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mchu6am4 2010-08-10 08:41

BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!
 
Well...I've always been a proud owner of Nokia phones since my first one in 1996 and have loved most of them...but over the last couple years Nokia have gone down in my estimation!

In fact, I was quite fed up with Nokia before the introduction N900 but I thought I would give Nokia another go...so I did after the late late late introduction of N900. Was very well made (although a bit too thick!) but it was a nice experience....and I was looking forward to great software to come....but I must say I was disappointed!

Fist of all, they dropped Maemo...(my £500 N900 became obsolete only after a few months of introduction!!!!!), although they did issue a rather poor update in PR1.2, with missing voice guided OVI Maps Nokia promised...just to name one of the many promises they broke!!!

Then, to add insult to injury...they announced that there would not be an official Meego build for N900....that was a really clever decision Nokia!!!

The only thing that's keeping the N900 going is the Maemo.org community as Nokia have sadly abandoned its loyal fans....so well done and thank you Maemo community...and sadly bye bye Nokia as I've opted for an Android phone...it's a much more exciting and fun OS albeit not as powerful as Maemo!

Good bye for now...Ash

Helmuth 2010-08-10 08:44

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With 17 Thanks? We will miss you. ;)

Could a Mod please merge this thread with one of the several others?

feighery 2010-08-10 09:10

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These threads are two to a penny now, and sadly I am starting to agree with some of them. I have not used nokia in years but bought the N900 as it was a proper linux phone (I know its not really a phone). Usual spiel, well built, miss the maps and all that but got over it due to the ability to do what I wanted with the OS. In hindsight I should have done more research as lack of USB host support, the annoying location of the usb port, lack of well layed out physical switches drives me mad at time. I am not blaming Nokia for failing with the phone, it was my purchase decision and it's my own tough **** when things like the physical aspects of the phone bug me.

Some people on here have to learn that a lot of people feel really hard done by from a software point of view and on the flip side a lot of the people with these complains need to realise that this is not a nokia site and most of us who are trying to get on with using the device and sick to death of the crying and moaning about this, that and the other. Both groups are runing the community the maemo.org site has given to so many people over the years, so please cut it out.

johnel 2010-08-10 09:16

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My problem is I really like my n900 - from a technical aspect Nokia have done a great job and it also has a stable OS.

It's not perfect but I use it all the time.

It's Nokia's current management team that are causing all the problems - ignoring the n900, ignoring maemo, switching to MeeGo and the utter fail of the OVI Store.

torshind 2010-08-10 09:25

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Could a moderator open a sticky thread "Old members say farewell!", please? :(

atilla 2010-08-10 09:26

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god damn not another thread......

johnel 2010-08-10 09:30

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You would think Nokia would notice threads like these and maybe start "asking questions".

courtneyg 2010-08-10 09:30

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You guys were obviously interested cos no one told you to look at these threads

jaimex2 2010-08-10 09:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 781301)
You would think Nokia would notice threads like these and maybe start "asking questions".

I thought all of Nokia's efforts are being placed in getting MeeGo happening. They just need to let everyone know the n900 will run it entirely and keep us in the loop and these threads will disappear.

gerbick 2010-08-10 09:33

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Ever taken the time to think that all of these farewell threads are indicative of a true problem guys?

I mean... besides the freedom of speech, it seems like a few people are jumping ship. And instead of attacking, look at the deeper problem(s).

smoku 2010-08-10 09:37

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This is a community operated site. No one from Nokia is giving sh* what is going on here.

Ergo - crying loud into friend's shoulder won't change the world... because world doesn't give a sh*.

slender 2010-08-10 09:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 781301)
You would think Nokia would notice threads like these and maybe start "asking questions".

I would think again.

mchu6am4 2010-08-10 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 781306)
Ever taken the time to think that all of these farewell threads are indicative of a true problem guys?

I mean... besides the freedom of speech, it seems like a few people are jumping ship. And instead of attacking, look at the deeper problem(s).

