"Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/27/f...-beat-n9-to-m/

Any thoughts?

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Yes my thoughts are: And so what?

It´s not like the N9 is a Android device or that NITdroid on N900 will solve some problems with Maemo or Meego on the N900/N9.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

well probably its a threat to n9... Considering 2 large mobile OS combined into 1 superphone what else would you want? N900 can be overclocked to (i'm not sure thou correct me if i'm wrong)1.2ghz maximum and its almost close to the upcoming snapdragon 1.5ghz
the only weak point for n900 as i can see is the not so important lack of magnetometer and of course it's screen which is prone to scratches. And... Nokia support hehe

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

I believe this has been posted before. No problems though.

I think it's great progress. Offers a valuable alternative. There is still work to be done. Voice (Even though the calls are made, there is still no voice), SMS and Data.

Then there will be work on other stuff, If the devs are still up to it.

It's going to be a long process. I think comparison to the N9 release was pretty good.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Also, it seems the version with calling is not yet avail to download

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

according to what i've heard.. snap dragon is comparatively less powerful than cortex a-8
*forgot the source*

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

how is it fully functional ?

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

I heard that Snapdragon doesn't have a DSP. Which explained why it is less powerful in term of processing graphical vertices.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Nonsense. DSPs mostly help with processing video and audio. 3D is entirely dependent on the integrated 3D core, and the PowerVR is more powerful than what's built into the snapdragon.

Lack of a DSP would mean relatively poor video decoding performance.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

If this thing has vsync (which maemo doesn't) it will be a downright finger in the face to Nokia. As long as maemo lacks vsync it isn't "fully functional" in my opinion. (Unless you can tolerate constant image tearing. To which I ask would you tolerate this on your desktop PC?) /rant

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

it is not more than a fun project. nitdroid will never be for the masses. stupid headline from stupid engadget

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

what it boiles down to is the lack of apps, as a business looks like nokia is most concern about bringing up a new phone every so many months.

java and a symbian emulator would open this phone up completly.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Heh... I love the fact that Nitdroid is getting the attention it deserves.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Bullcrap , as much as I love Engadet they like to exaggerate things and have misleading yet catchy titles.
So NO it doesnt threatens N9 in any way and its not fully functional (yet)

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

I think it is way more, it gets so much attention with a good reason.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

It's great to see media sources highlighting the work done here by the community and it's members imo. Those that developed it should pat themselves on the back for the progression of the project.

Good work.

On a side note, do people think that the Nitdroid project could be transferable to MeeGo and the N9 ? Meego + Android + N9 ...

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

^^^^^^^ THAT would just ROCK

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

If it gets 3D acceleration at all I will be amazed. Tearing is the least of your concerns at this point, wrt. NITDroid graphics performance.

Android is mutually exclusive to MeeGo. Sure you can have both on the same device, but only one will be running at a time. And nothing from MeeGo will translate over due to the totally different userspaces and graphics subsystems.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

they already have 3d graphics acceleration.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Worst case scenario, this should prompt Nokia to be more proactive and take their committment to developing a solid OS more seriously.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

I'm doubtful they'll get decent GPS support, we don't even have this in MeeGo yet and ofono I don't believe is any help here.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

i tested nitdroid last night on my n900, still it needs much work
it stops responding every while and still many important features are missing such as phone and camera in addition to improvments in stability issues. i hope that nitdroid will get more attention and will spread more if these issues were taken into consideration...

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

i read that if any nitdroid update is available wd will be notified from maemo. but when we update will we loose our data stored in previous nitdroid version?????

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

I think despite it being a great technical achievement, I don't believe it'll ever be as usable as Maemo or MeeGo on the device. So I'm unlikely to ever install it myself, but keep up the good work guys :)

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

4 me it brought back some love in the N900....

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Nitdroid is much better now then a few weeks ago.

It's moving at a VERY VERY fast pace.

For now it is NOT my main OS (Till phone works and battery power managment is better) but it's really great that when i want I can boot to Android and back again!

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Sure, it's a great feat, but I'm pretty certain it'll never be as feature complete as Maemo is and MeeGo will be. And sprints in development are all very well, but some things just wont ever work. And GPS, unless I'm wrong, is something that makes Android phones that bit more useful :) That and I'm a bit of a geolocation geek. :)

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

@tswindell
Can you please tell us what is your opinion and how you see this. I´m sooo interested on hearing it once again because I still don´t completely understand. *Grin*

And btw. Last time I checked Nokia phones they had offline maps on them. Sadly N900 has it only by googling and doing some magic. I do not use 3g at all :| so yes Geolocation is fun when off-grid.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Not entirely sure what you mean, but loading maps onto the device is hardly magic. And not having a GPS is a big thing in the land of geolocation, cell towers and wifi hot spots don't really cut it.

I enjoy getting the full telemetry so I know speed, heading etc.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

haha the title made it sound like that the developers are taking over the world :D

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

N900 is a monster phone and Nokia is afraid of its own creation!!!
Had the maemo guys convinced HQ to release all closed source drivers, N900 would have been a serious threat to marketing/sales 101 = pay 500$ every 6-12 months for up to date phone.
I think that is the meaning of Engadget "threat".

Edit: forgot...I love this phone!

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

What IS interesting, IMO, is whether and when Meego to N900 will be more usable than NITroid to N900.

It is more like Meego/N900 vs NITroid/N900, than vs N9.

Right now, NITroid/N900 is alot more usable than Meego/N900.

NITroid will be a good baseline along with Maemo5 to the Meego developers.

Good Job, NITroid guys!

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Interesting, where'd they get the libraries for Android from?

The drivers that aren't open aren't theirs to open. The problem with Maemo is that parts of the OS and UI are still closed source, which only hinders people's ability to do things with it.

Re: "Fully-functional Android port for N900 threatens to beat N9 to market" - Engadget
 

Most of the reason for it stopping responding for a while is due to the fact that it is running from an sd card and not the builtin memory

The higher the class sd card the better it will be

I for one am pleased we have a bunch of guys getting Android working on the n900, I have 2 n900's one is my main phone running meaego and the other I dont use with a sim and is effectively an Android Tablet :)