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hycraig 2010-09-01 09:59

[request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
PSGroove has been released today and i wondered if it would be at all possible for it to be ported/run on the N900 to allow homebrew for the ps3?
i have read somewhere on the net it may be possible using a custom kernal
heres a link http://www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-...-your-ps3.html
and the files if it helps
http://dl.qj.net/dl.php?fid=128330&new=1
thanks

CrckMc 2010-09-01 10:44

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
i think kakarotos from ps3news is working on it i asked him this morning

flexxxv 2010-09-01 10:49

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Hmm
I think this will be hard, we don't even have host mode so maybe this is more easy for the n8x0?

CrckMc 2010-09-01 10:51

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
it has nothing to do with host mode, you even have to be in slave mode for this to work. we need to emulate an usbhub and send custom commands

NOkk3r1 2010-09-01 11:16

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
I was about to request this also. Looking really forward to this...

maxximuscool 2010-09-01 11:22

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
*Grabbing pop corn*
I'm going to keep checking back for news lol. Hope this can be done so I can finally get MAME on my PS3 :)

CrckMc 2010-09-01 11:25

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
i talked to i talked to KaKaRoTo again and he says he is advancing good.

if it is possible he will release, if not he will let us know :)

humble 2010-09-01 11:27

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
hopefully... cant wait to see this (then finally i can get to play some cave story):D

maxximuscool 2010-09-01 11:29

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrckMc (Post 804100)
i talked to i talked to KaKaRoTo again and he says he is advancing good.

if it is possible he will release, if not he will let us know :)

You know him? Actually I haven't been on the PS3news or haxPS3 community for a while now after Sony blocked the OtherOS lol. I am hoping this Jailbreak thing can re-enable my OtherOS back. I spent countless hours on tethering that linux side.

CrckMc 2010-09-01 11:34

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
i don't know him im just writing him over irc. please don't spam him so he can work on this :)

MohammadAG 2010-09-01 12:18

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrckMc (Post 804110)
i don't know him im just writing him over irc. please don't spam him so he can work on this :)

Which server?

CrckMc 2010-09-01 12:30

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
efnet #ps3dev but he is sleeping now

b15cu1t 2010-09-01 17:24

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Hope he beats the mongroids and igays to it!

jcesar 2010-09-01 17:28

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
I want it for N8XX

hycraig 2010-09-01 21:19

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrckMc (Post 804070)
i think kakarotos from ps3news is working on it i asked him this morning

yeah i remember now i also saw kakarotos on ps3news mentioning a possible kernel or something to enable this.
Hopefully this will be achievable using the N900s hardware :D

elie-7 2010-09-01 21:30

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
wait wait wait..... jailbreaking a ps3 using the n900, holly **** !!
name me one thing this device can't do .
i hope this works so can the idorks and idiotdroids can loock up to this device and feel shame of their devices .

mr_xzibit 2010-09-01 21:37

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elie-7 (Post 804637)
wait wait wait..... jailbreaking a ps3 using the n900, holly **** !!
name me one thing this device can't do .



cook my breakfast!!!!!

elie-7 2010-09-01 21:44

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_xzibit (Post 804642)
cook my breakfast!!!!!

overclock it to 1.15 ghz, run media player, youtube, gpodder downloads, vimeo, app manager, video recording.....at the same time for 2 hours than take of the battery cover and put an egg there, it should cook it, just make sure u still have all these apps opennes when cooking the egg ;)
or just download a remote app like irreco and control stuff that can be controlled in your kitchen .
or, the simplest way, call for delivery !!
i'm sure there is a lots of mre ways.....

devinger 2010-09-01 23:23

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
here is his blog. he has some problems. If anyone wants to help please go to his blog klik

Uxi 2010-09-02 05:34

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
excellent. looking forward to this, too

jcesar 2010-09-02 11:47

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
he wrote this on his blog
@everyone else: Thanks for the support! I don’t think I need any more help at the moment, I’m close to finishing it!

ceevee 2010-09-02 17:43

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
I'm really looking forward to this.

Thanks KaKaRoTo!

Creamy Goodness 2010-09-02 17:57

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
you guys are dumb, are you gonna be happy to run some app and have to plug the n900 into the ps3 every time you want to play it? just buy the $25 usb thing, way less hassle.

wmarone 2010-09-02 17:59

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 805477)
you guys are dumb

Translation:
Quote:

I don't like this so I'm going to go all ad-hominem on the people who asked about it!
Real nice of you there.

A better point would be "why spend the effort when Sony is likely capable of plugging this hole with an update?"

