Thinking of giving up on n900, please give your opinion
 

I am seriously thinking on giving up on n900, Nokia is sending me back my broken N900 so I can send it to amazon and still get full refund. So the Question is should I buy the new one again, I am very scared for charger problem to pop up again, and what we will really get in 1.3 bc again is 400$ device!!!
I am considering Samsung Galaxy S, Sony Ericsson Vivaz pro, or even n97.

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Well, there is really really nothing you can compare to N900... Because N900 is a mobile-computer as said many other times by many other people, and the things you got in mind are just smartphones...
The decision is yours, and perhaps if you need a smartphone, they are really good choices... So is iPhone... And N900 would not be a good choice for you because it's much more than them and has things you don't need.

But in my opinion, stick with N900.

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I dont think that I can compare Iphone with N900, is totally two different things, I have used Iphone for so many times, and it is very impressive phone, but its not like n900.

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Sure, you should give up on it. It's a phone, not a spouse.

The n900 is what it is. If you're not loving it now, you're not very likely to love it some point in the future.

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I think the physical keyboard is certainly a n900 advantage from many other phone where you need to use the screen keyboard all the time... i got my missus a cheap android and the 3 things i cannot get use to are:
- screen keyboard
- application cannot be terminated and closed down
- and many apps seem to try to get your geolocation from your wifi when they could simply get it from the built-in gps or a-gps signal, this is serious google really needs to stop building this kind of personal information.

resuming, i kind of like android but would not buy one for myself for the main reasons above

Iphone's i like the clean look of them, the amount of apps and there seem to be lot of iphone jailbreaking going on (e.g. people running other os's, etc) but PAPA jobs gives me the impression that he wants to dominate the world with his fashion expensive gadgets by dictating what we can install/run or share with others, on devices that we consumers have payed for with our hard working money and for that reason alone PAPA jobs will never see my money, or my recommendation to others or for that matter my respect.
e.g. wanted to share something with the friend and the iphone would not allow us to blue-tooth the stuff across, what a pile of crap PAPA jobs devices are :)
PAPA jobs also seems to try to dictate what developers can do with their apps, and as we seen in recent times he catches that headlines to twists the facts and brainwash a few more consumers... just unbelievable.

About the N900, is just a personal mobile computer that you can carry in your pocket, which at times can be a pain in the back side, it also lacks some of the cool mobile apps or features on other hardware out there but offers lots of emulators and everything seems very much to be free. There seem to be a lot of ongoing projects that could potentially open up the N900 to be able to use other cool apps.

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trust me vivaz pro and n97 are realy crap.
i mean really totally epic crap.
worst phones ever.
if you come from n900 and go to n97 where you need to wait 5 minutes until the browser opens you will be really sad.
its your decision what you do with your phone.
but really DON'T buy a vivaz or n97!!!!

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Galaxy S is very good and excellent choice, if you want Android.

Stay away from Vivaz and N97 or any other S60 5th Edition phone. If you want Symbian phone, then get the N8 or wait for C6.

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I thought it was just another ranting post. It's good that you're seriously considering getting a new N900.

My N900 is working just fine, but from what I've read from this forum so far (an probably the replies that follow), people has pretty bad experience with the defective hardware.

My guess is that some of the order batches are having bad quality, and may be a newer one would be much better.

I'm not sure if it'd help, the following warranty checker would check whether given an IMEI the Nokia phone is still under warranty, and it's a good indicator of a new product, if you'd like to purchase a new one via Internet, probably it'd help: http://www.nokia.com.hk/support-en/r...y-verification

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I did not siad is a spouse, I like the phone and specialy OS but, what after a year of use, charching port goes bad again.

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Yeah I know Galaxy s is awsome phone, I would not buy n8 bc I will not have tangable keyboard (unless is android I will like some phone with real keyboard) But maybe at the end I will stick with N900 at the end that was my first choice.

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Since I have my N900, I dont need to take my notebook with me because there is already a mobile computer in my poket.
Yes, its not a perfekt phone, but actually no phone is perfekt.
When my N900 would die, I would buy a new one.
hth ;)

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If you are just worried about the charging problem, buy an external charger and a couple of spare batteries. Using that reduces the wear on your usb port to a tremendous amount and is more convenient in general.

