Meego 1.1 RC?
 

I was checking around on the meego webpage and check what I found:

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1...t-armv7l-n900/

Acording to this:

http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1

It's the first release candidate for meego 1.1 :)

It's weird though as I tryied last week builds and it was totally *unusable*.

Just wanted to share the information ;)

Regards

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Hmmm.. Very Curious about it :D
Anyone wanna try it out? :P

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Downloading it right now ;)

I'll keep you posted.

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And let us know if it provides full functionality of the phone (make and receive phone calls, use 2G/3G, etc.)!

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Release candidate periods are for weeding out bugs and some are bigger than others (making things unusable). There's a final release at end of months.

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does it mean this is fully functional version including telephoning-capabilities?

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Yes, if you have a PIN-less SIM you can make calls. It comes out the speakers but so it goes.

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I could make and receive phone calls with the image from a week ago.

EDIT: Nevermind, beat me to it.

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Do i need a Memory Card or i can install to internal memory?
maybe dual boot something?
thanks

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You need a microsd and no, no way around it.

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For those who wanna know:

* 1.1 Schedule
* Feature Complete - 25 Aug - DONE.
* Code Freeze -
* 23 Sep - today - Bug cut-off
* 27 Sep - Monday - Critical bug cut-off
* 29 Sep - Branch 1.1. Trunk re-opens on 1.2. [Please note: PRC out 1st week of Oct]
* 28 Sept - 18 Oct - Bug-CCB period
* 18 Oct - Final critical fixes.
* 19 Oct - Final RC.
* Final Release - 27 Oct

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Tried it yesterday, useless then and it looks like this is the same version.

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It's nice! its will be a final version for the Nokia N900 Meego at the end of
months?

Please share a vidéo presentation of Meego 1.1 for N900 or pictures!

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One thing to keep in mind:

What is getting released in end of October is a platform. This platform has reference applications and such and fairly good N900 support, but it's probably not enough for most end-users.

I'd like to motivate people to take this platform and base on top of it shape it into something they'd like for their phone. Even backporting things from 1.2. Things you could do would be adding MP3 codecs, community Qt applications, etc. It's free to modify and hack and even to publish your own versions of online (some of the closed bits only if you do it on a non-commercial basis, NeoPwn, I'm looking at you).

Next version of MeeGo is in 6 months after 1.1 release and you can do exciting things early on if you organise yourself like the community SSU guys. Even kernel improvements from 1.2 can be used in 1.1 as we're not upgrading the kernel, likely.

There will be platform bug fixes coming out for 1.1 but no new features after release date.

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For example, one thing important for end users that is not supported in this release is 3G browsing...

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Once the UI exists in MeeGo 1.2 for this, it should be trivial to backport. The problem is that the UI doesn't exist for setting up APN and that junk, but is coming for sure (The Intel guys simply didn't have a working modem on their Aava device)

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No. And phone support works, but only if you like to make phone calls via speakerphone.

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And this only because we don't have a policy daemon setting up audio routing :)

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well as said it's a UI issue so I would like to assume that it still can be set to some other way like command line am I right? Could I know how?

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Since Qt is cross-platform, porting Qt apps from N900 (PR1.2) tot MeeGo shouldn't be very troublesome I think?
Apart from different system variables/standards maybe?

It's probably not that easy :p

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The term release candidate seems to have received a new meaning.

A release candidate is not an alpha or beta. It should contain the full functionality, be thought to be (almost) bug free and be subject to a code freeze where any found bugs are only fixed after decision on project meeting.

I have a hard time seeing a release without PIN-code support as a release candidate unless PIN-code is seen as a bonus feature.

On the other hand - the N900 has been living with prereleases from day one.

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It's based on Qt but all the platform apps (of handset ui) are written using libmeegotouch (which is based on Qt)

Honestly I don't know if a plain-qt app integrates that well atm into meego... I would love to be proven wrong...

I fear so... it will run but it may not look/feel fully native...

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I just gave it a try and... disapointing to say the least.

It's so damned slow it takes ages to load any app (if we can call those things apps). Half of them don't even launch and don't even think on making phone calls or browse the internet :S

Still a *LOT* of work to do!

Regards

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What class microSD do you have?

