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chase15 2010-09-28 00:10

N9 is comng soon??
 
Nokia just published this new video and it is more likely about "mobile computing.. and is it possibly the n900 successor, the n9, will be announced soon??.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUSFy_sWoo

xtian 2010-09-28 00:31

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I think it's more on promoting their NSeries. Like the N8, it doesn't have the typical 1 GHZ processor that most phones are coming out nowadays. They want to show that you can do so much more with their phones.

ceroberts75 2010-09-28 00:32

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hmmm...dunno.

different kind of ad though.


they sure do think different on the other side of the pond.

Snoshrk 2010-09-28 00:43

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hope hope this bodes well for an N9 release....

&

I especially liked the youtube suggested Leaked Droid X AD (1984 / Mac Ad parody)

matthew maude 2010-09-28 01:08

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the mobile computing part suggests the next in line from the N900 but seen as its only a teaser, it means nothing really.
the "N9" needs to be rebranded as well cos it seems silly having 3 different OS all branded as "N" series - and it needs a 2.5Ghz dualcore processor (2Ghz/500Mhz) with 8mp 1080p camera with xenon flash and a matching multitouch resistive screen. and a hw keyboard with an added joy stick that comes out/retracts when you open/close its 4" screen which just happens to sit up like the N97's did :-D

mikecomputing 2010-09-28 01:28

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I dont think nokia will release a meego phone this year just announce it hopefully at the meego conference...

but I dont hold my breath anymore...

just silence and I begin to think meego is halfdead project already. And another thing I noticed in media today readed that Intel had plans for "googletv" dont know mush about that project but that sounds alot android warning too me.

A little bit offtopic but the swedish mobile cmpany Sony Ericsson just dished symbian and plans to use android and winmobile in future mobiles.

Ofcourse I prefer Linux and meego+QT and new QT sdk looks very promising both on symbian and meego. But if only nokia will use S^4/Meego it I begin too think it really is dead end...

I really hope I am wrong but it need to happening something big now from nokia.

E7 looks promising as a bussines phone but N8 just looks like a bigjoke to mee.

time to release a meego killercomputerphone NOW else the project wiil die.

please dont take this as whining or trolling cause the truth is I like N900 and Maemo/meego but still...

wmarone 2010-09-28 01:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 827950)
just silence and I begin to think meego is halfdead project already.

Well spreading fear and the like is a good way to pre-emptively kill a project.

Quote:

time to release a meego killercomputerphone NOW else the project wiil die.
Now now now! Everything has to happen right now, this quarter! The future doesn't matter!

It's attitudes like that which will screw you long term. Like everyone saying Nokia should give up and use Android or Windows Phone. Sure, they could do it. And in the long term they'll be easily replaced and have nothing going for them. This issue will likely become an issue for HTC, Samsung and Motorola in their relationship with Google, I suspect.

This project isn't bound to the success or failure of Nokia's smartphone, I assure you. And personally, if it didn't take off I wouldn't be rushing to support any other mobile OS, most of which are a greater antithesis to the concept of being "Open" and "Free" than Android ever was.

3beers 2010-09-28 01:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 827950)
But if only nokia will use S^4/Meego it I begin too think it really is dead end...


I don't think it's such a bad idea if only nokia will use meego as a phone os. this way will not have fragmentation.
intel is going in as many way as possible . they are interested in selling hardware, not making money from software. they also invested a lot in meego so I don't think they'll quit the project.

patlak 2010-09-28 02:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 827950)
E7 looks promising as a bussines phone but N8 just looks like a bigjoke to mee.

No..........obviously there is no reason to call you a troll, especially after we finally get a well worthy replacement to the N82. A 12 mpx camera with the largest sensor in a phone, larger than most P&S cameras, with a xenon flash, dual mics for stereo audio capture during 720p recording. Really, I agree with you 100%. It certainly is a big joke.

HINT: Reread the quote multiple times and look up the meaning of a troll.

ScottishDuck 2010-09-28 02:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 827966)
No..........obviously there is no reason to call you a troll, especially after we finally get a well worthy replacement to the N82. A 12 mpx camera with the largest sensor in a phone, larger than most P&S cameras, with a xenon flash, dual mics for stereo audio capture during 720p recording. Really, I agree with you 100%. It certainly is a big joke.

HINT: Reread the quote multiple times and look up the meaning of a troll.

