Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Hi everybody!

Now i'm havin some questions, tried to get answers on Russian f-boards, but no one helped me.So...


Now i'm having Nitdroid on SD card as second OS, but as i see, we can install Ubuntu 9.10 and MeeGo on N900....

So my question is how to install 3 OS ( Nitdroid, MeeGo and Ubuntu ) using Multiboot and .item files?

Anyone can help me and my crazy head? ^_^

Sorry for my Eng and mistakes)

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Make 4 partitions.
Find out how to get Multiboot to install any Kernels you want and create the .item files with the correct partition numbers.

It's virtually the same as installing just one OS, but you just change the Partition number to 3 or 4 and find the right kernel.

Done :)

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

So i can just repart my SD card to mmcblk1p1 ( k1p2 + k1p3 )

and like in nitdroid add information in item file to boot from % partition with % params and use % filesystem, yep? =)

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Yep, exactly right. But you also need to have the fiasco kernel image in /boot/multiboot/
Then multiboot will dynamically flash the different kernels as it needs them.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Hm
Yep, as i see now in my terminal :

#root
#cd /boot/multiboot/
#ls
vmlinuz-2.6.28-omap1 vmlinuz-2.6.28.NIT.05

So the next two should be [vmlinuz-2.6.28-MeeGo & vmlinuz-2.6.28-Ubuntu]
And that names should be correctly be written in /etc/bootmenu.d items.

Push me if i wrong in that =)

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

100%
Just make sure that the kernel name you put in the item file matches the kernel name properly.

Normaly the kernel name in the .item file is the same as the name in /etc/multiboot/ just with the vmlinuz- removed.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Okay, after my HARDEST monday, i'll come home, take n900, get in bad and spend all time just before my gf comes home ^_^

If i get any news, i'll post them here, like manual..)

10x SimonGie and kingoddball!

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

No problem, let us know how it goes.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Hm

If i'm doing that - i get a k1p1 with 14gb available, and k1p2 with 2 gb for NitDroid. OK

So now, if i'll try to do that again, my whole SD card will format again, isn't it?


Can i repart not a whole hard disk, but a partition with --force command?

Or better use fdisk for that?

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

For more patitions:

That will create four partitions, the first 3 will be fat, the last will be EXT3. Choose partition sizes for the first 3 and whatever is left will be the ext 3 partition.

The letter you put on the end of the line decides the file system so if you need ext3 partitions, use L instead of C.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

So i made that
sfdisk -uM /dev/mmcblk1 <<EOF
,2000,L
,2000,L
,2000,L
,,C
EOF

'cause Nitdroid MeeGo and ubuntu needs and ext3 partition.

The first step OK, today i'll download all images of OS's and tomorrow will try to install them on each one partition.

Thanks for all!
Have a nice day ^_^

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

You have to remember that the fat partition is now p4 though. If you follow the NITDroid guide that will tell you to install NITDroid on p2. You are probably best off sticking with this as the item file points to that partition.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

mornage, yep, i know that, thank you.
I'll change item file if get some probs,but hope won't =)

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Just need to use , not like in manual,yep?)



aaaand
use not ITEM_DEVICE=\${EXT_CARD}p2

Because when i made an file systemsi used
mke2fs -L NITDroid -j -m0 /dev/mmcblk1p1
mke2fs -L MeeGo -j -m0 /dev/mmcblk1p2
mke2fs -L Ubuntu -j -m0 /dev/mmcblk1p3
mkdosfs /dev/mmcblk1p4

Why i cant mke2fs -C Maemo -j -m0 /dev/mmcblk1p4 ? I'll get an error?

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Ubuntu 9.10 development is currently stalled (for the community - working on it here) till I get a faster network connection, don't try to install it.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Hmm... Ok, i'll try just nitdroid and meego now, than after your suggestion, will try Ubuntu...thx a lot!

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

There's no a easy way to boot in various OS's. Multiboot needs special kernel that recognise it and show the menu.

There is a kernel for Maemo and for NITDroid. But the kernel that MeeGo is using not work. You can boot to MeeGo with Multiboot, but can't back to other OS (Multiboot is no more showed).

I have MeeGo and NITDroid in my memory card, but after booting in MeeGo, I need to use Flasher to come back to Maemo or NITDroid.

Maybe there is a way to MeeGo itself reflashes the device....but it's beyond my knowledge.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

concerning meego: this might be helpful

http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/4202


Blues

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

jaguilar, it's the reason i started a new topic =)
We will try to fix it somehow.

BluesLee, thank you!

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

As i know, we can start an flasher from maemo distr, yep?
but why we can't use some "script" in bootmenu like "cmd" in windows \ unix?

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Yep!! In fact, this is exactly what Multiboot does.

What for??

