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railroadmaster 2010-08-29 02:37
T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....fsn97c2106.jpg
http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-cont...2-itw-2-04.jpg
OK before I start this I will give the source of my info is here http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...know/?news=123 and here http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/n...ilds-of-china/ . By now we know what both devices looks like what the software and operating system of each device looks like. Both devices have a tilting screen and four row qwerty keyboard. We also know the T-Mobile G2 has a 3.7 inch wvga(800x480) capacitive touchscreen and Nokia n9 4 inch but we don't know if the screen is wvga(800x480) or nhd(640x360) but the screen is capacitive. The T-Mobile G2 We know that Nokia n9 has an 8mp camera with dual led flash but we don't camera the T-Mobile G2 is. The T-Mobile G2 runs on Android 2.2 without HTC Sense and Nokia n9 runs on MeeGo 1.0 with Nokia software skin and enhancements. T-Mobile G2 has the Qualcomm scorpion MSM7230 and processor of the Nokia n9 is unknown some think it is a 1ghz Arm cortex A8 and other think it is a 1ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon. T-Mobile confimed that the G2 will 4g through hspa+ and the device has the standard wifi, bluetooth, and Gps and other connectivity is unknown. The Nokia n9 has the standard wifi, bluetooth, and GPS. Both devices can record and playback 720p HD video. Storage capacity of both devices is unknown some say the Nokia n9 will 64gb of storage others say it won't. So based on everything we know about devices which seems better this is just open ended question. In my opinion I would go for the G2 because it has 4g (through hspa+) and has overall better design. I would get the Nokia n9 because it would be the first MeeGo device. Again feel free to answer.

dynomot 2010-08-29 02:41
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
Too many unknowns. If your choice is based on getting 4G your device will be obsolete in other areas by the time the infrastructure has caught up.

railroadmaster 2010-08-29 02:52
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by dynomot (Post 801113)
Too many unknowns. If your choice is based on getting 4G your device will be obsolete in other areas by the time the infrastructure has caught up.
The T-Mobile G2 seems to have a better keyboard. I think a reason the get Nokia n9 is for the camera Nokia camera's are usually way better HTC's camera's. There is also the fact that Nokia n9 is the first MeeGo device. On the other hand T-Mobile G2 has the Qualcomm Scorpion which is faster than existing Qualcomm snapdragon's and ti omap's.

tzsm98 2010-08-29 02:54
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
You can call me a fanboi but I would go with the Nokia. I've used Samsungs (x497,T509, T519,U600, G600, D900, D900i, Katalyst, Behold), Motorolas( V188, V635, V3, ZN5) and a G1 and I find that I consistently have a better experience with Nokia devices.

From the monchrome screen candybars of yore to the 5160, 5230, 5800, 6133, 6290, 7370, N75, N78, N97 and N900 I've had outstanding luck with durability, reception, TX/RX audio quality and just plain old "fun to use".

I've got an N8 on pre-order and can hardly wait to see what Symbian^3 has to offer.

I'll probably sell the N8 to buy the N9.This is based on my past experience of really liking what Nokia devices do and how they do it. The other brands always seemed to be lacking in features, ability to customize, or find out basic information about the device.

railroadmaster 2010-08-29 02:57
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 801118)
You can call me a fanboi but I would go with the Nokia. I've used Samsungs (x497,T509, T519,U600, G600, D900, D900i, Katalyst, Behold), Motorolas( V188, V635, V3, ZN5) and a G1 and I find that I consistently have a better experience with Nokia devices.

From the monchrome screen candybars of yore to the 5160, 5230, 5800, 6133, 6290, 7370, N75, N78, N97 and N900 I've had outstanding luck with durability, reception, TX/RX audio quality and just plain old "fun to use".

I've got an N8 on pre-order and can hardly wait to see what Symbian^3 has to offer.

