Leaked HTC Vision or T-mobile G2 or HTC Desire z
 

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/wp-conte.../08/Desire.jpg
Ok So the it has been confirmed that there will be a T-Mobile G2 http://g2.t-mobile.com/. All sources seem to indicate that the recently leaked HTC Vision is the T-Mobile G2. Other sources here http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/08/...f-your-dreams/.
Specs for the Vision Include

• 1ghz Snapdragon
• Ram is unknown but probably is 576mb or 512mb
• Four Row Physical Qwerty Keyboard
• Camera is Unknown
• Android 2.1 (atleast in the prototype) without HTC Sense
• 3.7″ 480 x 800 Capacitive Touchscreen
• HSPA+ if it turns out to be the G2

I have to say if it had the camera from the HTC Droid incredible it would be perfect. I have comes to like the qwerty keyboards on HTC devices quite a lot usually much better than the ones from Nokia or Motorola. The device seems pretty good I hope more info is leaked.

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I saw the news about this today... looks great!

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If this is real and on T-Mobile it would certainly give the MyTouch 3g Slide a run for the money.

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This are the not blurry pics lol

http://www.engadget.com/photos/t-mob...rycam/#3282498

;)

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what are the white keys on the bottom row??

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I don't know. They don't look like keys I've seen on any other Android systems. Judging by the icons on them (three boxes, with one of each box enlarged in each one), my guess is that maybe it's for navigating something? Maybe to make switching desktops easier or something? Seems silly, if they are.

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Very nice phone

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Is the keyboard flush with the screen? I like a lot (or maybe this setup is common and I don't know about it).

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I hadn't even noticed that--you might be right. Instead of just sliding up and down, it looks like it might lift off the keyboard and then sit flush over it? Interesting.

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More info has been leaked about the phone it has essentially been confirmed that the HTC Vision is the T-Mobile G2. My source is from here http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...know/?news=123 and here http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/s...1072511210617/.
Some more leaked specs specs

• Operating System - Android 2.2 without HTC Sense which in my opinion is beautiful looking but is more trouble than it is worth and the regular Android user experience is just fine.
• Processor - 1ghz Qualcomm Scorpion which has amazing capabilities such as 720p recording and decoding, 5.1-channel surround sound output, and support for cameras up to 12 megapixels.
• Camera - The spec of the camera is unknown but it being as the HTC Scorpion is capable of 720p video recording and playback and the fact that the device comes with Android 2.2 which has 720p recording and playback it should have that feature
• Screen 3.7 inches 800x480 Capacitive I think it would be safe to the screen is Amoled.
• Full slide out 4 row qwerty keyboard.

Also all sources indicate that the device will launch on September 29th. I have to say this one of the most leaked phones ever. Also something interesting is that the screen tilts like it does on the HTC Touch Pro 2 or Nokia n97. All it needs is an 8mp camera with dual led flash and then it could truly compete with the likes of the Nokia n9 or Samsung Galaxy S.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-cont...2-itw-2-04.jpg

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http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....2-ofc-leak.jpg
OK my sources are from here http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/c...-and-800mhz-c/ and http://www.tomsguide.com/us/T-Mobile...news-7911.html
Some more info about the device specs

• The operating system is Android 2.2 no HTC Sense
• The device will be capable of running adobe flash 10.1
• The device will have a 3.7inch oled capacitive Touchscreen
• It will have a four row qwery keyboard with three programmable shortcut buttons
• It will have an 800mhz Qualcomm Scorpion. Please keep in mind the Scorpion processor has the new Adreno 205 gpu. So the processor needed to be underclocked for the faster GPU
• Will probably be released September 29th
• Will have 4g through hspa+
• the camera is a 5mp camera with led flash and autofocus. the camera is essentially the same camera we have had on phones for years.
• The device can record and playback 720p hd video
• Has the standard wifi, GPS, and Bluetooth 2.1

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I wouldn't mind something like that rather than shortcut buttons. I've missed the ability to easily switch between screens in Diablo. But I realize I'm in the minority. Most optimally, they will be completely customizable so we can make them do whatever we want.

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I just ordered My G2

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Yeah the device seems great. I really like how thin the device is considering the roomy keyboard. The battery is excellent 6.5hours of talktime over 3g and 16.5days of standby time.

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Im sorry if I offend you guys, im sure this phone will work well for you...

Does anyone think this is just another android phone with a keyboard? What's special about it? Everything seems average, with a possibly below-average camera...

EDIT: by all means, its solid. but nothing really stands out as amazing. maybe im wearing nokia colored hardware-feature-packed-phone glasses?

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Well for the camera megapixelds doesn't necessarily determine the photo quality I always wait to see sample photos or video. It is an Android phone with a keyboard, but it isn't half baked.

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What you will see is how much everyone wish they android phone was like the G2 since it runs plain android which means updates quicker no need to wait months for carriers to add there bloatware to the update. And no senses to bog down the OS. And I saw the benchmark test today by far the fastest android phone on the market. Which i was suprised seeing its only 800mhz but its underclocked for a reason. My n900 wont be forgotten it will be my cool linux tablet from now on and sometimes will use it as my phone.