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It's like the opposite of Google's Beta. =P

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I dont get it but were is nokia atm.? I mean why isnt this already backported from Maemo5 that should be that hard :S

I could understand if there is no UI but backenddaemon should that been in place already? :-S


It is great if more people try to test Meego 1.1 on N900 cause this is VERY IMPORTANT for meego to success. But people should not expect Meego as a main OS yet cause its FAR from ready as enduser OS. But dont forget that MMC is a slower than internal so we should not blame Meego on this issues. Infact WidgetGallery is very smooth in Maemo for those who have installed the meego-widgets demos in extras-devel so thats how Meego will work to when installed on core EEMC I guess :-D (when its a ltittle more stable for endusers)

I dont know maybe there is MicroSD that is very fast so if someone could give a tip... I am using Sandisk SDHD but slow to me :-(

But to the developer start port QT apps too Meego now :-D

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Nokia's there (as witnessed by the work going into MeeGo and especially MeeGo on N900) but we figured it'd be a priority to 1) have audio into the kernel at all and 2) making phonecalls (which we got done in the last minute before feature freeze), so well, some good things remain for 1.2.

I guess it's more obvious when you look at what has been needed to be done to get where we're at at the moment, but admittedly, platform has areas it's lacking at the moment.

We've set ourselves up for running MeeGo on N900 project for a long time, so we've had to take the long way of upstreaming kernel drivers, doing things the right way instead of with duct tape.

That 1.1 isn't where I (and probably others) hoped it would be is one thing but I see a lot of work being poured into MeeGo 1.1 and even more will go into 1.2.

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just tried 1.0.90.4.20100928.1 on my n900
it works !!

dont tried phone but UX is mainly set up.
wifi works
there is autorotation (even home screen and menu and lock screen)
people, social and sms seems to work
i didnt have samples so i didtn try audio or video but album works
config panel is completing up
mostly encouraging

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I feel the same. This isn't even alpha state, it is nothing yet. How is this going to be in any sort of usable state in 3-4 weeks?

MeeGo for the N900 looks very much like vapor-ware to me. By the time it eventually will be usable, there will be no one left to use it. I mean, I have already had my N900 for a year now. I had some hope to install MeeGo on it, or that the N9 would available before christmas, but right now I don't see any of those things happening any time soon, more like a full year. I feel it's time to move on, but to what? :)

The N8 looks damn tempting and all, but with no physical keyboard. The G2, or whatever the EU version is called also looks very tempting, but Android does not. Any Bada with physical keyboard does not seem to come into existence in the near future. The E7 looks to be the one.

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I also experienced the same trying the latest Nokia codedrop image....
it is really slow because it running from the mmc but well it starts to work mostly...
the statusbar (battery indicator, ... ) still doesn't seem functional, xterm isn't working as well as power off and such stuff....

still LOTS of polishing and feature development ahead.... but we are on the right track =)
a navigation solution would be great... afaik OVI maps API is exposed via the qtmobility framework... so this should be possible...
or will we get OVI maps as soon as meego becomes really production ready?

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Class 2 card. But that's not the point: nitdroid runs slow on the same card but usable ;)

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It matters a lot when you run real Linux :) I would recommend at least class 4.

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Sorry to insist, it is possible that someone made a small video Meego 1.1 for N900? its be really nice.
Thanks.

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My card is a 4GB and say class 6. It still is unbelievably slow. When connecting to internet, the touch screen keyboard blacks out. Terminal isn't working, although I can see it when it is "minimized" running in the background. When booting it starts all black after a minute with the usual text, and take several minutes before it does anything.

I tried it a month or so ago, and it worked better back then than it does now. I have the dual boot kernel (from Nitdroid) installed, could that in any way have an effect on this? (I believe not, but my experience with MeeGo on the N900 is abysmal, not at all encouraging as some describe it).

Edit: I have to add that Nitdroid runs completely fluent from my card, so I don't believe my card is slow.

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First boot is always slow due to sreadahead picking up data and tracker indexing the sample media. But you're right, things are slower than they should be.

We suspect there's a MMC performance problem in the 2.6.35 kernel on OMAP3, not so much the distro itself.

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since it not for end user it no probem if its uber slow, right? ;)

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videos for the less adveturous would be really good.

On a side note, for anyone with the latest build, are you able to change wallpapers and/or themes if any exist?

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Yes can someone please post a video of this for the noobs?
and please dont say me, "you should" .. i would i dont know how to install it and besdies no micro sd.


Thanks

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It'll record one tomorrow night although there's no much to see anyway...

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guys... just search for "n900 meego video" there are at least 100 out there