Great now I can use all those great features on a good OS. Wait, no, I can't.

tirtawn 2010-09-28 02:24

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the ads just a little bit weird when the the guy try to take photo. at the point, my connection to youtube was stuck, so I end up with a guy with a bloated eye....blahhh...

ysss 2010-09-28 03:36

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Both Microsoft and Nokia change their message 180' to the tune of 'specs don't matter, it's what they do that matter'... I wonder why? ;)

mmurfin87 2010-09-28 03:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 827908)
Nokia just published this new video and it is more likely about "mobile computing.. and is it possibly the n900 successor, the n9, will be announced soon??.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUSFy_sWoo

That ad epitomizes everything wrong that happens at Nokia and why they are in the position they're in.

Sopwith 2010-09-28 03:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 828019)
Both Microsoft and Nokia change their message 180' to the tune of 'specs don't matter, it's what they do that matter'... I wonder why? ;)

Microsoft and specs? I don't follow... are you referring to any particular example?

wmarone 2010-09-28 03:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 828021)
That ad epitomizes everything wrong that happens at Nokia and why they are in the position they're in.

How, exactly?

Oh I know, they shouldn't emphasize creation and doing things, instead they should play more to the lowest common denominator of blind consumerism and "style over substance!"

Nokia is overestimating the intelligence of most people? Is that what you're saying?

Sopwith 2010-09-28 03:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 827923)
hmmm...dunno.

different kind of ad though.


they sure do think different on the other side of the pond.

I find it quite similar to the Android ads. Human body compared to the machine, body parts changing...

I don't care about their marketing. They are painfully slow in delivering the ready product.

ysss 2010-09-28 04:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 828026)
Microsoft and specs? I don't follow... are you referring to any particular example?

Oops, must've been thinking of their OEMs ;)

patlak 2010-09-28 04:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 827972)
Great now I can use all those great features on a good OS. Wait, no, I can't.

And Symbian is a bad OS how??? Does it lack.........what shall I call it..........MAKEUP?
It has a fast growing app store including new 3D accelerated games by which most people seem to judge an OS on. Symbian is capable of playing all types of codecs without the need of an app. Qt cross platform framework makes it future proof. Most optimized mobile OS......OPEN SOURCE........the phone that carries it is the most feature rich phone available..........hmmmm

longcat 2010-09-28 06:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 828047)
And Symbian is a bad OS how??? Does it lack.........what shall I call it..........MAKEUP?
It has a fast growing app store including new 3D accelerated games by which most people seem to judge an OS on. Symbian is capable of playing all types of codecs without the need of an app. Qt cross platform framework makes it future proof. Most optimized mobile OS......OPEN SOURCE........the phone that carries it is the most feature rich phone available..........hmmmm

Symbian sucks because it's not iOS, nokia sucks because it won't adopt android... I can go further, but these are the key points of average consumer's point of view. Former two (Apple and Google) are popular just because of US mainstream media which promotes them to the stars...

ossipena 2010-09-28 07:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 827972)
Great now I can use all those great features on a good OS. Wait, no, I can't.

yeah, you might accidentally multitask and it is really bad thing....

efekt 2010-09-28 07:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 827972)
Great now I can use all those great features on a good OS. Wait, no, I can't.

Man you're lucky! you probably had so much time messing with Symbian^3 that you can certainly write this and be sure its true... For how long do you own a Symbian^3 phone?
Ah, you probably don't have one, becuase it wasn't released yet. Well thats funny, you see - I myself don't tend to rank something before I even try it, but I guess you're something special, ain't ya? :rolleyes:

digital909 2010-09-28 08:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 827923)
hmmm...dunno.

different kind of ad though.


they sure do think different on the other side of the pond.

I agree. I like the Nokia ads, the one for the N8 (girl in forest) is a bit random but sweet.

However, Nokia are missing a ticket with the US market - I think this type of campaign just looks a bit euro-kooky in the US and doesn't really get the product noticed.

patlak 2010-09-28 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 828107)
Symbian sucks because it's not iOS, nokia sucks because it won't adopt android... I can go further, but these are the key points of average consumer's point of view. Former two (Apple and Google) are popular just because of US mainstream media which promotes them to the stars...

And the U.S. media really know their facts when comparing the competition. 5 reasons why N8 won't beat iphone 4

longcat 2010-09-28 11:54

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msnbc, the unbiased source of the (what?) century !

patlak 2010-09-28 12:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 828296)
msnbc, the unbiased source of the (what?) century !

The awful thing is that people believe it and buy a more expensive iphone without using a gram of their brain to research which is better. :(

longcat 2010-09-28 12:29

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 828315)
The awful thing is that people believe it and buy a more expensive iphone without using a gram of their brain to research which is better. :(

that's not awful, that's fun ! :D

ysss 2010-09-28 12:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 828315)
The awful thing is that people believe it and buy a more expensive iphone without using a gram of their brain to research which is better. :(

Do you really believe what you're saying in that context? :D

Sopwith 2010-09-28 12:51

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 828288)
And the U.S. media really know their facts when comparing the competition. 5 reasons why N8 won't beat iphone 4

The article you cite is rather stupid. First, I doubt that anyone expects that N8 is trying to beat iPhone 4, not even fanboys here are so delusional -- so the author's mother may have had an affair with Captain Obvious 15 years ago ;)

Second, at least some of the points are true, because N8 is not an as high-end device as iPhone 4 -- thus, lower processing power, less memory, and why forget the screen resolution?

