Anssi Vanjoki resigns
 

This is just in
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/n...njoki-resigns/
what you guys thinks that happen??? I think that he wanted to be CEO and he felt understimated when he wasnt selected... i liked his thoughts... This could be bad for Meego or new Nokia devices???

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He wanted to be CEO, the way this company is going, needs a big shakeup, new blood. Maybe he thought of the audacity of reporting to a Canadian was beneath him, for all the hard work he's put into the company.

In the end does it really matter?

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lets just say that it is excellent he stayed until meego was formed.

this might be also good if his replacer drums for further opening stuff up with meego etc....

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why is it bad for MeeGo ?
it was not even his choice to go MeeGo in the first place he was only in the job a few months.
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1443986

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No individual is bigger than the company... if he couldn't hack being passed over and reporting to a foreigner then it's too bad for him, not Nokia. Hopefully these are his reasons for deciding to move on, and not because he disagrees with any other changes that may be afoot to his division (Mobile Solutions).

I just hope the resignations don't continue on down the chain otherwise there will be chaos but I doubt many will be that foolish to follow in Vanjokis footsteps, unless there are some pretty cr@ppy technical changes being mooted...

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??

~20 years career in same company, not just months..

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the talks were about him working on meego, not nokia in general.

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So Mr 'Fightback starts now' cannot even stay true to his words. What happened to his oft mentioned 'obsession' with seeing Nokia back at the top? This kind of change is good for Nokia right now. Time to rid it of the arrogant old guard who stood by while the competition nearly destroyed it . What a joker this man is !

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yep your correct i was talking about is new role since the last reshuffle where hes head of mobile solution

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He became the head of Mobile Solutions on 1 July 2010.

His timing could have been better, what with Nokia World kicking off tomorrow.

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Maybe he saw something bad we don't see yet and realize the comback may never come....
- Meego development is behind schedule. Judging by current progress I have some doubt whether we will see golden release of Meego 1.1 next month.
- Harmattan is affected by Meego developement pace.
- Symbian 4 is delayed.

But anyway, obviously he is pissed off by internal politics. Good luck to him and to Nokia....

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He was a lot of peoples favorite to take over after OPK i think hes mad he got overlooked for the big Job

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Hmm I wonder how this will weigh in with Nokia being quick to attack the competition and become the leader and all that jazz we've been hearing for the past ~year?

I would imagine that this would result in some confusion if not among the ranks of ordinary workers, then Nokia getting together and keeping up with the strategy they've devised.

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Its probably a matter of internal politics and getting passed over. I'd be mighty pissed as well if I had sunk 20 years into a company, getting groomed for leadership and having it pass me by.

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[fantasy fairytale] I'd like to see Elop flying out the door and Vanjoki taking his place as CEO.

I think that Vanjoki is trying the ice with this move as he's decided to still hold his speech at Nokia World, unlike OPK. I think Vanjoki doesn't want to leave with a bad impression, so that future work at Nokia could still be an option.

Savander to fill Vanjoki's boots and Vanjoki to replace Elop. [/fantasy fairytale]

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I have the same prediction I had when Meego was announced: This will mean reorganization and delay.

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So... who else is going to buy the Intel MeeGo device instead? :P

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Hopefully the next Mobile solutions leader is going to be someone who's been working with Maemo and MeeGo. :)

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Maybe they can hire TexRat back? :)

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Tex for PREZ! :)

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I'd like Jaaksi for the job.

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This may mean also, that Olep will cancel Meego-plans and tries to get Windows7 to high end phones. Or, Microsoft will buy Nokia.

Oh well, hopefully Intel starts to make Meego-phones then. I couldn't care less of Nokia phones if they will run Windows.

All the companies Elop has been working lately are not known for their open source policies. Maybe that is what american stock holdrers want, Microsoft-Nokia.

Let's see who leaves next.

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According to Finnish business magazine Kauppalehti some analysts are speculating just that, saying "both companies have similar problems that could be solved by a fusion".

In my view, while Windows Phone 7 is surprisingly innovative and interesting, MeeGo is still too good opportunity to pass for Nokia. It has the potential to be a much better Android than Android :cool:

Better performance, more open development model, wider range of toolkits that can be used, available for more different kinds of devices (from phones to tablets, TVs and cars)...

