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augustya 2010-08-30 12:08

is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Hey Guys,

I was wondering if any of you guys have got your hands on the New Samsung Galaxy S and when you compare it with our Demon, How does our Beast(N900) score ??

My Brother has just got one, so right now is constantly in front of my eyes which makes me ask you guys this. Its claim to Fame is the Super Amoled Screen with Android 2.1 and Boy !! that thing indeed has a superb screen. I mean what a screen !! It is just brilliant, Fantastic what a treat to watch !! It feels like a Rich PLASMA or a LCD TV and with the slick Android 2.1 it makes it a Mind Blowing deal. So what does our N900 LOBBY has to say on how does our Beast stands against it. Has anyone dig in to the Pros and Cons. If yes, please share it with all of us atleast I am very curious to find out!!

Cheers !

H3llb0und 2010-08-30 12:15

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Is that comic sans on your post?

Quick, Kill him!

augustya 2010-08-30 12:18

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Any serious observations ? comments ?

pantera1989 2010-08-30 12:19

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
We don't care.

slender 2010-08-30 12:19

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Oh dear god.

Are advertisements permitted here?

Why not compare to something that came two years ago?

Does Galaxy S have HW keyboard?

How about using search. We already have this topic.

H3llb0und 2010-08-30 12:21

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/image...221962-114.jpg

volt 2010-08-30 12:22

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Galaxy S:

Screen
+ Colours: Quite the difference.
+ Gorilla glass: The N900 is scratch prone.
- Not resistive: Some prefer accuracy, pressure sensitivity, stylus.

OS
- Dalvik: Nuff said.

Software
+ App store: Apps.
- Dalvik: Prevents application porting.

I'd say the differences are a matter of what do you want it to be. For some, the N900 is a much more powerful tool. I do not doubt the Galaxy S is a much more polished smartphone.

augustya 2010-08-30 12:26

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 802215)
Galaxy S:

I do not doubt the Galaxy S is a much more polished smartphone.

So tehcnically speaking the Samsung Glaxy has an edge ? right ?

jd4200 2010-08-30 12:28

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 802210)
Any serious observations ? comments ?

I'm sure there are many threads on the forum regarding this, could be why you won't get any serious responses.

But what comparisons are you looking for?
Are you looking to compare it as a phone vs a phone, or a tablet/computer vs a phone.
Or hardware vs software?

Phone v phone, I'd say the Galaxy would win.
Phone vs tablet, well you can't compare that.

My friend has the Galaxy S, and from a hardware perspective it does outshine the N900, especially the screen which is to die for.
It has alot of amazing features that if I was looking for just a phone, would certainly make me choose this one.

But I would not pass-up my N900 regardless of the hardware specs of the Galaxy.
For me, the Galaxy is a (smart)phone, where as the N900 is a mini-computer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 802208)
Is that comic sans on your post?

Quick, Kill him!

Yay for Linux not having the licenses to use comic sans!

volt 2010-08-30 12:33

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 802217)
So tehcnically speaking the Samsung Glaxy has an edge ? right ?

No, I wouldn't say it like that. Different tools for different markets. If you think the Ipad is superior to an Slate PC, the Galaxy is right for you. If you think a Slate PC is superior to an Ipad, the N900 might be for you.

To dumb it down: one's an ultra-ultraportable PC with mediocre phone capacities. The other one's a top quality phone with mediocre PC capacities. Do you want an internet device or a ringer?

johnel 2010-08-30 12:43

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
At least with my n900 I can see what's on my screen in sunny daylight.

mece 2010-08-30 12:47

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
A friend of mine has a Galaxy S and while it doesn't feel very robust, it's very light and the screen is really shiny.
It's not entirely smooth imo. lags every now and then, so my friend isn't entirely satisified. But if you want a shiny, flashy phone then you wont go wrong even though it doesn't have angry birds. Has very little in common with N900 though, so I don't see any point in comparing them.

augustya 2010-08-30 12:51

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 802225)
No, I wouldn't say it like that. Different tools for different markets. If you think the Ipad is superior to an Slate PC, the Galaxy is right for you. If you think a Slate PC is superior to an Ipad, the N900 might be for you.

To dumb it down: one's an ultra-ultraportable PC with mediocre phone capacities. The other one's a top quality phone with mediocre PC capacities. Do you want an internet device or a ringer?

Hmmm...You've put that interestingly... Do you want an Internet Device or a Ringer ? I am sure with Internet Device you mean the N900 right :-) (Please I am not dumb, just checking :-)

fixfox 2010-08-30 12:54

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
I have both phones and can answer specific questions.

Generally, the Galaxy S is a superior phone but for some strange reason, I can't leave home without the N900.

Galaxy S wins the following hands down...
- video playback
- speed
- screen
- responsiveness ( with lag fix)
- integration with google services (if that's important to you)

It will however match the n900 in everything else except....