The main problem after booting in MeeGo is that Multiboot is no more executed! The MeeGo kernel doesn't run it.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

eL.ectron1k,
If you already have stuff on your flash card then use Gparted. You can easily resize partitions and make new ones from empty space. Since ubuntu is stalled, you can try to install debian instead. They are very similar[ubuntu is based on debian], but ubuntu repositories have newer builds. I was somewhat successful following this: https://elektranox.org/website/debian_on_n900.html#nodm guide, but the gnome was unusable because of some bug.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

aligatro, are u talking about Easy Debian, or separate system on partiton?
If first, i have it, but it works hard because it's a new process in maemo, not new started from partition.

If second, i'll check it too.

Thx!

P.S.

I have no stuff on SD card, because i bought that just for systems.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

So...
Now i changed my partitions again =( ( yesterday Nitdroid didnt booted )

now i have:



First of all i'll try to install NitDroid again to the Second Partition, than will check Debian.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Guys, please help me)

Can't mount my SD card (9gb capacity = mmcblk1p4).

In FIles ( Default file manager ) i can see only internal memory, but cant see SD.

I tryed to do that:

mount /dev/mmcblk1p4 /media/mmc1

as i see, i making a mistake somewhere....

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

You have got your back over on??

If so, Maemo should automatically mount the fat partition. Have you checked in file manager to see if the sd card is there?

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

>>You have got your back over on??

Yep

>>Have you checked in file manager to see if the sd card is there?

I wrote by myself /dev/mmcblk1p4 in /etc/fstab and it works, but now carg is damaged.


Trying to use now...

mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk1p4


* Made operation with mkfs.vfat, but here is message "The format of your SD card is not supported" <---- Translated from Russian

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Hm, NitDroid doesn't work....

n900 loads, multiboot - i press 1 - lots of string - after battery27x00.....blablabla he is stopped.
I can just eject battery than maemo loads

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

I think you need to re-extract the NITdroid rootfs and that should make it work. It's a known issue that sometimes you have to re-extract. Don't know why it doesn't do it right the first time?

Hope you get the Meego running from sdcard and please do share how to if you get it going :D

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

I ran MeeGo in my N900. You can see some photos here (sorry, the blog is in Brazilian Portuguese).

All you need to do is follow these instructions.

As I said before, unfortunatelly isn't possible use Multiboot to run MeeGo, Maemo and NITDroid together. I can boot in MeeGo, but cannot boot back in Maemo or NITDroid without using Flasher...at the moment.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

in my application manager there is an actualization: "Enhanced boot loader for Maemo - Maemo ULTimate BOOTloader" .....

in the description says: "This package installs an enhanced bootmenu, needed for booting from a MMC card. This is required e.g. for booting other operating systems, like Meego or Android. This bootloader has many advanced features, including automatic kernel flashing using flash tools, kexec support, power configuration, etc. This software wa written by Jay Cartman"

and the version is: 0.2.10-1 .... i have installed the version 0.2.5 with maemo and nitdroid.

maybe this new version works too boot meego, android, and maemo ...i really don't know but check it out!

link to the package: http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

@Jaguilar

Are you only using the flasher to flash the kernel?

I believe Multiboot has the capability to flash whatever kernels you specify. Unfortunately, I don't know how.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

To boot in MeeGo I used Multiboot, but making some customizations (in fact only a symbolic link to the Maemo kernel libraries).

Correct. But the kernel you flash MUST recognize Multiboot, and show its menu. It occurs with Maemo and NITDroid kernels, but not with MeeGo kernel. So you can't back from MeeGo without Flasher.

@kishan
I really didn't test with lastest version of Multiboot because I installed it yesterday (and erased MeeGo partition). I will make some tests, but I don't think that will work...

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Only changes seem to be minor ones to get it to devel.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Hrmmm....
Yesterday i installed 0.0.5 version, than updated on 0.0.6 and it's workin' now....so problem with nitdroid is solved..

Now, waiting for NitDroid developers, when they make a manual how to install NitDroid 0.0.7 without autoinsteller, till then i'm installing debian on partition as system

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

There will no longer be a manual how to, if you want to do it manual you will need to get in IRC and ask for help. To many people messing up with manual install to make it worth having a how to.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

It's a separate OS.


http://downloads.nitdroid.com/nitinstaller/Packages/
it seems that installer extracts patches as well and overwrites files on the android partition. So, if you want to do it manually, you will have to extract them by hand. I could be wrong, I am not very strong in shell scripting.

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

aligatro,
yesterday I've installed NitDroid by autoinstaller, than reparted vfat to [ext3 ext3 vfat] partitions, so now is all fine, thx for ur advance!

Next time i'll try to untar patches and take a look on it)

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

hey
i also don't want to try automatic installing
so i used manual one
you just need to download packages and then install all of them
i tried it and it works without problems
it's very simple

Re: Maemo 5 | Nitdroid | MeeGo | Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
 

Will NITdroid ever have phone functionality?
I understood that it's difficult because phone stack is closed source and done in such a way - hardwarewice - that there's no existing solution for it.

Just asking cos it seems like we're having a dead OS on our hands allready :(