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I'm just wondering about the timing. The Nokia World starts tomorrow. The announcement of replacing OPK could have easily been delayed until after the Nokia World. However they decided to "kick off the boss just before the big show". What could be the reasoning behind this?

These two incidents are so close, that there's no way this was a coincidence.

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I guess being considered for CEO post twice and getting passed on both times was enough.

EDIT:He was pretty much the only one among the old guard who I wanted to stay. Good bye mister Nokia-tune and world record holder on a single speeding ticket fine (120 000 euros).


Kaikkea parasta Anssille tulevaisuudessa, missä sitten lienetkään.Jääpä ainakin enemmän aikaa sille vapaaehtoisuuden musertavalle voimalle.

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Anssi leaving absolutely sucks. I would have probably done the same thing in his position. Mr. "The fight back starts now" is no more.

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Same thoughts... from my outsider perspective, this doesn't look good at all.

I wonder who will step up now and be as vocal and visible as Anssi Vanjoki.

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Very sad to see Vanjoki leaving. I was really waiting forward to see what he would he be able to do in his new position. I consider him to have always been the one who gets the wow effect in high end from the old Nokia execs.
Plus he have always been more open to talk what he truly wants to see from Nokia rather than the normal corpotate talk. Like example being the first one to admit(and only one) from Nokia that N97 was a failiure even as it sold in millions and that the current Nokia's hw platforms are too old.

I can only hope somebody who knows what he's is doing gets that very important spot that Vanjoki left.

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The timing couldn't be better. If they had waited for after Nokia World, that would be hypocritical.

The event is interesting per se because it's a time when people get to know what are the company's plans. Even people inside the company probably get to understand better where they should be heading. Having important management changes like this only makes it more interesting.

They changed the CEO and Anssi decided to leave. Now everybody is saying "OMG does that mean they are going to replace everything with Windows Phone 7???" What better time to answer this question than at Nokia World?

Imagine the opposite. They have a "normal" Nokia World, and then after that they make the changes. It would be much harder to control all speculations, they would do much more damage. Right now, it's all they wanted: gathering more attention to the event. They will end the event with a stabilished CEO and a digested replacement to Anssi. All that will be old news after Nokia World. Otherwise, the even would soon become irrelevant, and they would be "bleeding" the despair of these changes for a long time, e.g. with people saying "Nokia doesn't know what they are doing". Nokia World is the moment they show (or at least say) they do.

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Of course Nokia will go WP7. That was made perfectly clear as soon as Elop was hired and again when at his news conference neither he or any Nokia wag would voice support for MeeGo when asked.

For more reasons why this is a virtual lock check out my comments in a few posts near the end of the CEO resigns thread. I'd bet my house that MeeGo, in regards to Nokia, is a dead deal. Which means my first Nokia will be my last.

Hopefully other companies will pick up MeeGo where Nokia left off and produce some nice MeeGo devices. Otherwise, I don't know what I'm gonna do when I'm forced to retire the terrific N900 I'm typing this on. Apple, Android, Symbian and WP7 are not possibilities.

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Oh man... thanks but I don't have even a fraction of the necessary skills/background/education... much less desire to be at that level. It would be nice to be back in some capacity, but it isn't that one!

That's a misguided stretch. Elop spending a couple of years at Microsoft in no way translates to Windows 7 on Nokia devices. Where do you guys come up with that sort of craziness?

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I think Nokia using winmo is an absolutely absurd idea. I don't think any of the stock holders want that so it doesn't really make much sense to me why anyone would jump to that conclusion, except to sound sensationalist ...

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I'm not so certain about that. This is one possible scenario, but not the only one (or even the most probable one) .

Currently, Nokia's options are:

1. Keep going with Meego
2. Moving to Android
3. Moving to Win7
4. Becoming a multi-platform company, focusing on hardware and running different OS's.

I think becoming a multi-platform company is unlikely. Nokia would be lost without a focus in one platform. Plus, they took a CEO with software background, not hardware background, which means they intend to keep pursuing the "software company" vision.

There are several reasons for going with Android: it is already an established platform, it is popular and there are a lot of apps for it. On the other hand, the Android market is already crowded, and Nokia would find it difficult to compete with the already established players in this market. In addition, Android is controlled by Google, not Nokia, so going down the Android path means being Hardware company only.

