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just wnat to point out there will be no pr 1.4 so qq and moan starting now so it can end sooner

kthx

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wow are you trying to reassure us? i think anyone who has an n900 and suffered from the shitty service from nokia knows that. pr1.4, we dont even know when pr1.3 is coming! nokia says soon- ********.
anyways, nokia just confirmed that there will be no dualbooting because they are busy ensuring what is best for the n900. wow what a joke.

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And here I was getting happy, for the dual booting for nothing...

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" nokia just confirmed that there will be no dualbooting because they are busy ensuring what is best for the n900. wow what a joke"

Really Nokia, why you treating us like kids?
If anything we should have the power of the n900's future because without this community, there wouldn't be a N900

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Yup! nokia never fails to disappoint. check the post on the PR update on the news section.

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So true. But i guess n900 has to die. i havent seen any post on nitdroid dev for some time now, and besides some talented developers have left the community.

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There should be a book written about the n900 its prologue, and conclusion

1.3 wont have flash 10.1 or updated ovi maps so qq moar also

kthx

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just because there's no 'official' support for dualbooting meego and/or PR1.3 maemo doesn't mean it will not be a direct possibility. meego will work on the N900 platform, and the community will make it dual bootable (read: make it easy for people who don't feel like reading or putting in the time and effort to do it themselves). look at the direct quote...

to boil it down for you: it runs on the N900. it has to, as it is the development platform for meego on ARM. it won't be officially supported and no official dual boot option will exist for one simple fact: if it is 'officially' released by Nokia, then it will have to be officially SUPPORTED by Nokia. Since this device is at its commercial 'end of life', Nokia cannot be bothered with that. That being said, this community provides excellent support for pretty much everything you need, and will provide the dual boot methods, just like it did for android... or mer... or ubuntu... Just be patient, and actually read.

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For Nitdroid you need to head over to forums.nitdroid.com (they moved things over there to makes things easier)

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Yeesh... Who here exclusively uses "officially supported" Nokia software (besides the phone) on their N900's now anyway?


If it was announced that a PR 2.0 was in the works that addressed every single dang issue ever whined about on this board it would get real quiet around here...


...for only about 2 freakin' days. :eek:

By then, someone would dream up something it doesn't do like start the coffee maker in the morning or suttin', they will start a whiny thread, and then a whole bunch of folks will feed off it until they whip themselves into a dang frenzy and wont appear to be satisfied until governments are overthrown. :rolleyes:

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Well, isn't the thing supposed to be able to make my bed in the morning, while simultaneously making me breakfast and going to work for me. SERIOUSLY NOKIA?! WTF. COME ON, I PAID $550 FOR THIS AND IT DOESN'T DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING EVER?!

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i have checked there. nothing but some recent patches made by eyes, which were awesome by the way :). But dj is working on froyo for dell streak now and for what.... is the thing i dont understand, because i heard its supposed to get an official update to froyo.
Trust me everyday i go to nitdroid forums for updated news, but nothing. no irc logs or anything.

this is the thing i dont understand- why do cant people fully utilize the n900, it is a open source phone. how can htc hd2 get full froyo working in a matter of time and we all are still struggling? i thought maemo developers were way talented than that

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you do realize the HD2 and the N900 are completely different hardware, right? Furthermore, don't these 'android on windows mobile devices' fallacies still rely on booting to windows mobile first then launching haret.exe to pseudo bootstrap android off an SD card? No thank you.

I really don't understand your logic... the N900 is an 'open sourced phone' (with several things - namely the GSM radio driver and video drivers being closed source), so it should automatically be able to do everything you can throw at it? Don't blame the maemo developers or people working on nitdroid - blame powerVR/TI for the closed video driver and Nokia for the closed battery driver.

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trolls go awayl

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I am truly sorry. i didnt mean to blame anyone. i am just frustated. i have waited almost a year for this update on my 600$ n900, which i bought when it came out. My itouch has got hd video recording on a 0.7 meg pix camera while n900's camera doesnt. All aside, the thing i really feel sorry for is that Nokia is the reason many talented developers have left the community. N900 deserves better than that
i am not too worried though cause i know even if it aint official, i will soon get dual boot. the community will come through. lets hope.

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Your iTouch is a generation newer than the N900, it has almost twice the CPU power (not counting overclocking the N900) and double the RAM, just for starters. Not exactly a fair comparison.

The N900 is more comparable to the iPhone 3GS (iTouch 3G), which you notice does NOT have 720p video recording added, they didn't even allow it to multitask without jailbreaking it. So frustrations aside, we have to be realistic.

It does annoy me that the N900 has huge oversights, I mean you can't even change the order of tracks in the media player playlist on the N900, you couldn't even delete tracks form the playlist until PR1.2 which was insane. If it takes them that long just to add basic functionality, I am expecting much from PR1.3.

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So lemme get this straight.

PR1.3 isn't out, so we get a cautionary thread to not expect PR1.4... right?

Erm... thanks. Duly noted.

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what does PR mean by the way?