Third, two of the arguments are idiotic -- both devices have unreplaceable battery, so why use this as an argument; saying that Symbian is worse than iOS is highly subjective and most likely flawed.

Stupid article written by a 14-year old...

patlak 2010-09-28 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 828323)
that's not awful, that's fun ! :D

Don't try to awaken that spirit, I tried to cover it :P

patlak 2010-09-28 13:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 828338)
The article you cite is rather stupid. First, I doubt that anyone expects that N8 is trying to beat iPhone 4, not even fanboys here are so delusional -- so the author's mother may have had an affair with Captain Obvious 15 years ago ;)

Second, at least some of the points are true, because N8 is not an as high-end device as iPhone 4 -- thus, lower processing power, less memory, and why forget the screen resolution?

Third, two of the arguments are idiotic -- both devices have unreplaceable battery, so why use this as an argument; saying that Symbian is worse than iOS is highly subjective and most likely flawed.

Stupid article written by a 14-year old...

Well you didn't have to analyze the article yourself since someone already did quite thoroughly :)

Analysis by someone older than 14

Processing power seems higher on N8 :D

tissot 2010-09-28 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 827908)
Nokia just published this new video and it is more likely about "mobile computing.. and is it possibly the n900 successor, the n9, will be announced soon??.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUSFy_sWoo

It's just a N series ad. Those who are using "mobile computer" as proof of it being N9 just remember that Nokia have been using that slogan for Symbian phones as well for ages.

leviathan18 2010-09-28 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 828338)
The article you cite is rather stupid. First, I doubt that anyone expects that N8 is trying to beat iPhone 4, not even fanboys here are so delusional -- so the author's mother may have had an affair with Captain Obvious 15 years ago ;)

Second, at least some of the points are true, because N8 is not an as high-end device as iPhone 4 -- thus, lower processing power, less memory, and why forget the screen resolution?

Third, two of the arguments are idiotic -- both devices have unreplaceable battery, so why use this as an argument; saying that Symbian is worse than iOS is highly subjective and most likely flawed.

Stupid article written by a 14-year old...

afaik the n8 battery is user replaceable you just need a screwdriver

riahc3 2010-09-28 23:41

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We wont hear anything about the N9 soon until (wow I forgot what it was called but I think it is....) Meamo World that is in November.

sjgadsby 2010-09-29 00:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 828351)
It's just a N series ad. Those who are using "mobile computer" as proof of it being N9 just remember that Nokia have been using that slogan for Symbian phones as well for ages.

Yes, and an ad promoting "fluent in Java" would be odd introduction to a Maemo MeeGo device.

bsving 2010-09-29 00:28

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 828819)
Yes, and an ad promoting "fluent in Java" would be odd introduction to a Maemo MeeGo device.

Yes, and that is in fact odd. A "mobile computer" must have Java out of the box, or at least installable by a simple click. I have a feeling that the MeeGo UX on the N9 will be surprisingly different than a "stock" MeeGo UX.

sjgadsby 2010-09-29 00:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bsving (Post 828829)
Yes, and that is in fact odd. A "mobile computer" must have Java out of the box, or at least installable by a simple click.

I don't anticipate Nokia will be providing Java support on the MeeGo-Harmattan device. It would be up to a third party to make it available.

RAZOR 2010-09-29 03:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 827950)
E7 looks promising as a bussines phone but N8 just looks like a bigjoke to mee.

Are you for real? N8 looks like a joke? Have you even used one?

Name one phone that has 12mp camera, Xenon flash, 720p recording, HDMI, USB-OTG, Digital dolby plus, Bluetooth 3.0, Wifi n and one of the most powerful GPU around with all the usual Nokia goodies packed in a anodized aluminium body only for 370 euros? Name one?

.. or you just made yourself look like a joke.

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-09-29 07:32

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so can we say that, Maemo will be improve for the N900?

TheBootroo 2010-09-29 13:19

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i really hope seeing some new N9 leaks soon, instead of wrong info or very old leak....

tissot 2010-09-29 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBootroo (Post 829251)
i really hope seeing some new N9 leaks soon, instead of wrong info or very old leak....

I would rather take the announcement of it that was promised to be before end of this year by Vanjoki in Nokia World.


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