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Nokia Eyeing Windows Phone For US Comeback

Reports suggest that Nokia's new CEO has been given the power to change the company's OS strategy, and is already considering Microsoft's Windows Phone platform.

According to sources cited by VentureBeat as "familiar with these matters," Nokia is likely to add Windows Phone 7 to its list of supported platforms. Even more important than that, Nokia's new CEO, Stephen Elop, has been granted the authority to make sweeping changes by Nokia's board of directors, including decisions about its operating system strategy. Just how likely is this?

Source: InformationWeek.com

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I don't know about this, but I feel these are some serious speculations going on here. Maybe even speculations with some financial motives behind (producing buzz in order to apply pressure on Nokia's new CEO to introduce a new operation system on Nokia phones).

Fishy...

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It sounds like a wet dream being experienced by US analysts who can't see anything but Google, Microsoft, and Apple. I'm sure Microsoft would love it if Nokia ceded all control over services delivered to their customers, but I suspect Nokia wouldn't.

WP7 is simply wanna-be-Apple garbage, with MS showing what its fetish for DRM looks like when given a shiny exterior.

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If that's love, it's the S&M kind...

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not going to happen, do you think some one who as been in the job 3 days can change a whole stratedgy without even taking his ideas to the board of directors? the answer is no
i think the tech site writers need to get educations before trying to be journalists

engadget are spot on with this rumour and i'm starting to like there impartiality recently with less biased stuff and less hate towards nokia

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For once (well, its not that common anyway) Engadget are spot-on about this matter.

There's no logic behind introducing a Nokia phone with WP7, when Nokia has a crystal clear operation systems hierarchy, with Symbian^3 and 4 on the low to mid ranges, and MeeGo on the high range.

There's no place there for a WP7-based smartphone - simple as that.

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Damn you people even quoting these! :D
I'll just quote the post i made in MR forums about this same topic.

Android, WP7, IOS(!) wont be seeing light of day inside Nokia phones for over 2 years no matter what.
Really, Nokia have made agreements with likes of Qualcomm, TI, Broadcom etc. to make chips for Symbian and MeeGo 2 years ago that we will just start seeing.
New qt based services meant for MeeGo and S^4 must be nearing the end, Nokia have hired and still is hiring people to work around Symbian, Qt and MeeGo, plus lots of b2b agreements we have no idea about made behind the closed doors.

You never know how will things look in 2 years time and what if WP7 would actually make sense then so i wont say this all wouldn't ever happen, but for now there's no way imo.

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The video of wp7 compared with iphone4 showed something new and funny.

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I want to see Nokia succeed and I fear they've waited too long. So the next updatea are going to have to knock my pants and socks off. I love the idea of democritizing the mobile phone (device!) so I will support them so long as I can.

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I like my Nokia phones becuase they are not a Microsoft OS. If they make that kind of decision I will be very disappointed. If they want innovation they don't want a Microsoft OS.

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Wow! Talk about pissing your pants to stay warm, eh?

Nokia directing resources toward WinMo7 would be like pissing on your family instead of paying the dang heating bill. :D

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Nah, that might be appropriate if Nokia were to use Android. But

strapping yourself on the rails in front of a runaway train.

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Wow. This rumor made even me cringe.

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It's no rumor, just got off the phone with a friend who works for a marketing company that works very closely with Nokia, and apparently this past week Nokia and Microsoft have been having hush hush meetings concerning bringing WP7 to a Nokia phone...3 os's on Nokias is going to be strange indeed.

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It's pretty much an indicator that buying a Meego handset from Nokia is going be a bad decision. And at this point I don't think there are any manufacturers making a Meego handset device.

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STFU already. My sisters husbands boyfried said... Some hush hush meeting that third party marketing companies know all about. You shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a computer.

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C'mon how can you not trust this guy?

http://ilovemyjacket.com/wp-content/...ris-phone1.jpg

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Don't worry, 6 months after its release Nokia will announce that they will be bringing MeeGo and WP7 together into an epic cluster****.

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:D :D

Best post ever.

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I heard that Google were going to move Android onto a Meego Core;)

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If the arcade gaming part of WP7 was highly linked to XBOX it would be interesting to get a WP7 phone. But so far the integration is kinda meh to me.

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Yea? and I've heard that Apple is switching from iOS on the next iPhone to DOS 3.11...
No need for graphic accelerators anymore, just add "smartdrv.exe" to your autoexec.bat - Steve is re-inventing the retro phone.

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Lol at the Zack Morris pic, but look at my entire post history please and see that I love Nokia and this community moreso than any other mobile hardware and os that has ever been out. All I say is this, do not be surprised when Nokia drops a win phone in the us smartphone market in the next year. I am not going to doubt my friend. Dont matter Im still rolling with MeeGo either way, but if I had to put money on it, Win on Nokia is gonna happen.

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Even MS don't care about their home turf. winmo7 only does GSM at the moment.

Not the imaginary kind I hope ;)

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Lol at that lame attempt at a snarky joke. Look at my post history bro, I have zero reason to fabricate.

