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ralphb 2010-09-16 13:44
N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
So, the touchscreen functionality on your N810 has broken, but you'd still like to try and use the thing until the replacement main flex arrives. But then you discover that there don't seem to be any keyboard shortcuts to reach the task launcher, or control panel, or much else. You cant believe it, so you post about it on talk.maemo.org and the clever people there suggest ... ?

Matan 2010-09-16 17:26
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
I don't have my N810 now, so I can only give you general advice: It is possible to set some keyboard shortcut to open the application menu. If you have ssh server installed, you can set it up, so you can start applications.

Start looking for details here:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/maemo-users/msg08758.html

ralphb 2010-09-16 18:50
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matan (Post 818077)
I don't have my N810 now, so I can only give you general advice: It is possible to set some keyboard shortcut to open the application menu. If you have ssh server installed, you can set it up, so you can start applications.
Trouble is, you can't install the ssh server without a BT keyboard running first, and you can't activate that without access to the control panel ... :(

But thanks anyway for the suggestion.

silvermountain 2010-09-16 19:40
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
If you have telescope running it allows you to define actions that certain key-combinations will execute for you. See the Telescope thread for more details.

And Telescope would also get you to your application menu - and execute any program there using just the h/w keys on the side of your tablet.

ralphb 2010-09-16 21:46
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvermountain (Post 818228)
If you have telescope running it allows you to define actions that certain key-combinations will execute for you. See the Telescope thread for more details.

And Telescope would also get you to your application menu - and execute any program there using just the h/w keys on the side of your tablet.
Oh I have Telescope installed, but since the Telescope thread is approximately infinitely long, could you maybe what key combination will get me to the application menu?

cstryon 2010-09-16 21:52
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Hit the home button twice to get into the application menu if you have telescope installed

silvermountain 2010-09-16 22:25
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstryon (Post 818377)
Hit the home button twice to get into the application menu if you have telescope installed
And then move around within those applications using escape.

linuxeventually 2010-09-16 22:47
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
What I do is the following:
(this assumes you have the Internet search widget enabled)
1.) press the right arrow key
a flashing text cursor is shown
2.) type anything and enter
MicroB pops up
if it didn't autoconnect to a saved network already then it will ask to connect to a wifi network. Connect or cancel (use left and right arrows and enter)
3.) press the home button (two squares)
the quick taskbar will pop-up.
4.) press left arrow key
the taskbar icon will be selected
5.) press up arrow key twice to select Applications menu
6.) right arrow key, now open something like terminal.
7.) to open another application simply repeat steps 3-6.
8.) ctrl+q to close a window


Alternatively if you didn't leave the search widget enabled you can try the following:
Requires:
* wired keyboard (or a wireless one that has a usb dongle; non-bt dongle)
* USB OTG adapter

Plug the OTG adapter into the N810. Plug the keyboard (or dongle) into the adapter. Press Alt+Tab to reach the quick taskbar menu and follow steps 4-6.

Now would be a good time to install openssh-server (from terminal with apt-get install), VNC server, fanoush's bootmenu w/ emergency ssh boot enabled.

ralphb 2010-09-17 07:01
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstryon (Post 818377)
Hit the home button twice to get into the application menu if you have telescope installed
Nope. Pressing the home button twice on my freshly booted N810 just has me staring at the home screen. No application menu access.

ralphb 2010-09-17 07:03
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvermountain (Post 818397)
And then move around within those applications using escape.
Nope. The pressing the escape key after 2x the home key still has me staring at the home screen. No application menu access.

ralphb 2010-09-17 07:12
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by linuxeventually (Post 818421)
What I do is the following:
(this assumes you have the Internet search widget enabled)
1.) press the right arrow key
a flashing text cursor is shown
2.) type anything and enter
MicroB pops up
if it didn't autoconnect to a saved network already then it will ask to connect to a wifi network. Connect or cancel (use left and right arrows and enter)
3.) press the home button (two squares)
the quick taskbar will pop-up.
Nope. The browser shrinks to telescoped view. No quick taskbar pop-up.

If I do a longer press on the home key I get the home screen displayed. Still no access to the application menu.