Quote:

are you gonna be happy to run some app and have to plug the n900 into the ps3 every time you want to play it? just buy the $25 usb thing, way less hassle.
And some people like doing things differently.

tentpole 2010-09-02 18:02

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
"By writing this exploit as a standard linux driver, this means that my module can be used on any other linux-enabled devices.. this means not only the N900, but also the 770, N800, N810, Android phones and future Meego devices. It might need a little porting for some devices though, but it should still work…"
According to his blog :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 805477)
just buy the $25 usb thing, way less hassle.

You don't know what that "thing" is, it is not surprising you don't understand. Less hassle? heh, this is the wrong place for that kind of thinking.. (Also, if/when sony plug this hole then just load a new exploit module the scene creates)

On a side note I like the fact that this exploit doesn't have a "backup manager" which means its all about homebrew and not piracy.
(can't someone make this thread turn into a piracy debate? That would be some original trolling)

The information on the exploit itself is pretty cool:
"The exploit carefully manipulates the heap by plugging and unplugging fake usb devices with large device descriptors until the device on port 4 which misreports its size to overwrite one of malloc's boundary tags. " from http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Dev/ps-ja...g-is-detailed/

Creamy Goodness 2010-09-02 18:17

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
dumb isn't a very strong insult, I'm sure you will get over it. lol.
I'm just pointing out it's not a good use of a skilled programmer's time to write an app that is "cool" but ultimately useless as the usb stick provides a much more convenient solution.
I'm just kind of defensive about people requesting stupid things. I think I explained why this seems stupid, but yes it's just my opinion. I work somewhere that computer programmers get paid a lot, so I am just saying this isn't a good use of a programmer's time. If he wants to do it anyways, great. But I hate to request and encourage people to work on things that are not going to be used. In fact it is quite possible that this cannot even be done, the exploit requires more control over the USB port than the operating system is likely to give.

NOkk3r1 2010-09-02 18:18

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 805477)
you guys are dumb, are you gonna be happy to run some app and have to plug the n900 into the ps3 every time you want to play it? just buy the $25 usb thing, way less hassle.

I think that you are bit dumb. And it is one of those things you do because we can... And there will probably be CFW in near future to patch ps3 so that you won't need any dongle.


"The PSGroove for now allows the very same features as the PSJailBreak but without backup manager support, you can also now remove the dongle."



Read more: http://www.ps3news.com/forums/ps3-ha...#ixzz0yOhAzYeU

mr_xzibit 2010-09-02 18:21

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
i agree. i would much prefer a decent remote play on my n900. my 2pence.

Creamy Goodness 2010-09-02 18:33

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tentpole (Post 805483)
"By writing this exploit as a standard linux driver, this means that my module can be used on any other linux-enabled devices.. this means not only the N900, but also the 770, N800, N810, Android phones and future Meego devices. It might need a little porting for some devices though, but it should still work…"
According to his blog :)


You don't know what that "thing" is, it is not surprising you don't understand. Less hassle? heh, this is the wrong place for that kind of thinking.. (Also, if/when sony plug this hole then just load a new exploit module the scene creates)

On a side note I like the fact that this exploit doesn't have a "backup manager" which means its all about homebrew and not piracy.
(can't someone make this thread turn into a piracy debate? That would be some original trolling)

The information on the exploit itself is pretty cool:
"The exploit carefully manipulates the heap by plugging and unplugging fake usb devices with large device descriptors until the device on port 4 which misreports its size to overwrite one of malloc's boundary tags. " from http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Dev/ps-ja...g-is-detailed/

hah, nice try. i actually know what it is. I've read all of that yesterday and already bought a "TEENSY++" from the manufacturer of those. i called it a "thing" because there are several different compatible devices and none of them share a common name.
If you read this guy's blog, he's been working on this usb driver module code for quite a while, well before the PSGroove release, and would appreciate it if people stop harassing him for his "status" on IRC. Not that it would be any of you guys, right?

Creamy Goodness 2010-09-02 18:35

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NOkk3r1 (Post 805493)
I think that you are bit dumb. And it is one of those things you do because we can... And there will probably be CFW in near future to patch ps3 so that you won't need any dongle.


"The PSGroove for now allows the very same features as the PSJailBreak but without backup manager support, you can also now remove the dongle."



Read more: http://www.ps3news.com/forums/ps3-ha...#ixzz0yOhAzYeU

yes, you can remove the dongle... i read that.
do you understand that you have to plug it back in every time you reboot? it doesn't permanently hack the ps3...

thp 2010-09-02 18:45

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 805514)
do you understand that you have to plug it back in every time you reboot? it doesn't permanently hack the ps3...

It makes the exploit just accessible to a broader range of people, and I think it's a good thing someone writes this driver/module for Linux-based gadgets. Not everyone has a Teensy board lying around, but if you happen to have a N900/N8x0/770 lying around, why not use it for this? It lowers the entry barrier (for users who already have a NIT-ish device). In the case of the N900, you might even be able to charge it while you are playing games.

