volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

i guess, it's not the first time, someone asks about taht, but i didn't find any thread.

so, i got used to a lot of ... questionable usabilty decision on nokia's part, but a while ago i learned, that the volume control buttons switch function depending on turning control -- what usually decreases volume will now increase and vice versa, simply depending on the angle you hlod it.

apparently one of the resident geniusses at nokia thought it would be a good idea to leave the user in doubt what the volume control actually will do ...

anyway, simple question: is there a way to disable this stupid behaviour? i expect the volume control to work the same way independent of the way i hold the phone.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

it makes sence in my eyes that depending on which way you hold the phone depends on which way the volume keys work?

imo. hold it landscape has the normal effect
holding it verticly pressing up makes it go up!!!

simples.........

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

why would you want the volume keys upside down in portrait mode? portrait mode is intended for one hand operation and thus, +/- is mapped to up/down.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

so, you think it makes sense, that the button you learned to decrease volume suddenly increases? probably you think it wil be ok, if your car's accelerator and brake switch while driving through hills?

i hold the phone to my ear and button A increases vol -- now, i slightly tilt the phone and, swoop, button A decreases. so, when i want to change the volume, i have to look first, in what position the phone is?

and btw: the question was not, if anyone thinks it makes sense, but how to get rid of it.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

Well, usually for people who read left-right I think it's intuitive that left is less and right is more..

Likewise I'd think it's intutive that up turns volume up and down turns volume down..

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

IIRC this was reported as bug to bugzilla and then it was changed to current behavior :D

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

well to me that makes perfect sence
but im no idiot?

if you have to look to see how your holding your phone.
.............no comment lofl

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

I reported this long ago, and it was marked as wontfix. I use phone in portrait only now to get around this behaviour.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5897

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

Why would you think its a bug????????

if the screen auto rotates when you turn the phone from landscape to portrait is that a bug?? NO. it makes perfect sense that the volume keys would follow suite? or am i missing something?

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

it doesn't make sense but landscape mode have always had - / + -arrangement in maemo devices. probably no-one thought about that when going partly portrait.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

I was tempted to report it as a usability bug as well. Call it user error, whatever, but I've used the wrong button almost as much as I've used the right one.

Sure, it makes sense to see it as: portrait up/down, landscape right/left, but in practice I'm not necessarily looking at the phone to know which way is back / front or left / right or even if I am at a definitive position portrait / landscape. There's a lot of grey geometry in between the two absolutes.

If I had the option to configure them to always be mapped to the same keys, I'd use it. But life goes on regardless :)

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

they obviosly did think about it! and im glad they did. otherwise whilst in portrait we would all be muting our handsets instead of increasing the vol!!

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

Its not a matter of which way your holding your phone, its a matter of which mode (landscape or portrait) that the phone has decided to stay in whilst your on the phone.

I have often answered it while it was ringing in landscape and then lifted it to my ear where the phone physically is portrait but the software doesnt change it to portrait as the screen is off (not sure why the reason is) so then im pressing the up button to turn the volume up and its turning it down.

Damn annoying, as if the phone worked it properly I'd be happy with this feature. I agree that the buttons should switch for which way the phone is - it makes more sense. For now though, I have put the phone settings on portrait only to save this problem.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

Yes to me also it makes perfect sense. Actually currently I´m using phone app in always landscape mode and almost every-time I try to turn volume up in the middle of conversation I manage to mute it because to me it seems to be natural that when talking the upper key should make phone louder. So the behavior what Nokia has forced on by default is good for me and probably statistically good for major of people. Sadly i´m using phone only in landscape so volume control stays same.

But to make everyone happy this should be configurable option in phone apps settings.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

Try this:
1. Set phone to 'automatic orientation'
2. Put phone in landscape mode, and mute volume by pressing the left side of the volume rocker.
3. hold the right side of the volume rocker to increase volume, while at the same time turning the phone to portrait.

You will see volume go up, until the phone is in portrait, and then it will go back to mute.

There should be more configuration control of the volume control while in phone app, IMO.

Re: volume buttons keep changing with turning control
 

guys i dont get it? sorry. imo there is no problem.