- HW keyboard
- FM transmitter (my phone is my In-car music system)
- Maemo ( personal opinion - superior to android)

Jaco2k 2010-08-30 12:55

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Real question here is: Can you use ComicSans on the Galaxy S? :D

...and to be more on topic, I just ordered a Galaxy S to complete my N900. Have both! They are different beasts...

augustya 2010-08-30 13:06

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixfox (Post 802245)

It will however match the n900 in everything else except....

- HW keyboard
- FM transmitter (my phone is my In-car music system)
- Maemo ( personal opinion - superior to android)



It will however exceed the n900 in everything else except....

Correction made :-)

quipper8 2010-08-30 13:18

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
which is better a screwdriver or pliers?

same answer

johnel 2010-08-30 13:21

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
A the end of the day this debate can go on and on.
(We are an opinionated bunch here!)

Both phones (Yeah, yeah n900 is a computer first..blah..blah) have pros and cons and it is up to you to decide which one fits your needs.

(And I didn't bash Apple or iPhone!......whoops too late!)

cloudstrife1ph 2010-08-30 13:22

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
i'll just try my to use my android experience and a bit of a trial of the device at a shop...

i tried my brother's g1 before and successfully dual booted my n900 with nitdroid today. all i can say is it's really a phone like an iphone or any other phone. the n900 feels very different and more freedom to multitask and navigate like a computer. i can use android for fun but maemo will still be main...

galaxy for me:

= screen (an awesome screen is a treat but lcd is fine for a portable device)

= apps (yeah there's lots but i prefer sticking on one app that constantly improves than a gazillion which is hard to know w/c is better)

+ fast

+ maps

+ good feel while holding it (we all know n900 is thick for today's standard)

+ surely will get flash 10 (while not sure for maemo)

- hardware keyboard (still beats virtual for me)

- ir , fm transmitter (minor but still a feature)

- multitasking

cfh11 2010-08-30 13:30

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixfox (Post 802245)
I have both phones and can answer specific questions.

Generally, the Galaxy S is a superior phone but for some strange reason, I can't leave home without the N900.

Galaxy S wins the following hands down...
- video playback
- speed
- screen
- responsiveness ( with lag fix)

Out of curiosity, is your n900 overclocked? For me the n900 at 1.1 ghz (or even 850 mhz) is a whole new device and more comparable to newer devices.

cashclientel 2010-08-30 13:32

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
The N900 is almost 1 year old - which is a lifetime in terms of smartphones.

I render this comparison a waste of time.

AlMehdi 2010-08-30 13:33

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
I far from sure.. but think an undervolted n900 would beat the Galaxys battery charge. Or are it able to last longer than 72h? Do it have 32Gb space?

Ayle 2010-08-30 13:41

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco2k (Post 802247)
Real question here is: Can you use ComicSans on the Galaxy S? :D

...and to be more on topic, I just ordered a Galaxy S to complete my N900. Have both! They are different beasts...

Yes you can :D. You could even set the interface to Wingdings if that is what floats your boat.:D

More seriously I have both (though my N900 has been relegated to a pure internet tablet role) and personally I feel that the only thing holding back the N900 is its cpu and OVI store that might as well not exist.

Deaconclgi 2010-08-30 13:43

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
GPU wise, the N900 is no match. Screen wise, the N900 is no match. OS wise, Maemo beats Android in openess and features = Fact. One is a mobile computer OS, the other is a smartphoneOS. Your preference may vary but the truth is that Maemo is more robust than Android due to being as close to a full linux release as you can currently get.

I want the Hummingbird CPU+GPU combo that is in the Galaxy S and the SuperAmoled but not at the expense of having a mobile computer.

In short, the N900 hardware cannot beat the hardware in the Galaxy S phones due to a superior GPU in the Hummingbird processor. If you don't care about having a mobile computer/xterminal/opensource development friendly OS, by all means go for a Galaxy S phone. The GPU is reportedly able to max out at 90 Million polygons per second. Now if it is even pushed that far is anyones guess.

bzhbok 2010-08-30 13:47

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
What would be more interesting would be to compare N8 and Galaxy S.

Frappacino 2010-08-30 13:50

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
of COURSE the samsung will be better

the samsung galaxy was released when ?

the n900 was released when ?

wtf do u expect ? technology goes backwards ?

duh award of the week - darwin award even

NOMOS 2010-08-30 14:05

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deaconclgi (Post 802283)
GPU wise, the N900 is no match. Screen wise, the N900 is no match. OS wise, Maemo beats Android in openess and features = Fact. One is a mobile computer OS, the other is a smartphoneOS. Your preference may vary but the truth is that Maemo is more robust than Android due to being as close to a full linux release as you can currently get.

I want the Hummingbird CPU+GPU combo that is in the Galaxy S and the SuperAmoled but not at the expense of having a mobile computer.

In short, the N900 hardware cannot beat the hardware in the Galaxy S phones due to a superior GPU in the Hummingbird processor. If you don't care about having a mobile computer/xterminal/opensource development friendly OS, by all means go for a Galaxy S phone. The GPU is reportedly able to max out at 90 Million polygons per second. Now if it is even pushed that far is anyones guess.