Quote:
Originally Posted by linuxeventually (Post 818421)
4.) press left arrow key
the taskbar icon will be selected
5.) press up arrow key twice to select Applications menu
6.) right arrow key, now open something like terminal.
7.) to open another application simply repeat steps 3-6.
8.) ctrl+q to close a window
Possibly something like this will work, but I can get access to anything apart from the desktop widgets and the main home page menu. Not the application menu.


Quote:
Originally Posted by linuxeventually (Post 818421)
Alternatively if you didn't leave the search widget enabled you can try the following:
Requires:
* wired keyboard (or a wireless one that has a usb dongle; non-bt dongle)
* USB OTG adapter
What is this USB OTG adapter? Is it just a F/F USB adapter or is there more to it than that?

silvermountain 2010-09-17 07:19
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphb (Post 818658)
Nope. The pressing the escape key after 2x the home key still has me staring at the home screen. No application menu access.
My bad, the escape key moves you around the open apps - not apps within a category. Come to think of it...that might be a nice addition to the program though.

If you're able to SSH into your N810 and can change the telescope file for short-keys you should be able to map, say, space to launch Control Panel (or any other app).

There's some good info on how to map keys to actions on this page:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50689&page=14

skinny 2010-09-17 07:36
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Unless I've misunderstood the problem: from the home screen, you can press the 'menu' key to bring up the drop-down menu at the top, then select 'help' (or maybe something else), then press the 'task switcher key' to bring up the task switcher, then press 'left' and you should see a highlight appear in the left-hand column of icons (the bit that contains icons for running apps and menus). You can then use the dpad and 'enter' to navigate those icons/menus.

HTH

ralphb 2010-09-17 07:45
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skinny (Post 818670)
Unless I've misunderstood the problem: from the home screen, you can press the 'menu' key to bring up the drop-down menu at the top, then select 'help' (or maybe something else), then press the 'task switcher key' to bring up the task switcher,
Nope, I get the shrunken telescoped view of my open apps. Maybe your further advice would work if I wasn't using Telescope. :(

silvermountain 2010-09-17 07:51
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphb (Post 818675)
Nope, I get the shrunken telescoped view of my open apps. Maybe your further advice would work if I wasn't using Telescope. :(
Mitrandir is in the Telescope thread right now...maybe post a question there :)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58691&page=18

skinny 2010-09-17 11:37
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphb (Post 818675)
Nope, I get the shrunken telescoped view of my open apps. Maybe your further advice would work if I wasn't using Telescope. :(
Ah I see... yeah I'm not running telescope.... soz!

linuxeventually 2010-09-18 00:29
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Reflash, remove telescope, it's meant for a touchscreen and in fact in the build I tried (which was admittingly quite a few revisions back, I could highlight-select a window but not actually switch to it with the keyboard).

This is the OTG adapter.
here &
here

You can make one but at $8 $5 on ebay and good construction it's not the worth the time. I use it with my usb keyboard, with my usb=>ethernet adapter, wifi adapter (monitor mode; requires separate power source), and usb flash drives. Host mode is what we get to throw in the faces of N900 owners (;

ralphb 2010-09-20 08:25
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by linuxeventually (Post 819404)
Reflash, remove telescope, it's meant for a touchscreen and in fact in the build I tried (which was admittingly quite a few revisions back, I could highlight-select a window but not actually switch to it with the keyboard).
Thankfully, my touchscreen functionality has (intermittently) returned, so I was able to install usbcontrol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by linuxeventually (Post 819404)
You can make one but at $8 $5 on ebay and good construction it's not the worth the time. I use it with my usb keyboard, with my usb=>ethernet adapter, wifi adapter (monitor mode; requires separate power source), and usb flash drives. Host mode is what we get to throw in the faces of N900 owners (;
Ordered one. Thanks for the pointer.

ralphb 2010-09-20 08:27
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
Just out of interest, how many N810 users here are struggling on without touchscreen functionality? How many have had touchscreen functionality fail and successfully replaced the main flex cable that causes it?

linuxeventually 2010-09-21 05:28
Re: N810 Keyboard Shortcuts
 
In an attempt to fix the touchscreen I ended up severing the ribbon cable that goes from the LCD to the main assembly ribbon cable. Now the LCD of course is non-functional. -_-


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