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neurok 2010-10-08 17:31

Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
hello first time posting mostly I have just been creeping in the background I had a question regarding ovi maps on the n900. CAN the n900 physically run the updated ovi maps with turn by turn? The reason I ask is that on my facebook I commented on the nokia site that they should get some one to work on the ovi maps for n900 since it sucks and my e71 can do it and this was their response "Nokia US ‎@Jake The Maemo OS has been open source since day 1. We will be releasing another firmware update to the N900 very soon. @Jorge, the Maemo OS cannot run Turn by Turn Navigation."

festivalnut 2010-10-08 17:43

Re: ovi maps update on n900
 
sygic is turn by turn navigation. it runs on n900.
BITS of maemo are open source, not all of it.

jessi3k3 2010-10-08 17:49

Re: ovi maps update on n900
 
Can you please give a more informative thread title? The way you have it now makes it sound like there's an actual ovi maps update on the N900. Perhaps adding a question mark or posing it more as a question. Thanks!

oneFinn 2010-10-11 16:16

Re: ovi maps update on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 836596)
sygic is turn by turn navigation. it runs on n900.
BITS of maemo are open source, not all of it.

Nokia Maps suppose to support navigation as Nokia Maps does. THe issue is that Nokia has not updated Meamo version to latest version of Maps. Maemo version is badly outdated and nothing indicates that Nokia is going to provide the update. And this not about voice navigation..

It is wrong to force people to buy 3th party application to get a decent working navigation to N900 when Nokia has a very good Maps 3.x for most it's other devices.

Probably MeeGo will get it, but that has nothing to do with N900 since Meego will not be supported officially by Nokia on N900.

teh 2010-10-11 16:22

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Please search, this has been discussed many times before.

Welcome btw.

msa 2010-10-11 16:27

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
i dont see why it shouldnt. if nokia releases it, that is. but they wont, because of sygic.

all the other major nokia-devices are sold with included turn-by-turn-ovimaps nowadays... :(

casper27 2010-10-11 17:07

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Ovi Maps on the N900 does do turn by turn directions. Just not voice guided.

rooster13 2010-10-11 17:32

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 838550)
Ovi Maps on the N900 does do turn by turn directions. Just not voice guided.

Really? If it does please tell me how!

All I know that it can barely route but it wont show you any turning signs when u r supposed to take the next turn.

I could live with that if it would have instant reroute in case you miss the turn.
IMO Nokia maps on N900 has routing but not turn by turn nav. Voice or mute...

oneFinn 2010-10-11 17:36

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 838550)
Ovi Maps on the N900 does do turn by turn directions. Just not voice guided.

I wouldn't say it does turn by turn. Maemo version of Maps creates a route on the map, that's it. There is no re-route, if you don't follow the calculated route, Maps does not re-route..nor does it update the remaining distance/time. Crucial things when using navigation while driving.

It also does not allow own POIs, offline search etc.

Shortly, it's a badly crippled version of Nokia Maps (compared to current version of it available to other Nokia devices)

michou 2010-10-11 17:54

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
This is one of the lacking features in the n900 which really annoyes me. Since you can buy a Nokia symbian phone for just over a 100€ with GPS and OVI Maps with turn by turn. I knew when I got my N900 that it lacked some features, but I naively thought that Nokia would fill in those gaps with firmware updates. For a phone of this price we should have got a lot more updates from the Nokia camp. But since the announcement of Meego little effort has been put into Maemo 5.

Even my N810 tablet using Maemo 4 had voice turn by tur navigation offered though by Wayfinder. It worked great even though it lacked in features.

sjgadsby 2010-10-11 18:19

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michou (Post 838584)
Even my N810 tablet using Maemo 4 had voice turn by tur navigation offered though by Wayfinder. It worked great even though it lacked in features.

Voice and turn-by-turn navigation were for-pay add-on features of Wayfinder on N8x0 devices though. What you had bundled for free was something roughly equivalent to Ovi Maps on the N900. Subscribe to Wayfinder or buy Sygic, either way you're paying extra money for a more fully featured solution.

(And I'll just suppress my rant on the worthlessness of Wayfinder's address search.)

NokTokDaddy 2010-10-11 18:45

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
I too learnt the hard way not to put my faith in Nokia updating devices that are new-to-market. I think the advertising and promotion of N900's navigation abilities was potentially misleading;

If just about every mid-tier and upward Nokia phone has fully-functional SatNav with turn-by-turn voice instructions it is not unreasonable to expect a top-end (i.e. premium-priced, "powerful" device) to be similarly equipped.

Nokia may have had other fish to fry with Meego and N8, etc., but they really should have looked after their N900 customers better and delivered a more complete package.

After all, we are the ones most likely to invest in a Meego device...

I for one will be taking a back seat on Meego for a while. Rather than risk more of my hard-earned cash I will probably buy a second-hand X6 or E-series device as a second device for navigation - they have all had a good few firmware updates and have matured into stable, useable devices. They can all run the latest version of Ovi Maps as well - free to download for all other current Nokia devices...

Don't get me wrong - I love my N900 and there's no way I'll part with it, but you'll see Satan skating to work before I invest in the 'next new thing from Nokia'

Pigro 2010-10-11 19:09

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
I agree that Nokia hasn't lived up to user expectations for N900 maps.

