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mdx500 2010-08-18 16:17

Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
After using on and off my n800 for almost 2 years, I moved on to N900,
Moving from 4.1 screen to 3,5 didn’t help my eyes at all.
I was just thinking is there a way to increase system font size and also make the icons on the desktop look larger I was able to do it in winmo and symbian devices. I’ve tried to search , but didn’t find info on this, if this was discussed, point me please to that discussion

slender 2010-08-18 16:23

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
This from power search.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52474

mdx500 2010-08-18 20:54

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 790689)

the thread above discussing achivieng the effect of smaller icons, without a conclusion.

In my case i need to make them (and fonts) larger

puiradu 2010-08-18 21:15

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
For changing font size use Black Plastic Theme! Try the latest from extras devel! works like a charm! you also can choose your font not only the size of it, plus another cool options. after install you will find the plastic theme setup under the settings menu!
Hope this will help!

slender 2010-08-19 05:38

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdx500 (Post 790998)
the thread above discussing achivieng the effect of smaller icons, without a conclusion.

In my case i need to make them (and fonts) larger

I´m starting to feel that i´m the only one who really reads threads. To my eyes i clearly see Almehdi guide where he explains how to hack smaller (and also bigger icons).

About fonts i do no yet know. Try different themes. Its probably possible to edit some settings file by hand and i do not now have time to search it for you but i will get back if i happend to see something.

.edit
Oh puiradu just explained how to get different font size. Nice.

mdx500 2010-08-19 20:15

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Thanks will try to use the theme

gsever 2010-08-19 20:41

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Going through some pages of Customize N900 Conversations I managed to increase the font-size of IM conversations. Procedure follows simply as:

Go under /usr/share/rtcom-messaging-ui/html/
and edit MessagingWidgetsChatConversation.css

Locate div.Message { }
and add or modify font-size: 32 px

32 px is my current setting. Not sure how to alter other font size system yet unsure if any exist. This is the most required one for me and I have a solution.

I am looking more generic ways to increase font size in conversations and making it full screen to gain little more space. Jump in if you are interested in -> Two questions about conversations app

arne.anka 2010-08-19 21:41

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puiradu (Post 791038)
For changing font size use Black Plastic Theme! Try the latest from extras devel! works like a charm! you also can choose your font not only the size of it, plus another cool options.

well, you can't change the icon size and the font for the clock in the systray is apparently not affected (neither is the font of the calendar's first page with the events). the top bar is still too big and imo the device is getting slower than before and the cpu is used more (could be cqused by "custom transitions", although there's no explanation what that means).

icons have always that fade out look which makes sense only with the depressing default backgrounds (what is it with all these dark "oh, i wanna kill myself" themes?).

having to reboot after each change is not really appealing -- it has something decidedly windows-ish about it -- simply restarting X should be more than sufficient.

would be far more interesting, if somebody could create an application that allows easy change of font and size ...

i wonder, how meego will be in this respect -- still the same "stupid users do not need to configure anything except the background image" attitude, nokia sports so splendidly in maemo?

mdx500 2010-08-21 04:51

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsever (Post 792287)
Going through some pages of Customize N900 Conversations I managed to increase the font-size of IM conversations. Procedure follows simply as:

Go under /usr/share/rtcom-messaging-ui/html/
and edit MessagingWidgetsChatConversation.css

Locate div.Message { }
and add or modify font-size: 32 px

32 px is my current setting. Not sure how to alter other font size system yet unsure if any exist. This is the most required one for me and I have a solution.

I am looking more generic ways to increase font size in conversations and making it full screen to gain little more space. Jump in if you are interested in -> Two questions about conversations app

I got to give it a shot see if it will work for me, looks like a viable route for fonts in conversations

d-iivil 2010-08-21 06:25

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arne.anka (Post 792366)
well, you can't change the icon size and the font for the clock in the systray is apparently not affected (neither is the font of the calendar's first page with the events). the top bar is still too big and imo the device is getting slower than before and the cpu is used more (could be cqused by "custom transitions", although there's no explanation what that means).

icons have always that fade out look which makes sense only with the depressing default backgrounds (what is it with all these dark "oh, i wanna kill myself" themes?).

having to reboot after each change is not really appealing -- it has something decidedly windows-ish about it -- simply restarting X should be more than sufficient.

would be far more interesting, if somebody could create an application that allows easy change of font and size ...

i wonder, how meego will be in this respect -- still the same "stupid users do not need to configure anything except the background image" attitude, nokia sports so splendidly in maemo?