I'll probably sell the N8 to buy the N9.This is based on my past experience of really liking what Nokia devices do and how they do it. The other brands always seemed to be lacking in features, ability to customize, or find out basic information about the device.
I never buy my phone based on brand. Say what you want about Nokia but there are cellphone manufacturers out there doing bigger and better things. Though Nokia does make good products don't ever buy phones just because there from brand name or another.

tzsm98 2010-08-29 03:07
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 801119)
I never buy my phone based on brand. Say what you want about Nokia but there are cellphone manufacturers out there doing bigger and better things. Though Nokia does make good products don't ever buy phones just because there from brand name or another.
As you can see from my post I've tried using other brands over several years. I never found a really good fit with the other phones. That doesn't mean I won't in the future but for now I'll keep going back to the well until I find I don't like how the water is tasting.;)

railroadmaster 2010-08-29 03:10
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 801122)
As you can see from my post I've tried using other brands over several years. I never found a really good fit with the other phones. That doesn't mean I won't in the future but for now I'll keep going back to the well until I find I don't like how the water is tasting.;)
Well I have used Nokia's in the past and they are pretty good, but I have found devices HTC and Samsung to be just as good if not better in some ways. There are cellphone manufacturers that I avoid at all cost such as Motorola, Apple, Palm, HP, and Research in Motion. As for design build quality I have found that HTC devices are very well designed and built really well. I had a Motorola Razr v3 and its call quality was absolute crap. I also avoid Motorola's because they crap on every phone they make (phones which aren't very good to begin with).

tzsm98 2010-08-29 03:27
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 801124)
Well I have used Nokia's in the past and they are pretty good, but I have found devices HTC and Samsung to be just as good if not better in some ways. There are cellphone manufacturers that I avoid at all cost such as Motorola, Apple, Palm, HP, and Research in Motion. As for design build quality I have found that HTC devices are very well designed and built really well. I had a Motorola Razr v3 and its call quality was absolute crap. I also avoid Motorola's because they crap on every phone they make (phones which aren't very good to begin with).
I didn't mention the Sony-Ericssons I've used because they were so forgetable - I forgot about them.

Brand avoidance is the inverse of buying by brand. Both narrow the universe of acceptable solutions and both have their origins in our experience with devices.

HTC does look to be putting out some amazing things. I also see amazing stuff, like the N900, coming from Nokia. You make a good point that looking beyond the label to the device behind it is the best way to go. I don't know if I could get comfortable enough with a different brand to the point of dropping the dinero I spend on a Nokia

markyt23 2010-09-08 12:41
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
I would go with the N9 for a couple reason, most basic: bigger screen, better camera, more storage. I have been emailing some guys at nokia begging for more details that are solid but as far as I can tell the N9 will be the first smart phone with 64g of hd space, The n9 will also have hdmi out the g2 will not, I would go with meego over android even though Google will give its official stamp with the g2 they are coming out with so many android phones you can buy the g2 and next week a g3 or similar device comes out with everything the G2 has but with 2 or 3 better must have features. I feel meego will...wait could be better if the community grows and the apps eventually get there. The N9 has a TRUE tilt keyboard meaning it will have the net book like feel, the G2 has more of a hoover out or slide keyboard, I think the G2 keyboard looks better but the design function of the N9 looks better, G2 has 4g but thats limited to region, and Im sure one of us geeks can tweak the N9 so its at least capable of reaching 4g speeds, and most of all the N9 should be like the n900 which means it will be completely open source meaning we can do just about anything on this device