Thank you...and as stated in my thread I've ALWAYS owned a Nokia phone since 1996 (and loved most of them) but there comes a time when you no longer have any remaining faith in a company....sadly!

longcat 2010-08-10 09:41

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oh boy here, we go again, idiotic thread

matts76 2010-08-10 09:41

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Why do people feel the need to create these pointless threads there are hundreds already you could add your 2 cents to, or if ur pi**ed with nokia how about posting on their forum, dont fill up what is an amazing usefull resource up with more useless sh*t

Bye bye, dont let the door hit your arse on the way out

mchu6am4 2010-08-10 09:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 781309)
This is a community operated site. No one from Nokia is giving sh* what is going on here.

Ergo - crying loud into friend's shoulder won't change the world... because world doesn't give a sh*.

If it makes any better, I've also sent an email direct to Nokia IF it gets read!

mchu6am4 2010-08-10 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by matts76 (Post 781315)
Why do people feel the need to create these pointless threads there are hundreds already you could add your 2 cents to, or if ur pi**ed with nokia how about posting on their forum, dont fill up what is an amazing usefull resource up with more useless sh*t

Bye bye, dont let the door hit your arse on the way out

Some of you don't get it...do you...you just miss the point....just like Nokia!

gerbick 2010-08-10 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 781309)
This is a community operated site. No one from Nokia is giving sh* what is going on here.

Ergo - crying loud into friend's shoulder won't change the world... because world doesn't give a sh*.

That goes both ways. Why should anybody give two flying ****s if you love something so much?

Welcome to the community of nobody cares... that's pretty damn sad. I liked this place better when it was still ITT. People actually were friendly.

Now? Not so much.

longcat 2010-08-10 09:53

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I don't think this is a big deal people saying goodbye for being pi**ed of by nokia, but i think someone should create a thread in off topic zone - Good by nokia here !

It's just demotivating listening over and over the same story every day, come on guys there are still people developing for this and loving this device, there will be surely updates for some time, and i think there will be even a flash player 10 ( http://forums.adobe.com/message/2829804#2829804 , even it's old one ) ...

so please show some dignity ?

HangLoose 2010-08-10 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 781322)
Welcome to the community of nobody cares... that's pretty damn sad. I liked this place better when it was still ITT. People actually were friendly.

Now? Not so much.

Agreed, and as I said...
I am this close to buy an iPhone and turn into iSheep and live happily ever after in their rainbow dream and prozac talking.

Switch_ 2010-08-10 10:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 781328)
It's just demotivating listening over and over the same story every day, come on guys there are still people developing for this and loving this device, there will be surely updates for some time, and i think there will be even a flash player 10 ( http://forums.adobe.com/message/2829804#2829804 , even it's old one ) ...

so please show some dignity ?

Whilst I agree with the premise of your post I disagree with the whole dignity part. The OP has simply stated that he has lost faith in Nokia (which is a sentiment I can wholeheartedly agree with) and moved onto an Andriod based based phone that gives him the fun and support aspects bck from his OEM for the phone....

I agree it IS demotivating but by the same token, watching people like qwerty12's departure lends weight to the whole argument about the lack of respect and welcoming that sadly these forums seem to be short on.

Too many people are quick to judge and jump on the bandwagon, begin stoning people and actively seeking for a public lynching of anyone who dares to criticise the N900, Nokia or any of their subsidiaries. I agree with the OP - to a lesser extent - there are many things I would *like* my phone to do better, but at the end of the day I'm tied into a contract for the next year or so so I'm stuck with it, and just making the best of it. Enjoy it while you can, **** man, you may even learn something new!

I for one would like to say to the OP, thanks for coming along for the ride, sorry it didn't work out for you the way you hoped, and I hope you find what you desire in Andriod.

Drop by and watch some flamings from time to time, I'll have the kettle on and a packet of chocolate digestives.....

And if Johnel's coming, I'll bring cake.

gerbick 2010-08-10 10:06

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Wait. Qwerty12 left!?

Switch_ 2010-08-10 10:06

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Mh-hm.... I believe so....

gerbick 2010-08-10 10:09

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Holy ****. I just found it - here.

Wow. I mean, qwerty12 was a hero, a developer, got stuff done, answered questions. And people want to deny that something isn't wrong!?