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I love my N900, but I have been missing the SatNav (Ovi) capabilities of my old Nokia X6 so much of late that I bought a second-hand one and loaded SPB Mobile Shell to make a poor man's N8.

What a culture shock!

As others have highlighted above, Symbian 60 has huge limitations compared to N900, not least being a lack of speed.

That said, Mobile Shell does give the Old Gal a new lease of life and makes the UI hugely enjoyable to use - surprisingly snappy and easy to configure.

The biggest disappointments for me (aside from obvious things like lack of HW keyboard, speed and multitasking) was the return to a small screen size (same as N8 and E7...) and strange as it may sound, a lack of useable and distinctive apps.

Symbian has plenty of games, if that's your thing, and Gravity is pretty good for Social Networking, but Witter eclipses it and shows far more potential, even if it is only for Twitter.

In fact, the biggest thing(s) I'd miss from N900 are the Community-built apps that allow you to take full advantage of the hardware: like using the LED's as a torch by sliding the shutter open, using the cam. focus to snap between open apps, using AbiWord to finish an overdue letter, and BlessN900 to capture the sunset in full HDR detail.

I can't imagine life without these simple, but now essential apps.

N900 is not about Nokia any more; it's not about PR1.3 or even dual booting Meego. It's about what we CAN do RIGHT NOW.

This is a legendary, landmark device and sometimes we forget to enjoy the view from the hill we have climbed.

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You have a right to be scared about the charger issue... and I feel as if it's a mixed blessing to have a removable battery - yes, you can remove it, charge it that way (a plus) but you have to buy an external charger for it and you can't use your phone while it's charging (a negative).

I, for one, couldn't keep a phone that for periods of time per day - the battery life on the N900 is on the shorter end of the spectrum too - that I cannot answer nor make telephone calls. That's really unacceptable.

And that I have to go out and buy an external charger for my house, car, probably office or carry it around with me at all places and nobody's mentioned if there is any wear and tear on removing your battery latch/back part once/twice/thrice a day to charge a phone... seriously, that is as cumbersome of a workaround as you could get. Might as well get a different phone at that rate if that scares you.

I also have the Captivate, AT&T variant of the Samsung Galaxy S... it's a good phone; just not great. Missing the hardware keyboard, but feeling secure its microUSB, it also has a removable battery, but has only a virtual keyboard. Swype makes up for it not having a physical keyboard, quite a bit actually; but the N900 still wins in that aspect.

As the others in the thread have stated, your other phone choices leave plenty to be desired; read: avoid them.

Albeit a "legendary", "awesome", "best ever" device, the N900's microUSB problem is not easily overlooked and if you have concerns, I'd suggest looking elsewhere and obtain your refund if you can.

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This is trumped-up BS. You do have to pay about $10 for the charger. "You can't use the phone while you're charging" is just false if you buy a few batteries, as I suggested in the message you are responding to.

And why do you have to buy all those chargers and I don't? I find that one is plenty. Of course, paying another $10 or even $20 would be cheap.

As for the wear in opening the case, it's about as much of a problem as opening your refrigerator door. Actually, less.

I've been doing this with Nokia tablets for years without problems. How much experience do you have trying this solution? I suspect zero, judging from the objections you raised.

Re: Thinking of giving up on n900, please give your opinion
 

how many more of these idiotic threads will there be

every other day some new ***** asks the same stupid question

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The n900 sucks at anything other than looking at web pages and sending out text/chat messages.

Mobile computer my ***.

I'm jumping ship to WP7 and I've been suggesting everyone I know to do the same.

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at the end maybe Bada samsung

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Really? It works great for many "computer-ish" tasks that I use it for.

Indeed, nothing like jumping head first into Microsoft's version of iOS, complete with all the lock down it entails. Certainly, MS doesn't want you using a WP7 device as a mobile computer. You have fun in Microsoft's walled garden ;)

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The external charger and batteries thing is not a permanent solution as I found to my detriment. First it is very frustrating having to change batteries everyday. Some may not mind but I got really tired of it. More importantly what if the usb port finally dies? With the N900 it is almost certain you will need to reflash at some point. I was using the external charger and spare batteries for three months but then I bricked my device. If I was out of warranty I would have been left with a $625 brick.