As for Win7, it could give Nokia the opportunity to become a major player in this platform, and a possible strategic deal with Microsoft would give them more control than they can get with Android. However, this is a risky choice. Previous iterations of windows mobile where failure, and it has the baggage of a negative public image.

Additionally, there is the N9. Indeed, the device is not out yet, and canceling a project before going out to market with it is something companies are doing all the time. However, I'm not so sure Nokia can afford canceling the N9 now. It can take Nokia a long time to develop a device based on a new platform, maybe another year. And in the meanwhile, they will have a gaping hole in their product line, without any high-end device (and I don't consider the N8 to be a high end device).

So Nokia can either cancel the N9, have another year without any real flagship device and then go with Win7, which is yet another unproven platform. They can go on with the N9 and Meego and see how successful it is and decide what to do with it next, but without any real commitment to the platform they won't get a lot of developers on board and it WOULD fail. The last option is to go on with the existing plans, and with their commitment to Meego, and execute it well.

It seems like there are great risks and problems with any of the options they got, so I'm really not sure what they'll choose next.

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Let me quote what Ollila said couple of days ago again.
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People are way out if they think Nokia just suddenly makes decision to go for Android/WP7 and in 12 months time here we have Nokia WP7/Android phone.

Nokia got hardware platform projects with Qualcomm, ST-Ericsson, Broadcom and TI for next year alone and probably many that we don't know anything about for MeeGo and Symbian. Not to even talk about the Nokia's software side that's working on Qt and Symbian, MeeGo. Probably nice amount of services and apps that Nokia and it's partners are middle of making for the all Qt platforms(MeeGo and S^4).

Nokia have spent huge amount of time and cash for Qt, Symbian, MeeGo and are still hiring more people example for MeeGo. It's not something that will stop overnight or in a 2 years time. Thought i agree that everything is possible and if it all goes horribly wrong for Nokia in 2-3 years time who knows where what OS they will have in future.

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Perhaps our man in Mountain View...



Who as a member of this organization is the only one I would be concerned about. :)

These other two are at the top of the food chain and who knows? We may see them both attached to new start up, picked up by another manufacturer (cough, /\/\otorola; cough, cough), or retired together on Broke Back Mountain or suttin'.

qgil on the other hand walks the walk like the rest of us and may/is caught up in this soap opera...

Didn't he just uproot his family yet again to be closer to the "Market"?

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Me (Anssi) Go indeed.

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Oh Fck. Just watched video. This guy really understands the power of communities and open source :| and now he is leaving.

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Well, I would be much more concerned if Quim Gil or Ari Jaaksi resigned. Fortunately, they will (hopefully) stay in their positions or perhaps they'll get promoted.

Nokia won't ever go for Android, because they don't want to sell their souls to Google.
For the same reason they also won't go with Windows Phone.

The good relationship with Microsoft will probably mean Office applications for MeeGo or Bing as the default search engine or something like this. Fusion between the two? Ridiculous!

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They don't have to put an ex-Microsoft guy at the company to switch to WP7. They could do it any time, as they could have changed to Android or whatever.

Nokia _owns_ Symbian and Trolltech (Qt), and has its role in MeeGo. It would be silly to drop all that to move towards Windows. It would be easier to start another company from scratch. And for the stockholders, it would be better just to sell what they have and buy from another company. Nokia has walked a long way to give up now, and whoever is still on the ship is certainly looking at what they have to continue the journey, what they can do with what they have.

Even if they do release Windows Phone 7 devices, I don't see why they might not keep the cheaper Symbian^3 ones, and even MeeGo phones and devices... If you think about it, they already have a Widnows 7 device, the Nokia 3G Netbook. So Nokia today sells Symbian S40 devices, Simbian^1 devices, Maemo and Windows 7, and have a Symbian^3 one on the way. There is no reason they should now drop all that to release a single big Windows Phone 7 device. If they do release one, it will be just one more device.

And by the way... I bet they didn't voice support for WP7 in the interviews either, did they? Does that mean it's not going to be adopted too?

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Nokia released Symbian to an open source foundation, and even though they bought Trolltech for Qt, they are moving to open governance for it.