Wow. I'm... actually speechless a bit.

qwenjis 2010-08-10 10:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by matts76 (Post 781315)
Why do people feel the need to create these pointless threads there are hundreds already you could add your 2 cents to, or if ur pi**ed with nokia how about posting on their forum, dont fill up what is an amazing usefull resource up with more useless sh*t

Bye bye, dont let the door hit your arse on the way out

Why do people feel the need to post those pointless comments "oh sh*t another idiotic thread"??? There's very clear name of the topic so you could just skip it, You knew what would be there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 781266)
With 17 Thanks? We will miss you. ;)

I hate people who judges only by "thanks" given. We are not millions here to think that if you don't have 1k+ thankies you are useless to the community.

maxximuscool 2010-08-10 10:12

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N900 is an old biitch now, new biitch is just around the block lol. It's old but I still love it. Got to agreed that Nokia losing me as one of their future customer as well if they continuing their terrible way of cashing from customer without proper responsibility in providing better products.

Hold an Iphone 4 in my hands today. Got to agreed that Iphone got so much better things inside (despite the signal problem and pain in the arse trying to activate it for my friend with the iTunes). Camera of the Iphone is fast and video is smooth, screen is superb and very very very responsive and smooth.

Oh well but I'm not jumping Apple ship yet. Apple still need to be more open to get me as a customer.

Switch_ 2010-08-10 10:14

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Sorry Gerbick, I thought you must have known about it - being such an active member on these forums. Yes, indeed, the demise of qwerty12, due in no small part to the antagonistic actions of certain other individuals who frequent this place.....

I was speechless too. If you read the rant you will understand fully the reasons why. I'm with him on his thoughts on the matter - and the previous posts from fanboys in this very thread are simply justification for his actions.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it's not a question of "when I ask for your opinion I'll tell you what it is", that's why it's termed "YOUR" opinion..... The OP has lost faith, moved from Nokia to Andriod. Fair play. I got no argument and neither should anyone else.

smoku 2010-08-10 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 781322)
That goes both ways. Why should anybody give two flying ****s if you love something so much?

Welcome to the community of nobody cares... that's pretty damn sad. I liked this place better when it was still ITT. People actually were friendly.

Now? Not so much.

I am being friendly. To all the community members that do care and give something back.
Do you think all these "farewell, PS you suck" posts are giving something to the community? We have too much noise here already.

But... if you want to stay with someone just turned his back to the rest, not with the rest - it's your choice. Be "friendly"...

mchu6am4 2010-08-10 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 781366)
I am being friendly. To all the community members that do care and give something back.
Do you think all these "farewell, PS you suck" posts are giving something to the community? We have too much noise here already.

But... if you want to stay with someone just turned his back to the rest, not with the rest - it's your choice. Be "friendly"...

It WASN'T a criticism or dig at the community...in fact I praised the community in my post...its Nokia at fault not the Maemo community!

ysss 2010-08-10 10:37

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I can see if people get annoyed at these kind of posts because they clutter up the forum and they may need to be organized in some better ways.

But the fact is that people object the content and they come in and post to retaliate against the writer, while ignoring\being oblivious to the bigger problem that these sort of post indicate.

So yeah, imho:
1. If you're complaning for better forum organization, I'm all for that.
2. Wake up and face the music.. get in touch with reality.

maxximuscool 2010-08-10 10:40

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Enough is enough guys! Please just let people leave in peace and be nice to one another. If we all are nice and helpful to one another then there will be no one fighting and angry, leaving, or ranting over something so simple. Attacking one another like a bunch of immature kids won't make this community united as a whole. We need to learn to understand one another and stop the bad comments please.

I beg of you people!!

cjp 2010-08-10 10:43

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In respect to why qwerty12 left, is the N900 particularly more "closed source" than the previous Maemo devices?

gerbick 2010-08-10 10:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 781366)
I am being friendly. To all the community members that do care and give something back.
Do you think all these "farewell, PS you suck" posts are giving something to the community? We have too much noise here already.

But... if you want to stay with someone just turned his back to the rest, not with the rest - it's your choice. Be "friendly"...

It's not considered noise when people agree with the mass. Disagree with the masses, then it's relegated to the worst bits of communication. I get that already.

And people, as of late, are only nice to those that agree with them. Worship the N900... ****. You'll have friends for life.

I get how these threads are... annoying to some. But let's dig deeper for once. The threads would not happen at this site, or anywhere if people were universally more happy about the product and communication.

That is what is being overlooked. Whine, complain, troll, argue, flame, hate, love, or blissfully remain blind to whatever you may choose in the life; that's a truth that's being wholly overlooked.