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i got me a mugen 2400mah battery for my n900 my flat worries are over, can play on it 3 hours+ non stop still last all day down side its a bit fat and heavy but i am use to it now :)

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It is very fat and heavy, I would not dare to put that.

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not that meego and pr 1.3 are coming... get another one again....

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I would love that. New N900 for free :)
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i just ground off the sharp pegs on my micro usb. now theres no friction atall.

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haha yeps but its that vs getting flat in half a day what i found with the original even with tweaking it ......

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Comparing to the external charger of YOUR iPhone, which requires you to pre-charge the charger, and then plug the charger into your iPhone for actual charging. When you're on the move, YOUR iPhone chargers took TWICE as much time to charge a single freaking battery inside YOUR iPhone. And your external charger is cumbersome; a spare battery is light.

Good point!

What if your USB port of YOUR iPhone finally died? Can you swap your battery? You could continue to use N900 without USB for three months, all you can do with YOUR iPhone in the same situation is to send it back for repair.

If you've problem with the warranty, talk to Nokia, not here, provided that you actually OWNED a N900.

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You have a very confrontational stance which I do not know what is bringing this on. What is your problem?

And why are you talking about iphone? Did I say anything about iphone? I don't care how you get around the usb port issue on the iphone. Never owned an iphone and never will. And the OP was not considering getting an out of warranty iphone so you bringing the iphone into the equation was pointless and shows your fanboyism. In any event I have not heard of usb port becoming faulty as a common iphone problem.

As for your saying I talk to Nokia yes my N900 has been with Nokia over a month and it will be over another month before they get a replacement. But that is besides the point. My post was a warning to the OP. It was not about me. And why do I need to warn him? If you are out of warranty Nokia will not repair your usb port even if you want to pay for it to be repaired. If you brick the device that is the end. You are left with a very expensive brick. Be warned. I am sure other phone manufacturers would repair out of warranty phones.

Maybe if you did not have such fanboyism you would have understood the purpose of my post.

Re: Thinking of giving up on n900, please give your opinion
 

I like my N900, but Samsung Captive looks cool too. It was my second choice.

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Then what's your problem? In the beginning we've empathy to your issues with N900 but very soon we found that all you did was complaining and show no intention to fix what you're complaining of. You show up on every post to complain and repeat your problems which should have been solved, or people were trying to help you to solve months ago. What's your problem??

If you've never owned an iPhone please do not repeatedly compare N900 with iPhone. You're famous for your active N900 vs iPhone comparisons you know that?

What's YOUR usb problem has anything to do with OP's question? You're just sneaking every chance to repeat your problems that nobody want to care anymore.

It's very childish of you to call anyone who oppose to you fanboy. This IS N900 forum for God's sake. Most of us here is trying to help people solving problems with N900. If you're here just wasting time to deflect people from using N900, from considering N900 with false facts, then I've to say you're asking for humiliation.

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I can guarantee you I will get more use and enjoyment out of my WP7 phone than you will out of your n900.

For me, its the right choice. Certainly it has some lockdowns, but the additional services it offers that the n900 does not now, nor will ever have far outweigh any inconveniences any lockdowns will cause. I think the only thing I'll miss will be the multitasking. Then again, thats coming down the pipe soon for WP7 so I won't miss it long.

Finally, I won't be dealing with the subpar camera interface. I won't be stuck on the road wanting to get a song that isn't on my n900 with no easy way to get it. I won't be missing turns because Ovi maps sucks (can't tell you how many times this has happened).

Sure I won't be able to run apache off it, but that was only ever really a gimmick anyway.

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The biggest problem is usb drive.

It is like you are buying a brand new car, and cost you 40,000 dollars, and the seller tells you< O btw if one wheel fall off on the road we will replace whole car with a new one, but you will have to be one moth without your car. Or you can SPEND EXTRA and buy protection for that wheel so it would not fall off but the car is gonna be bit more heavier and bigger, like growing fetus on the side:)

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Trumped up yet you admit there's an extra charge... which was exactly what I said. It's an extra charge; what part of that is disputable?

