that MeeGo isn't tried and matured on current hardware - here I'm specifically talking about the N900 and the Booklet 3G.

Use the N900 as nusery for the development of a more mature handset MeeGo - the resulat is avoiding the childrens decease that is is bound to be on the first device - having them on the N900 instead of the N9 should be preferable.

Also the Booklet 3G as it is today is drained by the W7 it is preloaded with. Introducing a Booklet 3G version running MeeGo with Netbook would probable result in a much faster experience (This require a stable GMA500 support from Intel) and it should be possible to maintain the battery time (that will be one of the main factors anyway - when Netbook and Webpad manufactorers in the future has to choose a preloaded OS for their creations - otherwise they'll just go for a walk with the Android - not mr. Data).

Many regards
Peter J

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yes awesome,nokia does a interview here and a interview there.meego,tablets,android......
they are talking about anything.
but whats with the 100 question about n900?
ovi maps?
pr1.3?
flash 10.1?
real meego?
real ovi store not this joke?
we get always a ****in maybe....

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Let's keep this thread just about tablets and slate PCs, please, thanks.

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Is Nokia World where they announce the one supposed Meego handset for this year, or is NvyUs talking about a different phone? That is, is Nokia releasing not even one pure Meego device this year?

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In the interview he says a tablet is just a square device and cant be differentiated from any other in many ways ... well

firstly the OS itself is the biggest differentiator. I mean every laptop is the same but the OS makes it behave differently (like with Windows, OS X or Linux flavour).

I dont see how a smartphone is also that much differentaited - its just a rectangular block with so much of combinations possible only - so if Nokia can do smartphones I cant believe it cant do a tablet and differentiate itself from any other manufacturer.

Yes I do agree Nokia may want to focus at this point and be successfull in a smaller portfolio, but hardware and software differentiation is certainly not the reason for dumping the tablet. From what I have seen MeeGo Tablet OS itself makes big difference from the other tablets in the market.

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as meego not only Nokia's, you shouldn't care that much, 'cause there would be a lot of other vendors releasing tablets with meego as if it would be successful

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Damn, I remember the N800 and N810 were so much different from any other handheld tablet, so why cant Nokia differentiate with a tablet/slate type of device ? I am really miffed at this rationale that he spoke about differentiation (rather the lack of).

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True ... but Nokia made good hardware and I liked that.
We need a big player behind Meego. Intel is one but I don't trust them to come out with a good consumer device. They are better playing behind the scenes on the chipsets level.

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Not sure if Nokia can pull it off, but I would try to bring a family of devices to market, not single ones. Each device runs Meego, and a similar (if not identical) UI:

11/2010: N9 (smartphone, no keyboard, 4 inch screen, Meego)
01/2011: N9 Tablet (Tablet, 7 inch screen Meego)
03/2011: N9k (smartphone, keyboard, 4 inch screen)
05/2011: N9 mini (3 inch screen)

Nokia would have a devices with similar features across a wide range of screen sizes, would stay in the tech news for a year, and could really gain momentum re developers if the family proves successful.

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Does it really matter if Nokia comes out with a tablet? I mean, there's been some tablets already shown, running the Intel version of MeeGo.

I personally welcome any MeeGo tablet as long as it was built well.

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Well it matters when we start talking about the software that will be build around the device. Nokia is tied to make all of it's current and future services for MeeGo. Somebody like Acer isn't.
But like i already said in previous page if Nokia isn't going to announce tablet this year i got no problems to go for some other manufacturer as long as it gathers big enough userbase.

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Pretty ambitious plan there, let's just hope by the time the n9 mini is released the n9 and n9k users won't have been used as beta testers.

Althoug they could release them a little sooner like how sony did with x10 mini and mini pro.

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I really dont understand how nokia makes decisions....

1. They first came into the tochscreen space with the 7710. Then they thought touch screen is never good on a phone and went back to slider. If they would have kept working on the toch screen they would be the market leader in touch phones too.
2. Then there was apple iphone and they started reducing the size of the screen.
3. Now there are tablets everywhere and they are not making them.
4 Then there is the biggest blunder of wasting time and resorces for symbian in touch phones

A lot depends for nokia on the n9

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What is the N900? I thought there were a number of people arguing it was a tablet or a computer-first, while the other (Nokia's own marketing included) argues it's a phone first.

Is the N900 a tablet? Clearly, Nokia marketed the 770/N8x0's as tablets.

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My comment had to do with the off-topic rant I quoted.

But where does Nokia's marketing declare the N900 is a phone first? The official designation is mobile computer.

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...but... but...

http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...andn900_228x96

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Thanks for showing me a "where". Of course lower on the page they got it correct.

They screwed up on the N800 too: it was listed under Phones. That caused massive confusion. I tried many times to get that corrected, no luck.

A separate tablet-oriented category is needed... "mobile computers" could work.

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Haha, I think Nokia Marketing listing the n800 as a phone is a clear indicator that marketing has no clue what they're doing. =P

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They've called my N810 a phone too when it came back from repairs. I can only blame marketing so much before I start blaming sheer ignorance.

But the whole mobile computer/internet tablet/whatever name is really not too bad. I just hate the fact that Nokia had the friggin' edge on what's out there now and just didn't stick to their guns when they should have, imho.

Would've, could've, should've... I just don't like the iPad.

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That's why you shouldn't blindly trust a brand.