You said it right, reportedly able to max out at 90 million seconds. Real life tests have not confirmed this, it is a theoretical number. Its strong, but not that strong.

volt 2010-08-30 14:21

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 802242)
Hmmm...You've put that interestingly... Do you want an Internet Device or a Ringer ? I am sure with Internet Device you mean the N900 right :-) (Please I am not dumb, just checking :-)

That's what I ment, yes :)
They both have strong sides, but on different tasks.

philh 2010-08-30 14:46

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Galaxy S is no match for N900 as it has no HW keyboard.

Next question?

augustya 2010-08-30 14:50

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philh (Post 802322)
Galaxy S is no match for N900 as it has no HW keyboard.

Next question?

Not having a HW keyboard is a Negligible thing, look what you are getting against that, 4" Inch Fantastic Amoled screen better GPU + CPU, Multitasking (Yes it also there in the Galaxy) A slicker and more recognized OS !!

fixfox 2010-08-30 14:52

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 802272)
Out of curiosity, is your n900 overclocked? For me the n900 at 1.1 ghz (or even 850 mhz) is a whole new device and more comparable to newer devices.

Yes, running @ 900mhz

philh 2010-08-30 15:05

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 802325)
Not having a HW keyboard is a Negligible thing, look what you are getting against that, 4" Inch Fantastic Amoled screen better GPU + CPU, Multitasking (Yes it also there in the Galaxy) A slicker and more recognized OS !!

Oookay but...

...it has no HW keyboard?

I just REQUIRE it, galaxy S and other similar devices are not even on my radar.

wovenstringz 2010-08-30 17:18

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Android and Google world are not for me thanks. I like to have the control.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...Samsung+Galaxy
Didn't I see this same thread posted somewhere else as well? Weird!

wmarone 2010-08-30 17:41

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 802325)
Not having a HW keyboard is a Negligible thing

Now we're broadcasting opinion as fact. The hardware keyboard of the N900 was a huge factor in my decision to buy.

Quote:

look what you are getting against that, 4" Inch Fantastic Amoled screen better GPU + CPU
A 4" screen would have been nice, and improvements in silicon are evolutionary, but vary in value depending on need.

Quote:

Multitasking (Yes it also there in the Galaxy) A slicker and more recognized OS !!
Android does funky multitasking that isn't the way it's done on the N900, and frankly I bought the N900 because it wasn't running Android.

So is the N900 a match? It depends on what you're after. For me, nothing touches the N900. Doubly so, considering that for anything else out there I'm forced to go through the carrier.

park 2010-08-30 20:02

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
I feel sorry, but to me this is another totally useless thread in a series of n900 vs. XYZ pointing out some shortcomings/lack of features of the n900 we already know about.

If someone is not happy with his n900, I would recommend to return/sell/bury it QUIETLY without posting it somewhere. Donīt share everything, pls.

My recommendation for the next comparison:
How does our n900 compare to an 8086 PC with and without Turbo-Mode.

abubakar 2010-08-31 05:40

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 802210)
Any serious observations ? comments ?

its got android ... we got m5: We WIN!

simple ....

gerbick 2010-08-31 06:08

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philh (Post 802322)
Galaxy S is no match for N900 as it has no HW keyboard.

Next question?

Epic 4G/Galaxy S Pro will have a HW keyboard. The latter will be GSM.

Now, with that bit out of the way; N900 pales in comparison in all but OS. I've had a Galaxy S (derivative) and it's hands down faster, better camera (yep, I went there) and just downright feels like a more complete, less buggy phone.

The battery life is the biggest downer - I use Zomut's Watchdog to mitigate most of that problem - and the Super AMOLED is honestly very readable/usable in direct sunlight. In fact, I'd say it's better than the N900 in that area too.

GPS on the Galaxy S is a current problem. I've tried every fix... none of them are "perfect". I personally get a lock that's usually within a block of me, usually on top of where I'm at... and real fast. But I've had incidents where it was nowhere near me - half km off. While in Pittsburgh earlier this year, the N900 underperformed in that area in a huge way where the GPS would take 4-5 minutes to locate me, and it was not always accurate whereas my iPhone 3GS was more accurate and fast, but still failed in certain downtown areas (Pittsburgh and Philadelphia).

I've used both very recently, and I give the edge to the Galaxy S phone - screen, speed, processor, lack of microUSB falling out (so far) and apps that I actually use that do not bomb out on me - ok, slight exaggeration, I've had some apps force close on me.

But honestly... people will/should choose what's best for them. I just found the Galaxy S to be closer to what I was looking for than the N900. Both are great pieces of kit, Samsung has the edge in a lot of areas imho.

abubakar 2010-08-31 06:55

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco2k (Post 802247)
Real question here is: Can you use ComicSans on the Galaxy S? :D

...and to be more on topic, I just ordered a Galaxy S to complete my N900. Have both! They are different beasts...

damn you ppl have a lot of money !!!

Alex Atkin UK 2010-08-31 07:58

Re: is our N900 any Match to Samsung Galaxy S ?
 
Personally I like to read these comparison threads when they are honest and objective. Now if they should be on this forum, that's a different issue.


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