Not that everybody would have been happy with the N900. I used one for months, still avoided purchasing it. Not because I saw a sinking ship ahead (like I do now) but because I had needs that have yet to still be met in the device. Can't please them all.

But you can't flame them all either.

Sooner or later, these kind of threads will stop. I can remember a time when there were none. It'll get back there soon enough... just wonder what will it take to get there.

Nokia solving the problems, Nokia communicating better or Nokia releasing something new. At this rate, it'll invariably be the last option, unfortunately.

The friendly bit, it was a reading of the entire forum, not just you.

etuoyo 2010-08-10 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mchu6am4 (Post 781259)
Well...I've always been a proud owner of Nokia phones since my first one in 1996 and have loved most of them...but over the last couple years Nokia have gone down in my estimation!

In fact, I was quite fed up with Nokia before the introduction N900 but I thought I would give Nokia another go...so I did after the late late late introduction of N900. Was very well made (although a bit too thick!) but it was a nice experience....and I was looking forward to great software to come....but I must say I was disappointed!

Fist of all, they dropped Maemo...(my £500 N900 became obsolete only after a few months of introduction!!!!!), although they did issue a rather poor update in PR1.2, with missing voice guided OVI Maps Nokia promised...just to name one of the many promises they broke!!!

Then, to add insult to injury...they announced that there would not be an official Meego build for N900....that was a really clever decision Nokia!!!

The only thing that's keeping the N900 going is the Maemo.org community as Nokia have sadly abandoned its loyal fans....so well done and thank you Maemo community...and sadly bye bye Nokia as I've opted for an Android phone...it's a much more exciting and fun OS albeit not as powerful as Maemo!

Good bye for now...Ash

I am in the exact same position as you though my first Nokia was in 2000. I have never had any phone other than Nokia but N900 is looking like my last. Nokia is lagging too far behind and with so many amazing Android phones coming out like every other day the times of picking your devices simply on fanboyism (which is what I have always done - pick the best Nokia available) are a thing of the past. However, it is not the software support (no n900 maemo 6/meego update) and poor devices (n97) that has finally done it for me it is the lack of customer support - their refusing to fix the usb port on my N900 on the basis that they do not do international warranties).

JulmaHerra 2010-08-10 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mchu6am4 (Post 781375)
It WASN'T a criticism or dig at the community...in fact I praised the community in my post...its Nokia at fault not the Maemo community!

As far as I know, Nokia never promised Ovi Maps with navigation for N900. It was just our sincere hope, which is not necessarily dead yet, although there is no such thing in sight at the moment. Nokia to blame of demise of Maemo? Maybe, but for me N900 is not obsolete yet. I also see point in their strategy of migrating to MeeGo. From Nokia's point of view, they need an OS which has as wide user base as possible (they need it fast) and this is easier to achieve with merging Maemo and Moblin to MeeGo. Nokia did great job by bringing official support for Qt to N900, this means that our beloved N900 is not obsolete at least yet. All good things come to an end and at least I knew what I was going to get when I bought my N900. But then of course, if you are more comfortable with some other device and/or manufacturer, then it's best that you stick with such device and/or manufacturer. It's really as simple as that. That's what I do and for me there is a reason why I stick with Nokia.

pantera1989 2010-08-10 11:17

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Wow I'm feeling like I'm having a de ja vu :o

Haven't I seen this thread before...i'm leaving..nokia sucks..nokia rule..iphone sucks..iphone rules..we're abandoned..never promised..

I feel like I have already seen these.. :confused::confused::confused::confused:

mchu6am4 2010-08-10 11:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 781426)
Wow I'm feeling like I'm having a de ja vu :o

Haven't I seen this thread before...i'm leaving..nokia sucks..nokia rule..iphone sucks..iphone rules..we're abandoned..never promised..

I feel like I have already seen these.. :confused::confused::confused::confused:

iPhone does suck...so does Nokia....I've gone with Android!

longcat 2010-08-10 11:24

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android will grow old and suck too :P

gerbick 2010-08-10 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 781435)
android will grow old and suck too :P

Maemo 5 had only 6 months (before the MeeGo announcement) to "grow old". 6 months...

mchu6am4 2010-08-10 11:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 781435)
android will grow old and suck too :P

I'l move on to something better than being stuck with an unsupported OS.


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