Since you seem to know how to do everything better I find it odd that you don't know you can change the font sizes to what ever you like by editing these two files:
/usr/share/themes/YOURTHEMEFOLDER/gtk2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/YOURTHEMEFOLDER/css/colors.css

After that just regenerate the gtkrc.cache and you're good to go (I suppose I don't have to explain how to do that since you already know about restarting the "X" and stuff like that...).

Btw, if you don't mind, please share what that "X" in fremantle is and how to restart it. I'm anxious to know how to refresh ALL theme elements without restarting the device. I would implement it immediately to Plastic Theme Setup.

Edit: yes, I'm having a bad day, trying to get rid of smoking...

Slate 2010-08-21 13:39

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Hi,

there is also this thread with advice how to change font size:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38541

I found it very useful. After an system update the small default size was back, though. Any ideas how to avoid this?

NokTokDaddy 2010-08-21 14:10

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
To mere mortals like me who stay out of the x term in case they accidentally create a rift in the space-time continuum, Black Plastic Theme is a godsend for increasing font size.

I really do think some posts could be a bit more grateful and less demanding; no-one charges for these amazing apps & widgets and access to them is our privilege, not our God-given right.

mdx500 2010-08-22 13:03

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Some of the more technical stuff working with files and scripts are beyond my knowledge.... I also realized that a care more about font sizes that icons..
It's a wishful thinking but having an addon app to do just that would take out a lot of frustration of using N900

mdx500 2010-08-22 13:56

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puiradu (Post 791038)
For changing font size use Black Plastic Theme! Try the latest from extras devel! works like a charm! you also can choose your font not only the size of it, plus another cool options. after install you will find the plastic theme setup under the settings menu!
Hope this will help!

puiradu could you please post screens shot black plastic theme from your N900, if this not too much trouble

d-iivil 2010-08-22 14:10

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
If I get few things ironed out, I will release a font size changer app in the near future.

gsever 2010-08-22 14:38

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 794964)
If I get few things ironed out, I will release a font size changer app in the near future.

You could setup a repository and share your code for those who are willing to tinker their settings manually. Or you could just list the places that you make font change so we could do this manually. Thanks for your effort.

d-iivil 2010-08-22 15:26

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsever (Post 794988)
You could setup a repository and share your code for those who are willing to tinker their settings manually. Or you could just list the places that you make font change so we could do this manually. Thanks for your effort.

Font sizes are definied in these two files:
/usr/share/themes/YOURTHEME/gtk2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/YOURTHEME/css/colors.css

I have wrote just simple shell script that adds new font values to those files. Now I just need to draw GUI and pack it up and send to repos. I'm just currently away from my computer so cannot do that right now, but will do that when I'm back home (thursday or friday).

gsever 2010-08-22 16:42

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
I use Nokia Nseries theme and this should corresponds to alpha in themes folder (default symlink to alpha actually)

Anyways, do you have to change the fontsize in two files at the same time? I see same lines in those files. By the way would these set the font size of microb?

d-iivil 2010-08-22 16:46

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsever (Post 795066)
I use Nokia Nseries theme and this should corresponds to alpha in themes folder (default symlink to alpha actually)

Anyways, do you have to change the fontsize in two files at the same time? I see same lines in those files. By the way would these set the font size of microb?

Yeah, editing both files is needed. Have no idea about microb.

gsever 2010-08-22 16:54

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
OK, I will wait for your GUI. So lazy to write a Python script as well :D It is a bit pain to change those manually --probably there will be a killall hildon-desktop to make them effective ehh?.

d-iivil 2010-08-22 17:01

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsever (Post 795074)
OK, I will wait for your GUI. So lazy to write a Python script as well :D It is a bit pain to change those manually --probably there will be a killall hildon-desktop to make them effective ehh?.

You need to restart hildon-desktop, hildon-status-menu and hildon-home and also conversations.

mdx500 2010-08-23 10:22

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 794964)
If I get few things ironed out, I will release a font size changer app in the near future.

This could be one of most usable apps on n900, since Nokia drop the ball on this and never addressed the issue

AlMehdi 2010-08-23 11:48

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
I might make a bash-script on resizing the aplication shortcuts. I don't know when though.. pretty busy now. I will not make a gui.. have to limited knowledge of that.

Also.. a script of that would become pretty massive. Don't know if it is possible in an easy way. But my mind have been crossed by the idea.

d-iivil 2010-08-26 08:29

Re: Larger desktop icons and font sizes on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdx500 (Post 795653)
This could be one of most usable apps on n900, since Nokia drop the ball on this and never addressed the issue

Well, now it's released, the Font Changer application:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=61047

:)


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