railroadmaster 2010-09-08 14:27
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by markyt23 (Post 810588)
I would go with the N9 for a couple reason, most basic: bigger screen, better camera, more storage. I have been emailing some guys at nokia begging for more details that are solid but as far as I can tell the N9 will be the first smart phone with 64g of hd space, The n9 will also have hdmi out the g2 will not, I would go with meego over android even though Google will give its official stamp with the g2 they are coming out with so many android phones you can buy the g2 and next week a g3 or similar device comes out with everything the G2 has but with 2 or 3 better must have features. I feel meego will...wait could be better if the community grows and the apps eventually get there. The N9 has a TRUE tilt keyboard meaning it will have the net book like feel, the G2 has more of a hoover out or slide keyboard, I think the G2 keyboard looks better but the design function of the N9 looks better, G2 has 4g but thats limited to region, and Im sure one of us geeks can tweak the N9 so its at least capable of reaching 4g speeds, and most of all the N9 should be like the n900 which means it will be completely open source meaning we can do just about anything on this device
Well I happen to live in a region where there is Hspa+. I don't like Nokia n9's Keyboard(kinda important to me). As for MeeGo that is the one true selling point for me because the device will be the first MeeGo phone. I think people will buy the Nokia n9 for the same reason they bought the G1 because you be able to experience a Mobile revolution. Build quality seems solid on both devices. Screen size isn't that important to me as long as the screen is bigger than the one on Sony Ericsson Xperia x1 or Palm Pre I'm happy. Both devices will have oled wvga displays.

munkiii 2010-09-08 14:30
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
BTW, the G2 doesn't have a tilting screen.

That image you have used is just the screen in it's half way open position, it goes flat with the keyboard.

Images here.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en...w=1440&bih=745

markyt23 2010-09-08 15:52
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
....arent we biased in a maemo forum 10 to 2 N9 lol take that back
checked the android forum they are behind the N9 as well check it out
http://androidforums.com/android-lou...-nokia-n9.html

railroadmaster 2010-09-08 18:29
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by munkiii (Post 810694)
btw, the g2 doesn't have a tilting screen.

that image you have used is just the screen in it's half way open position, it goes flat with the keyboard.

Images here.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en...w=1440&bih=745
wow aren't we cool we put everything in caps because it means your being loud.

christexaport 2010-09-08 19:23
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
Its all about the OS, and Android vs. MeeGo shouldn't even have a discussion. Its like comparing an Apple IIe to a Windows 7 device. N9, and its not even close. Nice hardware on both sides, but Nokia always makes a better camera, and HTC can't spell camera.

railroadmaster 2010-09-08 22:37
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by markyt23 (Post 810779)
....arent we biased in a maemo forum 10 to 2 N9 lol take that back
checked the android forum they are behind the N9 as well check it out
http://androidforums.com/android-lou...-nokia-n9.html
Well I often times post messages on both talk.maemo.org and androidforums.com. I have an account on both places. I have both a Maemo device and an Android device.

railroadmaster 2010-09-08 22:59
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 810941)
Its all about the OS, and Android vs. MeeGo shouldn't even have a discussion. Its like comparing an Apple IIe to a Windows 7 device. N9, and its not even close. Nice hardware on both sides, but Nokia always makes a better camera, and HTC can't spell camera.
And Nokia can't seem to make a good keyboard from my experience the Nokia n97 and Nokia n900 both have two of the worst keyboards I have ever used. I have use both Nokia and HTC devices I like Nokia's for there camera's and HTC for there Keyboards. I like also like HTC device for the design and build quality (still can't find a phone that is better designed or better built than the HTC Hd2) and I like Nokia's for there cool extra features like fm transmitter and TV Out. As for MeeGo until we have large amount of application available for it and devices running it, it will be nothing more than hype and vaporware.

railroadmaster 2010-09-08 23:03
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
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Originally Posted by munkiii (Post 810694)
BTW, the G2 doesn't have a tilting screen.

That image you have used is just the screen in it's half way open position, it goes flat with the keyboard.

Images here.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en...w=1440&bih=745
Could you give me a link to the actual image not just a Google image search please I couldn't find anything.

railroadmaster 2010-09-08 23:21
Re: T-Mobile G2/HTC Vision vs Nokia n9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by markyt23 (Post 810779)
....arent we biased in a maemo forum 10 to 2 N9 lol take that back
checked the android forum they are behind the N9 as well check it out
http://androidforums.com/android-lou...-nokia-n9.html
I wanted the opinion of both the Android and Maemo community.


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