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You might want to follow their twitter accounts if you want up to date news. Here's e-yes's http://twitter.com/#!/drunkdebugger

No clue on what dj_steve is doing with the Dell Streak. And it's not a matter of talent, it's a matter of userbase. The HTC HD2 has more users therefore more developers. The N900 has less users and less developers. Booting Android off other devices is not just a matter of talent, it's also influenced by the number of developers who are working on it, testing it, and submitting patches.

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Well the thing about the HD2 is: it was Microsoft's last chance to promote Windows Mobile. With HTC they made a trully great phone; hardware and software.

The thing is Windows Mobile 6 is one of the, if not the most advanced mobileOS available (sorry Maemo you're a close second). However WM6 bears its roots to a stylus entry ancestors, so even with HTC's "improvements" it is not a quite a finger-friendly device. It is true, the iPhone set a golden standard in ease of use, intuitiveness and connectivity (iTunes etc) and we've all been spoilt by it.

Android came to the rescue of OEM's who were still relying on Symbian/WindowsMobile for smartphone OS and it has slowly but definently surpassed the iOS in many-ways. Since the HD2 had killer hardware, even though it is ancient compared to the iPhone4, it has equivalent hardware and that same hardware has actually been passed unto all other HTC phones (excluding the earlier Android models).

And since that hardware is now the standard, it is still within the current-gen and is recycled on upcoming WP7 phones. So it is actually very easy to port Android/HTC Sense.com/WP7 to the HD2, talk about a long lifetime!

And this is the strength with HTC's current offerings: they offer you something better than everything out there and wait for the competition to catch-up, meanwhile developers take advantage of this. For instance have a look at the HTC Tilt(Kaiser), Touch Pro(Raphael) and Dream(G1)... old hardware running new software!

I really doubt the N9 will use N900's internals, so it will take a long time for developers to make a "perfect" port of MeeGo/Maemo6 to it ... or none at all. And this is really upsetting for current owners that feel (are) like they're treated as beta-testers at a premium price.

woops, thread derailed?
lets get back on topic and help our member!

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Did I just witness that WinMo6.x was more advanced than Maemo?

I would buy whatever you're drinking man.

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^^ haha lol +1

I've owned my iPaq 2215 for so long that even when I owned an iPhone 3G last year it was still being used. Before the iPhone I was using an imate Pocket PC (the Himalaya... the smartphone that started HTC just google it).

The imate was big, heavy, drained battery but man was that OS so flexible and bursted with features. If maemo was as well distributed and incubated as long as Windows Mobile (2003SE - 6.5) did, it would definently blow it out of the water. But I'm just stating what I know and think is factual, that is, WM6 is "currently" slightly more advanced than Maemo.

A detailed comparison between the two is just out of my power, so take it as you please (a grain of salt, or a viagra pill) choice is yours my friend.

On another note, lets say I had the option of choosing WM6 or Maemo5, I would choose Maemo5 because of the "potential" it has for me in the future; WM6 development is officially dead with WP7 release whereas Maemo5 still has some time before it's funeral!

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If by advanced you mean "halts the CPU completely whenever in standby so its next to useless as you can't run background tasks" and "strips a ton of functions out of .NET framework in the mobile version compared to desktop" then yes, Windows Mobile IS more advanced. But those are pretty huge disadvantages and EXACTLY why I switched from Windows Mobile to Maemo, as a modern high-end smartphone should not have such restrictions.

I loved Visual Studio, I think its an awesome development environment as it makes everything so easy, but I kept stumbling on stupid limitations imposed on the mobile APIs so I always hit a brick wall. Maemo however you have real portability, it has the SAME API as the desktop not a watered down version, so if you want to do something its easy to write it on desktop and know it will behave more or less the same on the N900.

Fact is, Maemo is Linux, its biggest restriction is battery life due to the simple fact you CAN use it exactly like desktop Linux. I prefer an OS that lets me do anything vs one that strips functionality I need "to save battery life" any day. Quite frankly, Windows Mobile was hugely limiting for me.

I really do not see however you look at it that you can call Windows Mobile more advanced an OS. Being able to send MMS out of the box is not an OS feature, its an application. The OS is the bare-bones, what the kernel can do and what you can make an application do on top of that OS without hacking. In that sense Maemo kicks everything out of the water, period.

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Whatever may be the version of update...but N900 is incomplete without 3G videocall!!!

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Gerbick stop it will you my belly hurts !.

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He did stop it - the comment was made 6 months ago.

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Hey, does anybody knows if PR 1.4 will have an update to make the N900 work as an MfE provisionable device?

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Get out.

There is no PR1.4. Never will be.

Use the search, or even bother to read the thread!!!

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There won't be 1.4 because there will be PR1.6. It will have so many improvements and features that it will skip 1.4 and 1.5. :D

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ensuring whats best for a autistic child with no life support who became infertile coz you kicked it in the balls.
"infertile? its not my fault! it was infertile long before i kicked it in the nuts! if only it had microsoft windows phone 7..."
bravo nokia.. bravo..