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chaoscreater 2010-08-16 03:58
N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Hi guys, for all those of you that have the app "HealthCheck" installed, please do me this favor (if you don't have it, download it anyway coz it's a good app).

Please check these 3 things for me:

N900 Board
N900 Board Ver
Processor Information

When you launch Health Check, there should be 4 tabs. Those 3 above are under the "System" tab, and is located at the very bottom.


Also, please indicate whether your keyboard has the smooth keys or the rough texture feel to it.


The reason is because I have an older version of N900, and have been having problems with it lately. I posted this be4 but just a quick summary, I bought my first N900 in April, sold it after using it for 2 months, and then bought another N900 (2nd one) coz i missed it. But this time, I've got what appears to be an older version. Newer version have the rough-texture keyboards, while the older ones have the smoother keyboard.

I can definitely tell there's a difference between the 2, and now i've been having a few minor issues with my current one, whereas i didn't have any with my first N900.

Thanks.

maxximuscool 2010-08-16 04:07
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
N900 board: Nokia RXX-51 board
N900 Board ver: 2101
Processor Info: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v71)

There you go bro! I hope this is what you want aye!

chaoscreater 2010-08-16 04:10
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
thanks man. I forgot to ask, does your keyboard have smooth keys or have a rough texture feel to it?

jedi 2010-08-16 07:43
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v71)

And my keys feel quite smooth :)

Asterixnz 2010-08-16 08:13
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v71)


My keys feel smooth.

I have only had this N900 1 month after it was replaced as the original died. I would have expected it to be a new version. Seems not I guess. It stopped picking up 2G/GSM and had all sorts of power issues. This one seems really good.

moepda 2010-08-16 08:15
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jedi (Post 787757)
N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v71)

And my keys feel quite smooth :)

same here bought late march in uk...

chaoscreater 2010-08-16 09:30
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterixnz (Post 787782)
N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v71)


My keys feel smooth.

I have only had this N900 1 month after it was replaced as the original died. I would have expected it to be a new version. Seems not I guess. It stopped picking up 2G/GSM and had all sorts of power issues. This one seems really good.

Did your first one have the same keyboard??


Mine is the same as all of yours, and mine is the smooth keyboard, so i'm guessing there really is a difference. I'll have to check with someone who has the newer version though, so far it seems everyone has the smooth keyboard.....

maxximuscool 2010-08-16 09:50
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
My key feel smooth though. I don't have problems with mine, I got it since November 2009 lol.

maxximuscool 2010-08-16 09:54
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
reflashing both emmc and OS then you'll not have any problems

ravioli156 2010-08-16 09:55
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
It's possible that there are 2 different manufacturers for the keyboard, which would explain the differences... I don't think that the keyboard could be in any way linked with a revision of the motherboard... And I don't think there will ever be a new revision of the N900, it's dead hardware, that's all.

Helmuth 2010-08-16 09:56
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v71)

abill_uk 2010-08-16 09:57
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
You have the same board from day one and your problem is easy put right as long as you flash BOTH images one after the other without a reboot.

Leon4 2010-08-16 10:08
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Mine feels quite rough, however, the buttons are comfortable to press, I bought my device at the end of april :)

Asterixnz 2010-08-18 21:45
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaoscreater (Post 787853)
Did your first one have the same keyboard??


Mine is the same as all of yours, and mine is the smooth keyboard, so i'm guessing there really is a difference. I'll have to check with someone who has the newer version though, so far it seems everyone has the smooth keyboard.....
Yep both the old one and the new had/have smooth keys.

chaoscreater 2010-08-19 05:18
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterixnz (Post 791088)
Yep both the old one and the new had/have smooth keys.
hmm that means both times you got the older version.


I really need someone with a rough keyboard to test this and give me some info, it seems having a rough keyboard is rare lol.

N900@900MHz 2010-08-19 07:49
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
I have
N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v71)
board around april 2010

dogbed 2010-08-19 08:25
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Hi
I have rough keyboard and my board version is 2204. Bought phone late April

Venemo 2010-08-19 08:58
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
This what it looks like for me:

N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v7l)

Yes, the processor information is "v7l" and not "v71". At least that character looks more like an "l" than a "1".

Smooth keys or the rough texture feel?
I really cannot tell. Since this is the only N900 I have ever seen in real life, I dunno which it is.