However, the braver amongst you could put your collective angst to better use by installing and testing modrana from -devel repo. It already does proper turn by turn with voice guidance and custom POI's are imminent. It is pretty stable (very useable in-car) so give it a try and help make it the free mapping alternative to ovi.

NokTokDaddy 2010-10-11 19:24

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Thanks Pigro.

That's what I like about this community - after the bitterness and despair, the clear, calm voice of hope emerges.

I will give it a go!

michou 2010-10-11 23:14

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 838601)
Voice and turn-by-turn navigation were for-pay add-on features of Wayfinder on N8x0 devices though. What you had bundled for free was something roughly equivalent to Ovi Maps on the N900. Subscribe to Wayfinder or buy Sygic, either way you're paying extra money for a more fully featured solution.

(And I'll just suppress my rant on the worthlessness of Wayfinder's address search.)


That is very true, I had honestly forgotten that you had to pay for wayfinder. Even though my previous statement was flawed, in todays navigation software market I still think that Nokia should be offering N900 users a full feature itteration of OVI Maps.

Pigro 2010-10-11 23:15

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Modrana really is worth a try. It has big easy press buttons ideal for use while driving; one touch reroute (works flawlessly even when you go wildly wrong on purpose); x2 and x4 map scaling options - again, great when driving so you can see street names easily; integrated POI search/store (with custom query); voice guidance with onscreen instructions I'd already mentioned. Also fully working auto rotate and map centring around current position. Oh, and it works with downloadable tiles by default, but development is underway on storing downloaded map data to sqlite dB (much more efficient/compact disk space usage).

But best of all is the developer, who is a real good guy, always willing to fix/enhance and provide detailed feedback & help. I'm not involved with the project - just a very satisfied user who greatly appreciates MartinK's (the dev) ongoing efforts to deliver what people actually want/need. The word "proactive" has been hijacked by bullshˇt bingo, but it trully applies in this case :-)

Have a look here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58861

neurok 2010-10-11 23:29

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
while i appreciate modrana and sygic i was really ticked off that my e71 could do better but my question is how is it that according to nokia the maemo os cannot support turn by turn with voice nav... Im no programmer so when they say something like that... i cant accept it.. this is a stupid question but will the release of meego help the n900 get the new ovi maps? since all i hear is how a lot of programs are qt based and cross platform support etc.

danahyatt 2010-10-11 23:42

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
I've been getting offers of OVI Downloads since the product first release. I reply back to Nokia Marketing, everytime, that I will not upgrade to the N900 and my N810 doesn't run OVI. I will not buy another Nokia. Dissatisfied, disgruntled, and dislike Nokia.

vivmak 2010-10-13 09:22

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
I asked this question on Ovi Maps developer's blog webiste and the response :

"no silence is tolerated on this Blog :-)
But we are currently working hard on MeeGo, which you can already install on your Nokia N900 by following these instructions http://wiki.meego.com/N900"

travla 2010-10-13 09:46

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vivmak (Post 839931)
I asked this question on Ovi Maps developer's blog webiste and the response :

"no silence is tolerated on this Blog :-)
But we are currently working hard on MeeGo, which you can already install on your Nokia N900 by following these instructions http://wiki.meego.com/N900"

What a pointless response, did you follow up? MeeGo for N900 is no way near ready for consumers, it is less featured than Maemo 5 and to my knowledge has no Turn-by-Turn navigation option.

The mind baffles.....

vivmak 2010-10-13 10:00

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by travla (Post 839945)
What a pointless response, did you follow up? MeeGo for N900 is no way near ready for consumers, it is less featured than Maemo 5 and to my knowledge has no Turn-by-Turn navigation option.

The mind baffles.....

I did followup as per below and waiting for a response

1. MeeGo for n900 is available on wiki as a release? must not be be Nokia official release, am i correct?
I am not going to use my phone as test bed for your unofficial releases. You (nokia) provide me a spare phone and i will install it and use it too… like a test drive.

2. Does meego include voice and turn by turn navigation on ovi maps? if no then i would say that you are silent on this topic !

3. does it fix basic phone one screen problem, i.e. either screen remains locked or orientation on screen keeps moving?

4. many other things but lets leave it ther

cfh11 2010-10-13 14:18

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
You posted this on the ovi maps dev blog? Talk about barking up the wrong tree...

vivmak 2010-10-15 01:10

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 840098)
You posted this on the ovi maps dev blog? Talk about barking up the wrong tree...

Really? its better than barking on a tree where Nokia cares about nothing, that is this site.

travla 2010-10-17 02:33

Re: Can the n900 run turn by turn ovi maps ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vivmak (Post 839953)
I did followup as per below and waiting for a response

1. MeeGo for n900 is available on wiki as a release? must not be be Nokia official release, am i correct?
I am not going to use my phone as test bed for your unofficial releases. You (nokia) provide me a spare phone and i will install it and use it too… like a test drive.

2. Does meego include voice and turn by turn navigation on ovi maps? if no then i would say that you are silent on this topic !

3. does it fix basic phone one screen problem, i.e. either screen remains locked or orientation on screen keeps moving?

4. many other things but lets leave it ther

Hi vivmak,
Did you get a follow up response?

travla


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