I don't have to buy an external battery charger for any other phone in the last 10 years; but I need to buy one to avoid my microUSB from falling out on my N900?

It still costs extra. Denial will not bypass that fact.

My refrigerator was manufactured to be opened multiple times per day. The battery hatch on a device are typically not.

I bent the tabs on my N810 battery hatch once. Nokia was nice enough to replace that, I pulled my battery out much less after that.

It's not about my experience with your half assed "solution"... it's the simple fact you're in such denial that you've yet to admit that an external battery charger and extra battery(-ies) are an expense over and above the price of the N900 and shouldn't really exist if the damn thing (microUSB) was built right in the first place.

State that first, then I might listen to your "solution". Otherwise, you just added about another $100 to the purchase of an $500+ phone that still might fault out in under a year in regards to the microUSB port - gotta use it to update, move large files around... use the port as it was supposed to be used and not baby it like it might break... oh, because it might break.

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Well N900 is a great phone and dont feel its lacking anything really, but im a tech junkie and want to try something new.
Will give the Nokia E7 a try until a proper Meego phone is out.
Want the usb function to cut away my epson backup unit for the camera.
Also want the hdmi for presentations.
Even though S3 is a pretty inferior OS to the maemo one its functional and keeps battery time waaaay better then the N900 based on a pre production unit I had for a few days.
+creen is superb.
But the N900 is a love/hate phone... Mostly love though :)

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ask yourself way are you thinking that and what do you need from a new device? Cant see why you should upgrade already. wait for 2011. It will be a monster with meego, win7 and ny version of android plus ari jaaksi palm might create somthin nice.

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Makes me wonder. How long until we see a Nokia running MeeGo with some WebOS on top. Or HP running WebOS with MeeGo at its core.

MeeGo + WebOS = the new platform(s) for Nokia and HP? Would be kind of cool actually :)

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I love the Maemo OS but sometimes you can't beet Android's Google integration . . . I say . . . GET BOTH :D

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You specifically said you can't use your phone while charging. I specifically said that you CAN use your phone while charging.

My solution divides the number of times you typically use the USB port by let's say two hundred. Do you suppose that affects the amount of wear on the USB port?

You want me to "admit" that buying a charger costs money (which is obvious, and I already said the charger costs less than $10) and yet you don't specifically admit that you have zero experience with my solution. You mention a problem you had that I never encountered with the four Nokia tablets I've used external chargers extensively with.

Using an external charger is better than not EVEN IF THERE WAS NO USB PORT PROBLEM. When I started doing this with my N800 the USB problem didn't exist. I am using a similar solution with a non-Nokia phone as well. (A Palm Centro.)

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hahaha . . . Windows phones really . . . I would rather have a freaking black berry . . . windows phones SUCK like really bad . . . I have a friend of mind who had the HD2 (A beatiful phone hardware wise) . . . and she hated it . . . If your not sticking with Maemo . . . Android or iPhone are the way to go

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Given your scenario... you've removed the battery and you're charging it on a desktop.

How do you use it? Oh.... you have to have an extra battery. Now... while changing batteries, I miss a call. How do I avoid that?

Oh... I don't. Which part of "when you change and/or remove batteries you might miss a call" do you find impossible to believe?

Delays the inevitable. If it happens now or later. Read that long *** thread about people that's been ultra careful, shaved the microUSB charger prongs and see how many still have probs. Hell, I'm counting down to when mine will have a problem - and avoiding using it until I absolutely have to.

Don't forget to add in the price of that official Nokia battery too. There's no need to experience a damn thing to know that buying an extra battery and an external battery charger costs money.

Which part of that escapes you?

That's how you've decided to use and charge your battery. Kudos.

We're not all like you. Ever thought that? I didn't buy an external charger for my N810. And since Nokia is the one that manufactured the N900 with a faulty as hell microUSB drive; they should give the external battery charger and extra battery for free.

Simply put, you've yet to admit the full, honest truth son. When you buy an official charger, an official battery... what's the cost?

Here's a hint: it's extra.