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My daughters friend's dad's uncle works for a company who does work for a guy whose sisters friends husband knows someone who owns a papershop where a guy who cleans the toilets at nokia.......

come on!

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maybe windows wants to get meego running and their "os" (read:customization) to win7 phones?

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Lets be honst, Nokia are desparate to get back onto the world stage, if the board have given the guy permission then it just shows they are desparate. WP7 is being touted and more importantly being developed by someone else and Nokia are struggling to shift anything that catches the headlines like iphone and Android. They are also struggling with their own in house development and have been for a while. N8 was held back, Maemo is dead (From their point of view) Meego far from ready, their last few phones had serious issues and didn't sell, making bad headlines (N97 & mini) And Symbian 4 is where?

Everyone touts Meego as being their jesus OS, yet despite the people on this forum it hasn't survived the wild yet, it has survived a few techies and nerds, plenty of fanbois and little else. And it will have to have the same birth as Maemo, which means simple errors, badly thought out screens and miss most of the useful features for a few months.

So an American joins Nokia and he probably will be looking to shift more high end units. It is probably true he is thinking about it and it would make good business sense to discuss the options at least. But I also think Meego won't last the year because of the overheads of supporting a minority platform for as long as it takes to pick up support from Apple and Android developers. So short term WP7 will be the way forward as MS will do anything to get a high end phone maker on side because it has to claw back from Android.

Winmo was awful and bloated, but I prefer it for reliability and work because Maemo is pants. So maybe they want to push WP7 towards the business market, so they can grab land from RIM and blackberries and hope Meego can make gains into Android. Will be interesting to see.

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Um, a phone based on Silverlight which requires minmum 1GHz to work is not bloated? WinMo was at least native.

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I hate to say I told you so, but...well I tried to tell you...

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...154#post815154

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Come on don't play with my feelings here. I'd love a Windows option.

Yes, yes, tar, feathers, pitchforks. I know. :)

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And if the Nokia's board didn't? then this whole argument of yours collapses. Don't expect too much when you base your argument on such an un-solid 'fact'...

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or what about enabling qt @winmo7? that probably would hurt android pretty badly if nokia&ms put their wallet behind serious software development that can be ported to both oses....

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I don't see MS enabling non-MS APIs or solutions by themselves, and as far as I know they've never done this before so why start now?

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do they need to? all they need to do is to have some logic between the apis, then a propietary piece of software should be able to patch the code and recompile from winmo7 to meego and vice versa? and if some functionality is restricted in winmo7, then it simply is restricted and not used.

yes I know this is a long shot but with the amount of information available, it is as good guess as any idea mentioned....

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And using Windows will help them how? Go out with a bang?

And that someone else is MS, distinguished purveyors
of expensive crap.

Well it's stable. Been using it for about 4 months now, have extras-testing and extras-devel enabled (and using apps from them) - only had to forcibly reset the N900 once - that was when I was copying a bunch of stuff from SD card onto the internal memory and I thought it had locked up.

So abandon the platform that, despite its shortcomings, is still the market leader and choose the platform with the lowest and declining market (and mind) share? Which business school did you go to? I hope Elop didn't go to the same one :)

Windows, reliability - pick one.

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What we have here is that same dilemma Vanjoki mentioned when speaking about Android and peeing your pants for warmth. It's not really that important for Nokia to have huge media coverage about some new platform by any means possible. More important for them is to have clear strategy on software and platforms, which they do have now. It really couldn't get more straightforward: It is S40 for low end, Symbian for middle class and MeeGo for high end, Symbian and MeeGo bound together with Qt. Yes, there was a delay on N8 but afterall they started shipping them today, as promised. Yes, Meego is in hindsight, but it's not mature enough to be published at large for now. However, if Nokia needed the publicity suggested for Windows Phone 7 to close the gap between N8 and future MeeGo device, only to create some buzz on american market, they are late. It is simply impossible to develop, refine and publish new device on new operating system, integrate it to Ovi services and push it to the customers in three months.

Even if it succeeded, what good would it make? IMO, nothing. Absolutely nothing. Blogoshpere would be touting their idea of outsourcing all software development as sensible choice, but with MeeGo being just around the corner (Q1/2011, certainly not later than Q2), it would take too much attention away from launch of new product. It would make an utter disaster from marketing point of view. Even if that happened, what would they do with Windows Phone 7? How would they position it? To enterprise? They have Symbian already, with very good management and integration to services. To high end multimedia and mobile computing? There's MeeGo - they cannot adopt Windows Phone 7 without killing MeeGo. That would be very bad thing for their credibility because it would be seen as complete inability to stick to strategy and act in predictable way.

Basically, all Nokia can do right now is to execute their strategy as fast and good as possible. Any other option will only be a burden in the long run. If MeeGo is a failure, then there might be room for Windows, but we don't know it until N9 actually ships.

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I'm not sure it bothers me because because I am part of the Windows community or because I'm part of a Linux community.

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Another interesting article,

http://blogs.gartner.com/nick_jones/...meego-for-wp7/