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That's GPU from the comparision images I've seen. Not CPU.

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Okay? So what are you trying to say? I know the GPU is the reason its clocked at 800mhz.

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I think the phones coming clocked in at 1 Ghz (though the whole snapdragon versus the different Android phone chips confuses me) would be faster than the G2 at 800 mhz. Though it's probably not a significant difference. But I don't think it would be the fastest phone on the market. Especially if the benchmarks are comparing a 2.2 G2 versus a 2.1 say Samsung Vibrant given the optimizations Google made in Froyo.

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True but we all won't know til its out in the wild among other phones. But I'm sure it will be fast enough for me and if not still got my trusty ole N900 :D
But in all honesty I believe it will be a good phone.

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I'm getting really tired of seeing people grr it doesn't have a 1ghz processor. Well mhz isn't a proper way to compare different processors. It is like saying a camera that is 8mp will take better photos than one that is 5mp the only way to determine who has the better camera by testing photo and video capabilities and seeing the samples, just like you determine processor power by benchmark. All of these tech journalists need to keep something in mind this device runs on the newer Snapdragon that is 45nm instead of 65nm, so much better battery life (which is always ideal because smartphones get horrible battery life), the device also has the new Adreno 205 graphics which is more powerful than the graphics found on previous Snapdragon devices. Also it is like comparing an Amd Phenom x4 (3.4ghz) older to an Amd Phenom x6(2.8ghz) newer. These videos will change your mind T-Mobile G2 Benchmark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=279W15Wq3Gc where it outperforms them all and a tech demo from Qualcomm demonstrating what the chip can do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZcD-IqefY.

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Again unless that G2 benchmark is compared against other devices running Froyo I don't think it's an accurate comparision given the optimizations 2.2. Once all the devices are running Froyo then we can see how they all do in terms of benchmarking.

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It outperformed the Google Nexus One, HTC, Evo 4g, and Motorola Droid 2 which were all running froyo.

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really dont like saying this but..
thinking about switching to HTC desire HD in october,
unless nokia give us full flash and fix the play button on my media player widget by then!, cant really see that happening tho, if only they gave us full flash we would have the best device on the market again, but recently android have taken top spot IMHO, and that apple4 thingy still dont even come close!

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rrmaster has it right. The G2 is not a superphone that's gonna blow everything away, but is very capable. It's built and spec'd as it is for good reasons.

No way a G2 could replace my N900. Nothing can yet. But I just pre-ordered one for my wife. She's bright but is definitely tech-challenged and it will be her first smartphone. Because of that I wanted to give her something easy to use and that she could get help with if I'm not around. Nokia stores and support are non-existent in the US. No one she knows but me knows squat about Maemo/MeeGo or Linux. But T-Mobile stores are everywhere and several other family members are familiar with Android.

Plus, the G2 runs vanilla Froyo 2.2 in a nice, reasonable-size package with all the features she'll ever need. Real keyboard, HSPA+ go-fast speed, etc...should be a nice unit for her purposes.

As for me, I could never go Android again. I'll get her onto a MeeGo phone sometime down the line...

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The difference between Android and MeeGo is that Android feels like a very advanced mobile OS with many capabilities, while Maemo/MeeGo/Mer/Moblin feels more like a pocketable computer rather than an advanced smartphone that is the difference in my opinion. I think the G2 is better than n900 in terms of hardware yes it doesn't have the fancy stuff the n900 has but it does have a real keyboard that very well spaced while managing to be thing, the device is made out of metal and a mixture of other materials and the screen is made of glass instead of plastic so the device should be well built, the device has excellent battery life 16.5 days of standby and 6.5hours of talktime over 3g. The device can also do 720p HD video recording and playback. I think if your looking for a device to be someone's first smartphone I think you should take a look at the Nokia e73 mode or Blackberry Bold, Android might be too complicated for them.

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Maybe I can finally replace my Motorola Razr v3 (by the way still one of the best phone ever made) and my Nokia n810.

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Well my G2 will be here tomorrow. And im happy as I can be but until nokia show me what they going to do with meego and thr support than android is the next best thing. I never been an android hater at all if anything I tip my hat for how far along it has came in a short period of time. Like I said I'm still keep my N900 and still use it. But at this point in time I just need a phone that just works. As of late the N900 been acting wacky.

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My G2 just came and man does it feel solid. Like the metal touch to it. Slides real nice and smooth and the four keyboard is nice. More on it when It's fully charged.

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http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/09/1...-z-and-desire/

http://www.htc.com/www/product/desir...ification.html

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I am eagerly waiting for the Desire Z to hit german retailers. My N900 simply drives me crazy: Missed calls, sluggish OS, strange battery behavior and questionable support for the future.

The Desire Z looks really promising, if the keyboard is about the same quality the one of the Touch Pro 2 was - it is a real winner. Only thing which I am not sure about would be the opening mechanism. There are already a few reports out there the mechanism is too loose or does not really work in certain situations. Also I am wondering about the long term longevity of the whole thing. If one is opening the keyboard a few dozen times per day: How will the hinge system hold up after six or twelve months?
The 3.7" is a nice thing to have, it will be a pain for me to learn the capacitive screen though.