The thing that worries me is that there's no real information about compilers, SDK, etc.. around that would help getting developers started writing homebrew (for the PS3). Right now, the only use for this *is* the Backup Manager - until some other software becomes available.

NOkk3r1 2010-09-02 18:49

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 805514)
yes, you can remove the dongle... i read that.
do you understand that you have to plug it back in every time you reboot? it doesn't permanently hack the ps3...

Yes I understand that, but I think it is not too much hassle since you have to power ps3 on from the unit anyway and not from the controller. And I assume there will be custom firmware within 2 months so I have to plug my N900 to ps3 for about 20-30... So I save an euro in every boot. :D

Creamy Goodness 2010-09-02 19:07

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
yeah hmm i forgot even with the usb dongle THING you have to hit eject within 200ms or something, i guess no matter what I have to get off the couch for now :(
you guys need to remember that the exploit at this stage gives access to the game OS or whatever they call it, not the PS3 kernel. They need to find another exploit to even have the ability to install a permanent replacement firmware (please don't refer to it as CFW, that's a PSP term). So my point is there is absolutely no reason to think that the PS3 can be fully rooted any time soon, unless you are confident that there are more bugs to exploit in their device architecture. The kernel is running on an isolated hardware environment (SPU), so it isn't supposed to be possible to do this. Hopefully, there are some more bugs, and the increased attention brings them to light. But I'm not holding my breath.

hawaii 2010-09-02 20:15

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
This is the current status of my assistance on the project;

/home/user # ./ps3pwn blob.bin
Loading blob.bin
Blob size is 0x6f0
mmapped 480ab000 -> 0x40002000 [0x1000]
mmapped 48004000 -> 0x40003000 [0x1000]
mmap ok!
Clocks: 032000d2
Revision: 00000033
Resetting OTG controller
Reset complete
Devctl: 00000080
High-speed mode disabled
Configuring endpoints
Waiting for connection...
VBUS detected!
Now soft-connecting
Entering IRQ loop
IRQs: 01
IRQs: 04
High-speed reset
get_descriptor(0, 1, 0) (0x8)
get_descriptor(0, 1, 0) (0x12)
Device 0 now has address 2
Commit pending address 2
get_descriptor(0, 2, 0) (0x8)
get_descriptor(0, 2, 0) (0x19)
Set configuration 1
get_descriptor(0, 41, 0) (0x20)
Set port 1 power to ON
Set port 2 power to ON
Set port 3 power to ON
Set port 4 power to ON
Set port 5 power to ON
Set port 6 power to ON
Triggering connection change for port 1
get_port_status(0001) = 0103 0001
Clear port 1 connect change
get_port_status(0001) = 0103 0000
Reset port 1
get_port_status(0001) = 0103 0010
Clear port 1 reset change
Switching to new device 1
get_descriptor(1, 1, 0) (0x8)
Got a SETUPEND condition
length 0?
get_descriptor(1, 1, 0) (0x8)

It fails after sending the descriptors - for some odd reason. Unable to get passed this on 3.41 with the N900. Beagleboard is a different story. I assum HAL and BME are tying up the driver from releasing and letting the userspace take over to deliver the payload.

If you can legitimately contribute, please do so.

Uxi 2010-09-02 21:21

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
have older firmware PS3 been tried? I took my fatty off the interwebs to avoid losing my OtherOS...

hawaii 2010-09-02 21:28

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Using an OMAP3 beagleboard and 3.15 - payload delivery is successful, but execution fails - because it's not 3.41

I'll update later.

jcesar 2010-09-02 22:03

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
I can test it on a N810 and 3.41 PS3

hawaii 2010-09-03 02:58

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quick update,

Payload delivery and successful execution has been completed by a Palm Pre. Successful PS3 jailbreak from a slaved Pre. N900 is next. Will report back once I confirm it's working.

Also, this has nothing to do with Kakaroto's work - which is just about done as I understand it. His is done through usb gadget, this is done completely through userspace are unbinding the driver.

ZogG 2010-09-03 03:53

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 805514)
yes, you can remove the dongle... i read that.
do you understand that you have to plug it back in every time you reboot? it doesn't permanently hack the ps3...

First of all, you can dump, as patches to that were released as well
Second, is that this ps3j on n900 is interesting as concept and even u are gonna paly games like that, it wouldn't be hard to have cable in PS3 and as your phone always on you, just connect it when u turn on system

andredurao 2010-09-03 12:31

Re: [request] Jailbreak PS3 using N900 using PSGroove
 
Well, as you can see Kakaroto isn't working on a psgroove Port, Hawaii which dev board are you using to run the exploit?


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