I bought it in February as used, AFAIK it was bought as new back in December.

vickyg 2010-08-22 09:07
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaoscreater (Post 787615)
Hi guys, for all those of you that have the app "HealthCheck" installed, please do me this favor (if you don't have it, download it anyway coz it's a good app).

Please check these 3 things for me:

N900 Board
N900 Board Ver
Processor Information

When you launch Health Check, there should be 4 tabs. Those 3 above are under the "System" tab, and is located at the very bottom.


Also, please indicate whether your keyboard has the smooth keys or the rough texture feel to it.


The reason is because I have an older version of N900, and have been having problems with it lately. I posted this be4 but just a quick summary, I bought my first N900 in April, sold it after using it for 2 months, and then bought another N900 (2nd one) coz i missed it. But this time, I've got what appears to be an older version. Newer version have the rough-texture keyboards, while the older ones have the smoother keyboard.

I can definitely tell there's a difference between the 2, and now i've been having a few minor issues with my current one, whereas i didn't have any with my first N900.

Thanks.
Yes you are correct i have Board Ver 2204 Assembled date on Box is Jun/2010 keyboard feel rough texture.
I use to have Old N900 which i brought in gray market which have soft keyboard. Few days back i exchanged it with Indian Version.

chaoscreater 2010-08-22 09:18
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 791519)
This what it looks like for me:

N900 Board: Noxia RX-51 board
N900 Board Ver: 2101
Processor Information: ARMv7 Processor rev 3(v7l)

Yes, the processor information is "v7l" and not "v71". At least that character looks more like an "l" than a "1".

Smooth keys or the rough texture feel?
I really cannot tell. Since this is the only N900 I have ever seen in real life, I dunno which it is.

I bought it in February as used, AFAIK it was bought as new back in December.
Well, smooth texture is as plain as that. It just feels smooth overall, just like a normal keypad or any other phone. The rough texture feels exactly like a rough texture, it has a kinda dusty feel to it.

Actually, a better way of describing is this, if it feels like a standard keyboard on a PC, then it's smooth. Otherwise, if it feels like a Razor or Logitech gaming mouse with the rough texture surface on them, then it's the rough texture one.



Quote:
Originally Posted by dogbed (Post 791489)
Hi
I have rough keyboard and my board version is 2204. Bought phone late April
great, thanks for your info :)


Quote:
Originally Posted by vickyg (Post 794732)
Yes you are correct i have Board Ver 2204 Assembled date on Box is Jun/2010 keyboard feel rough texture.
I use to have Old N900 which i brought in gray market which have soft keyboard. Few days back i exchanged it with Indian Version.

Great, now i'm pretty much confirmed!




Ok thanks to everyone for all your replies, now i know there really is a difference to the 2 types of N900. It seems the board version really has something to do with most of the problems that some people have, apparently theirs were the old version and had a few problems here and there.......as i do now with my current N900 with the smooth keyboard, whereas when i still had my N900 with the rough keyboard, it worked like a charm. Right now, i'm experiencing all sorts of problems, like a faster battery drain, whereas this never happened to my previous N900, even though i use the same setup and installed the same list of apps.



I think we can investigate this further and find out what the real differences between the boards are, and whether this really affects the phone itself overall.....

ConiKost 2010-08-23 06:16
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
N900 board: Nokia RXX-51 board
N900 Board ver: 2204
Processor Info: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)

Mine N900 keyboard feel also rough texture.

Cthulhu 2010-08-23 13:40
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
I didn't install HealthCheck, since 20+ MB for a diagnostic app with many dependencies is a bit over the top for me.
I did however get the requested info from /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/component_version:
Hardware: Nokia RX-51 board
Revision: 2101
Processor Info: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)

My keyboard feels rough compared to a colleagues (that feels smooth).

somedude 2010-12-08 04:25
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
N900 board: Nokia RXX-51 board
N900 Board ver: 2204
Processor Info: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)

rough keyboard, and i do not have the gap between "x" and "c" like i and most people had when they were first shipped with smooth keyboard, also the keyboard fit feels more strudier than the old one when it was new.

plaban 2010-12-08 05:16
Re: N900 motherboard version, please help me out!
 
My keyboard feels rough.I bought it in Dec 12 2009.No problem so far (USB,Keyboard etc),it's still like brand new.


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